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post Apr 24 2008, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(tictac @ Apr 24 2008, 12:58 AM)
wah... now got new thread already. Congrats.

Very nice database you got there. Thank you for your great afford..  notworthy.gif

I no longer active as overclocker, tweaker or bios modders. I had other job i have to concentrate in. I hope you guys enjoy overclocking and help each other out solving any problem you encounter. Be the best in the world. Good Luck

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Apr 24 2008, 01:01 AM)
When is yours coming? Waiting for u to get 9850 together.  tongue.gif
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a come back from u bro? make sure it's gonna be a huge one. brows.gif

QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 24 2008, 08:31 AM)
it's V8 edi..but still no news bout B3..haih.. unsure.gif
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patience is d key bro... d quaddies from intel atm ain't a must get item neway (from what i heard). whistling.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Apr 24 2008, 12:48 PM)
i don't recal X3 got B3.. isit for high line only?

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any 8x50 series is b3 phenom x3. smile.gif

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post Apr 26 2008, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Apr 26 2008, 01:54 PM)
hmm, price of tri and quad so close sweat.gif I rather go Quad tongue.gif...But then Quad and Tri cores's OC capability not that good right?
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b3 tri core VS b2 quad core, i'll take d tri core at anytime bro... wink.gif
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post Apr 27 2008, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 26 2008, 03:42 PM)
btw i saw one website doing a stable 3.0ghz on a phenom tri-core.. quite good i must say rclxms.gif ..
now waiting for amd to roll out an extremely ocable cpu like intel


Added on April 26, 2008, 8:06 pmjust now i tried again my amd..hmm quite satiesfied because passed 3200Mhz boundary  rclxm9.gif
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nice clock there mate, mite as well lower down d ram multi & aim for ram cpu clock 1st... smile.gif
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post Apr 29 2008, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 29 2008, 12:49 PM)
found summthing just now..
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ur runnin it @ stock speed w/ that kinda voltage bro? shocking.gif

btw, can do me a favor by listin d cpu score for 3dmark 06 @ 3.0GHz? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 29 2008, 02:17 PM)
Than better wait for the new SB700 chip mobo...
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rumor says d new 790fx boards will be equipped w/ SB750, but that was from fudzilla, most of their news are not so trustable. smile.gif


@ bro habuk

can try to run it @ 3.0GHz? lite oc can't see d diff leh... tongue.gif


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post Apr 29 2008, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 29 2008, 03:19 PM)
cannot reach 3.0 for now.. rclxub.gif
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bro, d x3 is sp 32m stable but not able to complete 3d mark 06 @ 3.0GHz? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(digswell @ Apr 30 2008, 11:54 AM)
Haha  brows.gif wan to sell ur X3 ?? bro plz wait and see 1st...from now only 9850BE is the best choice.
wait and see other model come out 1st ..i mean 65nm with lower then 125W proc (maybe 95wor 65w)
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d current batch of 9850be is 125w rite? so it mite not be d best choice since d heat dissipation is quite high at stock speed. d later batch of 95w could be a better choice but again nothing new, one gotta wait. i'll be contented enuf if i own a phenom 9750... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 30 2008, 11:55 AM)
= =.Yeap thats it,actually before you sold off your AM2 Processor you should update your bios to latest.So the next time u install Phenom,you shouldnt have any probs.If want 65W Phenom processor grab a 9150E 1.8Ghz but consume 65W = =.I wonder how the Overclock ability.But i suggest you guys wait for Deneb  whistling.gif

AMD's Upcoming CPU Architecture Will Be Built from Scratch
- No Phenom influence, and especially, no TLB bugs


AMD's upcoming CPU micro-architecture will be built from the ground up, or at least that is what the company claimed yesterday. According to the chip manufacturer's executives, the next generation of processors will be radically different from the existing Phenom chips and will pack extra features.

The AMD64 micro-architecture was one of AMD's biggest cash cows since its introduction in 2003 and has been successfully recycled in the latest K10 core used in the Phenom chips (except for the refurbished cache system). However, the increased computing demands in modern applications and Intel's pressure on the CPU market forced AMD to come up with new and viable technologies.

"If I look at the next generation architecture of our CPU, then it will definitely not be, how can I say, comparable with the Phenom. It will look completely different", claimed AMD’s technical director of sales and marketing for EMEA, Giuseppe Amato in an interview for tech website Custom PC. Although there are no other details about what's cooking in AMD's laboratories, Amato stated that it would "solve problems that today we think can never be addressed by hardware."

The previous AMD64 micro-architecture came with a plethora of new features, including 64-bit support and an integrated memory controller. In fact, the first AMD64-based chips torn Intel's domination on the CPU market and gave Intel’s NetBurst architecture an extremely rough time. AMD's chips surpassed the Pentium 4 counterparts in public benchmarks and brought the company a significant market share.

However, those days are long gone. Despite the fact that the new Phenom processors are based on the same micro-architecture, they can't keep up with Intel’s Core 2 Quad counterparts. AMD was forced to lower the prices, and high-end quad-core Phenoms are now selling for the same price as Intel's entry-level quads.

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Sorry bro pWs for off topic.So what u guys thinks,Alot AMD Executive edy resign and they rebuilding their architecture from scratch.You guys think its good future for Deneb? sweat.gif
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as long as d r&d department can deliver, i wouldn't mind even d amd runs w/o any executive. tongue.gif

QUOTE(joe_star @ Apr 30 2008, 12:32 PM)
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Apr 30 2008, 01:53 PM)
i just want to know whether my psu can cope or not while ocking phenom..
the wattage haunt me bad..
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i wouldn't overclock a quad core phenom with a 400w psu if u ask me mate. smile.gif
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 30 2008, 04:05 PM)
what bout 500w can arrr...
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depend on d +12V rating bro. if there's a single fat rail, i think should be sufficient provided no power hunger gfx in use. smile.gif

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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 30 2008, 04:22 PM)
ic..ic..bro ah_khoo new b3 phenom have hit singapore market or not...
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not yet leh... so slow... doh.gif

wah... how can i tahan until june... even lyp is sellin those b3 ledi... drool.gif lust.gif icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 1 2008, 06:47 PM)
ya lorr..simple tweaking enough lor..but summore using DFI mobo make u learn fast..laugh.gif u may not see some advance feature in other mobo..

BTW..Its not that i don't want to stress it yet..it just i'm still confused bout the buggy thing in 3dmark06..
but today i kind of getting it.. rclxms.gif 

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cpu score @ 3.4k on 3d mark 06, that's superb for an amd chip!!! keep up d gud work bro... thumbup.gif

it could be nicer if u can bring down d vcore abit. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 4 2008, 10:36 PM)
asus? blink.gif  nahhh....dont bother asus...not well paired with AMD...

get DFI, Abit or Biostar.....sure rock... brows.gif
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gotta agree w/ u bro, Asus makes better boards for Intel. smile.gif

QUOTE(sempronic @ May 4 2008, 10:48 PM)
i think that just the temp reading prob....try use core temp.....any higher clock u try???

and yes AMD is better in memory controller like our friend said.....coz try with intel...it cant stable OC my Ballistix as what my AMD did.. sweat.gif
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usually ram clock higher in intel platform bro (from my experience), d mem controller (chipset) has higher latency iirc... wink.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 4 2008, 11:35 PM)
Becos the Intel Memory is not integrated together with the processor but Intel uses their "Chipset" as the memory controller,While AMD Memory Controller is already integrated on the proc itself.But if AMD is better,why our proc(AMD) cant get Sub 20 Secs(Super PI 1M)?Is it causes by the CACHE?
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 5 2008, 01:44 AM)
Ram can be oc higher in Intel platform. wink.gif
Architecture is the main reason.  whistling.gif

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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 5 2008, 09:33 AM)
let me guess..9850 BE??
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wrong... how can a ta690g supports 9850be whistling.gif


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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 5 2008, 10:00 AM)
Hmm..no doubt its X3 proc? sweat.gif
TA690G..wonder what proc u changing doh.gif
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still on f3, but gonna be gfx less since i got no pci-e card at d moment, gotta use my secret weapon ledi... d sis 8MB pci display card... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 5 2008, 12:15 PM)
ok what...as long as it can give a display..heheh...i also used once...when im suffering to get 8800 series back in the old days where the price is a bomb..
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any chance for u to sponsor a x3 to be tested on this upcomin mobo? tongue.gif

gotta use d pci card for a while since d mobo cost me an arm & leg this month(this month is a veli difficult month)... sad.gif
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QUOTE(adeas @ May 5 2008, 05:35 PM)
hello guys..im not an overclocker
but i need to ask this
why my cpu temp quite high eventhough im not overclock yet
idle temp is around 50c...using x2 5000 black edition with triton asus heat sink with fan
is it black edition all like that?sorry if similar question like this appear again
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which monitorin software u use? g2 chip got spoilt dts (digital thermal sensor if i'm not mistaken tongue.gif )... smile.gif
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QUOTE(adeas @ May 5 2008, 05:58 PM)
ohh really?i tot the same too....i use lot of monitoring software...core temp,pc wizards 2008,abiteq also in bios
all the same...where did dts located?on mobo or cpu?
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sumthg is wrong if all sw showin d same temp. u mite need to consider to reapply d thermal pate & reseat d hsf. smile.gif
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QUOTE(adeas @ May 6 2008, 01:36 AM)
thermal paste applied,all done but still temp higher
huhu..any other idea?flash bios?
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hmm... pls provide d details of ya rig bro... btw, dts is located on d chip itself. smile.gif

QUOTE(sempronic @ May 6 2008, 08:18 AM)
give more detail plz...if not how can we help u?
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