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 Stock Market V12, Stock Market talk, some are investors, some are gamblers..

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post Apr 22 2008, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 11:31 PM)
but their trade vol is low ..
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Hi,

I prefer ornasteel and kinsteel .


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post Apr 22 2008, 10:36 PM

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masteel good fundamentals...didn't run much yet...one for the future...
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post Apr 22 2008, 10:51 PM

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guys,

no body eying on MRCB?? what u guys thinks about this? what is the next resistance level? ..
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post Apr 22 2008, 10:59 PM

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i did ....plan to buy yesterday but i was abit afraid....anyway no more news about this counter
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goreng list for tomorrow.. brows.gif brows.gif

engtex , borneoil-wb, jaks flex.gif flex.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 22 2008, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 22 2008, 11:06 PM)
goreng list for tomorrow..  brows.gif  brows.gif

engtex , borneoil-wb, jaks  flex.gif  flex.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Jongkolkhoo also well-planned ahead tongue.gif
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Hi guys,


Sure goreng or not? This time i shall play a bit in order to master goreng skills.


Thank You.
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post Apr 22 2008, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 22 2008, 11:06 PM)
goreng list for tomorrow..  brows.gif  brows.gif

engtex , borneoil-wb, jaks  flex.gif  flex.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Goreng for me tomorrow by lunch time.
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post Apr 22 2008, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 11:10 PM)
Goreng for me tomorrow by lunch time.
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what a joke laugh.gif I was curious what you wanted to get, sekali tengok....!
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 22 2008, 10:08 PM)
Jongkolkhoo also well-planned ahead tongue.gif
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actually the list is longer and i got a feeling that i am not alone.. icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

alivecmh where are you??? saw you in tailou.
i also wan ah yat ablone. today's killing not reach 0.5k

i also going to using stop profit or what ever you call it on my thplant (fluke buy at 3.36 many months ago) ... too bad only got 10 lots rclxms.gif ( thanks cherroy)
a very good strategy which i would not have known without this forum/moderator. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

but i would have to monitor the share every minute..
any way to still use this method and don't need to monitor the market every minute?
tomorrow got meeting with all branch manager. I cannot put laptop infront of all my branch manager. later my bigger boss also angry with me.
how?

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post Apr 22 2008, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 22 2008, 11:19 PM)
actually the list is longer and i got a feeling that i am not alone..  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif

alivecmh where are you??? saw you in tailou.
i also wan ah yat ablone. today's killing not reach 0.5k

i also going to using stop profit  or what ever you call it on my thplant (fluke buy at 3.36 many months ago) ... too bad only got 10 lots  rclxms.gif  ( thanks cherroy)
a very good strategy which i would not have known without this forum/moderator.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

but i would have to monitor the share every minute..
any way to still use this method and don't need to monitor the market every minute?
tomorrow got meeting with all branch manager. I cannot put laptop infront of all my branch manager. later my bigger boss also angry with me.
how?
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If you have to monitor shares on hourly , then actually you are working for Bursa.

Later part, you start to think Bursa pays you peanut to monitor their shares.

If you have good fundamental shares, it helps you to sleep better bcos it is boring. But the rewards would be better in long term.

Share investment is about patient, and more patient.

Just my 2 sen opinion.

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post Apr 22 2008, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 23 2008, 12:19 AM)
actually the list is longer and i got a feeling that i am not alone..  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif

alivecmh where are you??? saw you in tailou.
i also wan ah yat ablone. today's killing not reach 0.5k

i also going to using stop profit  or what ever you call it on my thplant (fluke buy at 3.36 many months ago) ... too bad only got 10 lots  rclxms.gif  ( thanks cherroy)
a very good strategy which i would not have known without this forum/moderator.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

but i would have to monitor the share every minute..
any way to still use this method and don't need to monitor the market every minute?
tomorrow got meeting with all branch manager. I cannot put laptop infront of all my branch manager. later my bigger boss also angry with me.
how?
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Hi All,

I think jongkolkhoo is going to buy huge numbers of unit of shares tommorrow morning based of his findings. It's up to us whether to join in or not. I got a feeling that the shares he mentioned would probably UP ! UP ! UP ! tommorrow. Let's wait and find it out the next day.

I wish you luck and all the best. As i got the same attitude also. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Best of luck rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(DJWC @ Apr 22 2008, 10:37 PM)
Hi All,

I think jongkolkhoo is going to buy huge numbers of unit of shares tommorrow morning based of his findings. It's up to us whether to join in or not. I got a feeling that the shares he mentioned would probably UP ! UP ! UP !  tommorrow.  Let's wait and find it out the next day.

I wish you luck and all the best. As i got the same attitude also.   icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

Best of luck    rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif       biggrin.gif
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Don't follow me. i play play only.. i am the small fish. this time gua buy small small only . holland don't blame me.
tomorrow looks more like down . today go mamak eat roti pisang no goreng stuff so plan to eat goreng tomorrow.
i never buy huge. i buy small small nia.


Added on April 22, 2008, 11:58 pm
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:30 PM)
If you have to monitor shares on hourly , then actually you are working for Bursa.

Later part, you start to think Bursa pays you peanut to monitor their shares.

If you have good fundamental shares, it helps you to sleep better bcos it is boring. But the rewards would be better in long term.

Share investment is about patient, and more patient.

Just my 2 sen opinion.
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thanks sky for your advice. it's more for the fun plus little profit .For rewards , i trust my business. (i doing legal tai yee long paying taxes. Got finance licence here). long time never hear from you. wink.gif wink.gif

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post Apr 23 2008, 06:45 AM

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goreng list for tomorrow..  brows.gif  brows.gif

engtex , borneoil-wb, jaks  flex.gif  flex.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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so, US DJ down by 104 points ... still high chance in those counter u mentioned? .. how about MRCB or O&G? ..
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Investors are taking profit after last week's rally. Waiting for MSFT earnings and guidance.. Yahoo might have to accept MSFT's offer.
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how about malaysia pipe project? .. is KPS get it? .. any news on this?
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post Apr 23 2008, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 09:51 PM)
Future price is not RM0.16.

If the final share price of the stock before it carries out the proposal is RM0.25, it will become around RM0.78 on the first day listing. But your 44 lots become 14.08 lots only.

But with the news of massive capital reduction come out, tomorrow its share price will under some pressure.
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So, should I assumed that it only convert from low price to high but still maintain the total money that I've invest before(14.08x0.78 equivalent to 44*0.25)? In theories, I'm not losing anything right? And I need a suggestion, if you face the same thing, what will you do? Stay or sell? or there's something else to do?

Tq Sir

P/s: Luckily this thread has so many expertise and veteran to help a beginner like me .. notworthy.gif .

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post Apr 23 2008, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 09:57 PM)
Still a question I keep wondering why Huaan want to list in Malaysia? considered that it is not a Malaysia based company nor having interest or business in Malaysia. Got some relationship with Antah? N.S. royal family owned.
Also, consider that it can list in China or HK which easily can chalk up higher price at IPO there.  hmm.gif

No doubt based on its financial result, it looks good.
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Huaan's plants start to operate in mid 2004, but listed ( took over fr Antah ) in Mrach 2007.

I believe it is not easy to list directly in HK or China if their operations are less than 3 years.

It is relatively unknown in Malaysia either ( not discovered by others yet ), and most people want to wait and see first,
like the Sapcres case.

Risks

Change in political, economic and regulatory in China could materially
and adversely affect Huaan's business operation. Notwithstanding, Huaan
will continue to focus on its core business and evaluate new business
opportunities that arise. The Group will also seek to minimize its business
risks through inter-alia careful contractual terms, adopting prudent credit
policy and regularly monitors its cash flow.

Reliance on the steel industry in China. The largest market for Huaan's
metallurgical coke is the steel industry in China. Growth in production of
metallurgical coke augurs well with the China's economy because of
potential strong steel demand which is used across various key industries.
Any decline in th e demand for steel may affect the demand for Huaan's
products. Nevertheless, China's economy is expected to grow resiliently at
8% annually.

Competition. Huaan is operating in a competitive coking industry and its
competitors include independent coke suppliers, coking plants set-up by
steel manufacturers and coking plants set-up by coal mining companies.
Huaan's strategy is to constantly meet and improve on fulfilling customers'
needs and requirements. Additionally, Huaan is operating in close proximity
to coal suppliers and major steel manufacturers, thus, yielding efficient
stock availability and distribution channels which is an added advantage.

Investment Case

Coke production is highly reflected by future dynamism of the steel
market. China's metallurgical coke industry is likely to correlate with the
steel industry which bodes well with Huaan's business operation. The
demand for steel in China is expe cted to continue to increase (Growth
drivers: Rapid urbanization projects, Summer Olympic 2008, Shanghai
Expo 2010 and the 3 Gorges Dam) and therefore, we expect Huaan's
production to be easily absorbed by the market.

The only listed company with operations entirely in China. Huaan's
business operation is insulated from any deceleration of the economy or
slowdown in the property and construction industry in Malaysia. On the
other hand of Huaan's target market, China offers bigger and more
promising market potential with stronger GDP growth momentum expected
at an average rate 8.5% from 2006 to 2010 and 8% from 2011 to 2015.

Earnings growth of 27% CAGR to be underpinned by a 50% increase
in production capacity from 1.2m MT to 1.8m MT p.a by FY09. Further
margin improvements can be expected as production efficiency improves
with economies of scale and savings in cost.




My type of investment method is different from yours. I do not look for heavy weight blue chips.

Instead I look for cheap light weight chips with low PEs, but track records might not be good compared to your blue chips.

Normally, if i buy , i prefer to buy 10,000 shares to make the real impact to justify my research. 1 or 2 lots would not be justified my time for it, I have a normal job to take care too.

Just for sharing. Not asking anyone to buy.

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 23 2008, 08:36 AM)
So, should I assumed that it only convert from low price to high but still maintain the total money that I've invest before(14.08x0.78 equivalent to 44*0.25)? In theories, I'm not losing anything right? And I need a suggestion, if you face the same thing, what will you do? Stay or sell? or there's something else to do?

Tq Sir

P/s: Luckily this thread has so many expertise and veteran to help a beginner like me ..  notworthy.gif .
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from my point of view, you are losing because the price you bought was 0.40++ right and the current price is 0.25 ..

about the vol u have, it is count the current price. that mean, it is same between 14.08 lots at 0.78 and 44 lots at 0.25. The decision is in your hand! .. smile.gif ..
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 23 2008, 08:36 AM)
So, should I assumed that it only convert from low price to high but still maintain the total money that I've invest before(14.08x0.78 equivalent to 44*0.25)? In theories, I'm not losing anything right? And I need a suggestion, if you face the same thing, what will you do? Stay or sell? or there's something else to do?

Tq Sir

P/s: Luckily this thread has so many expertise and veteran to help a beginner like me ..  notworthy.gif .
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This is assume that the price doesn't drop prior and after the capital reduction, but reality, in general market doesn't accept well with capital reduction restructuring. So price might fall.

Don't mean to suggest anything (buy or sell).

So judge your own.

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