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TStoccatina
post Apr 21 2008, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 21 2008, 06:19 PM)
i know a violin teacher where a lot of his students can hit grade 8 within 3 years. notworthy.gif

it depends how hardworking you are. if you already know piano, hitting grade 6 ain't no problem. smile.gif
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that really lighten me up! laugh.gif

maybe I take violin first, continue piano after that.

if time allows me so, both at the same time.

I wanna ask, violin only plays treble only?


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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Apr 21 2008, 06:21 PM)
I guess it all depends on how fast can you absorb, if you can utilise what u remember, all u need to do is train the technical skills...

Playing music aint cheap anymore unless you are talking about the guitar and the harmonica..  biggrin.gif
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I don't have any friend which plays violin!

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post Apr 21 2008, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 21 2008, 06:23 PM)
that really lighten me up!  laugh.gif

maybe I take violin first, continue piano after that.

if time allows me so, both at the same time.

I wanna ask, violin only plays treble only?
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of course, you can always take the challenge to go for both instruments. laugh.gif

violin only read treble clefs, not like piano have to read 2 lines (some times 3 lines!). rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 21 2008, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 21 2008, 06:25 PM)
of course, you can always take the challenge to go for both instruments. laugh.gif

violin only read treble clefs, not like piano have to read 2 lines (some times 3 lines!). rclxm9.gif
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I think that should not be a problem for me? I think the only problem for me is to learn how to actually play it. Hahaha. I see many people after graduating grade 8 piano then move on to violin. But no more news after that. laugh.gif

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post Apr 21 2008, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 21 2008, 06:27 PM)
I think that should not be a problem for me? I think the only problem for me is to learn how to actually play it. Hahaha. I see many people after graduating grade 8 piano then move on to violin. But no more news after that.  laugh.gif
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that's why you need pas si on. icon_rolleyes.gif

you can try a few lessons first and decide if you really love the instruments. most importantly, somebody who can inspire you (normally it's also the job of the teacher). laugh.gif
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post Apr 21 2008, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 21 2008, 06:27 PM)
I think that should not be a problem for me? I think the only problem for me is to learn how to actually play it. Hahaha. I see many people after graduating grade 8 piano then move on to violin. But no more news after that.  laugh.gif
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i beg to differ, reading is one thing, playing instrument like violin will develop their own frustration, although u do not need to play so much more notes, problem inherent to these instrument is the difficulty in producing a good tone which is usual for all beginners.

That would probably be good enough to deter u from continuing at one point of time..
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post Apr 21 2008, 06:39 PM

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I'm thinking of starting from scratch. Start all over again. Anybody been to YAMAHA music center at PJ area? They teach musi there too? must be very expensive too huh.

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post Apr 21 2008, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 21 2008, 05:58 PM)
but I only have 3 years, how far can I go with violin?

i do have my passion towards this job. I'm just widen my choices only, maybe.. for backups? LOL
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if you only learn 3 years and become teacher, u are not experince enough to be a teacher. eventhou you have passion, BASED ON MY OPINION, a good teacher must at least have a degree or above to teach a student about true form of music. even without a degree, the teacher must have experince many great deal of music, music history, dynamic, technical works, understanding of music, and ultimately, educated the student to understnad the beauty of music at a very young age.

thinking of being a teacher as a backup job is not good. u will just ruin the student's future.

just put urself as a student, 1 day u start learning the violin, and a teacher who only learn violin for 3 years since 23 years old and is only grade 6 already teaching violin, how will you feel? you feel that the teacher is not good enough, the teacher is just doing this for the money.

sorry to blow ur bubble, but, learning the violin/piano as a hobby thumbup.gif
being a teacher shakehead.gif
QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 21 2008, 06:17 PM)
how far can i go with 3 years to spend with violin?

I can continue it when i move back to KL after degree.

but the fees are so much more expensive than it used to be!

totally blood sucking!
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if u are determined enough and spend 3 hours a day on the violin, u can hit grd 6 in 3 years.( i pracitse the piano a minimum of 3 hours a day).
the fees are expensive if u want a good teacher. but u can get a rm50/month teacher who has no good experince in teaching and has a poor knowlegdge of music.

nothnig good comes cheap
nothing cheap comes good.
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post Apr 21 2008, 10:50 PM

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Wow after reading all your replies I notice that I am very slow, 1 year 1 grade doh.gif

Last time my violin teacher told me that to be a good violinist, you have to be a good pianist.

My violin teacher do not have piano background, and now her violin is up to performance level (I don't know her grade tongue.gif ) But she told me that she could not proceed further, and she starts to take piano lessons blink.gif

Is this true?
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post Apr 22 2008, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Momotaro Kun @ Apr 21 2008, 10:50 PM)
Wow after reading all your replies I notice that I am very slow, 1 year 1 grade  doh.gif

Last time my violin teacher told me that to be a good violinist, you have to be a good pianist.

My violin teacher do not have piano background, and now her violin is up to performance level (I don't know her grade  tongue.gif ) But she told me that she could not proceed further, and she starts to take piano lessons  blink.gif

Is this true?
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1 year 1 grade is normal speed loh. because I dun wanna waste too much $$$. so i do fast fast.

so which utar campus are u in?
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post Apr 22 2008, 12:45 AM

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laugh.gif lolz.. i am in same situation as you
but mine is chinese instrument vs violin.. haha

decided to take them both during next sem if my allowance enough laugh.gif
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post Apr 22 2008, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(anderyna @ Apr 22 2008, 12:45 AM)
laugh.gif lolz.. i am in same situation as you
but mine is chinese instrument vs violin.. haha

decided to take them both during next sem if my allowance enough laugh.gif
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which uni are you in? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 22 2008, 01:15 AM

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i was from UTAR FICT PJ Campus as well..
but then i transfer to Help edi... too bad sad.gif
how is PJ campus now? blush.gif

i started guitar at 1st...
then i found out that i was too lazy to learn n memorize the chords...
so i learn thru songs oni..
u play wateva songs i like by the tab...

then, i picked up drums...
and i like it...

now, planning to pick up guitar again n oso bass...
kinda interested in violin, but cant afford to learn so many at one shot lar...

btw i'm 20... would it be too old to start? tongue.gif
really feel regret for not started at the young age...
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post Apr 22 2008, 01:37 AM

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Ah I'm at UTAR FICT PJ campus!
PJ campus still remain the same, wont upgrade anymore because all will move to Kampar already but FICT will remain at PJ campus until I graduate laugh.gif

I think age 20 wont be too late, when finish grade 8 at most is 30 years old laugh.gif still can teach part time and earn

But if you play for your own interest, then any age would not be a problem!

By the way, saru means monkey? XD

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post Apr 22 2008, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(Momotaro Kun @ Apr 22 2008, 01:37 AM)
Ah I'm at UTAR FICT PJ campus!
PJ campus still remain the same, wont upgrade anymore because all will move to Kampar already but FICT will remain at PJ campus until I graduate laugh.gif
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same campus! tomolo I have programming paper! you're in degree already?

i assume you are local? learning musical instruments in pj is very expensive. mind to share where are u learning it right now?

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post Apr 22 2008, 01:46 AM

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Tomorrow I cuti laugh.gif
I Wednesday and Thursday continue exam rclxub.gif
Have test still forum haha I love programming laugh.gif
I'm currently in Year 2 Sem 1 degree in Computer Science
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post Apr 22 2008, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(Momotaro Kun @ Apr 22 2008, 01:46 AM)
Tomorrow I cuti laugh.gif
I Wednesday and Thursday continue exam rclxub.gif
Have test still forum haha I love programming laugh.gif
I'm currently in Year 2 Sem 1 degree in Computer Science
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i'm i foundation, my c++ is dying.
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post Apr 22 2008, 01:53 AM

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Nothing much they can ask, just remember always start with int main ()
And read some if.. else statements as well as looping as far as I remember blink.gif
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post Apr 22 2008, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(Momotaro Kun @ Apr 22 2008, 01:53 AM)
Nothing much they can ask, just remember always start with int main ()
And read some if.. else statements as well as looping as far as I remember  blink.gif
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die lo die lo
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post Apr 22 2008, 03:31 AM

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oh.. good luck for u toccatina...

still rmb last time in UTAR, after class, we always go to the futsal centre near Skynet play futsal... lolx...
one thing for sure, utar staff sux to the max!!!!
especially the gals from DSA...
everyday oso show the father-passed-away face... lolx...

actually, c++ is not that hard if u understand it...
this was how i scored A in it... lolx...
some ppl juz try to memorize... it's useless...

i'm juz sucked in the circuit thingie.. thatz y i gave up on computer engineering.. haha..

and yeah, saru meanz monkey in japanese...

oh gosh... my post is totally off topic.. haha..

ok letz get back to the topic...
there is a Yamaha music school in Kelana Jaya...
i'm not sure abt the fees there...

u can always drop by n check it out...
TGS is offering music courses as well... which i think will be slightly cheaper than yamaha...

or u can always find a private tutor wut that come to ur house n teach...
i think it's much cheaper than goin to music schools...

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QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 22 2008, 01:03 AM)
which uni are you in? biggrin.gif
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I am in KL TARC. laugh.gif
Guess they are not moving the college to kampar oso i guess hmm.gif

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