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TStoccatina
post Apr 21 2008, 04:57 AM, updated 18y ago

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I stopped piano for several years already. My first and last exam is Grade 4, piano ABRSM. And I got a distinction for both theory and practical. And the examiner wrote on the paper that I had "a stylish performance"! I was so happy! Well, I had a fight with my mum, so she stopped my piano lessons. I took only 1 year to finish grade 1 to 4. But actually I already finish learning grade 5 theory, just didn't take the exam.. I start during form 1 and stop during form 2. And now I am in University. So, you can see the large gap and I really forgot most of the scales, major, minor, dunno what etc. etc. etc.

I really do wish to continue, but due to the large gap in between, I kinda lose confidence now. And I heard only people who have grade 5 cert only can continue grade 6,7,and 8.

And KL fees is so expensive! The fees is so so so much more expensive compared to my kampung. I just moved up here recently.

I am starting my degree on May and moving to Kampar. I will be spending my time there for 3 years. So now I am thinking of picking up an intrument again.

The reason is, Kampar is boring, so I need some "entertainment". LOL but I dunno I can juggle in between degree course and music. And I am thinking of taking violin instead. because violin is small and mobile. And because I am studying outstation, there's no way I can have a piano in Kampar.

So guys, should I just buy a cheap keyboard and continue piano or take a new one like violin? Is violin easier than piano? I still can play the piano, my weakness in piano is my sight reading is very bad. I tend to hafal the way the teacher's hands movement instead of really reading the notes. I know, it's a bad habit but I really do like classical musics.

Please give me some advice please?

Or maybe I should just take guitar? Another reason why I take violin or piano is because maybe I can be a piano teacher if I can't find a good job with my Business Information System Degree cert? Maybe I think too much.

Please Help Me! cry.gif

This post has been edited by toccatina: Apr 21 2008, 07:00 AM
Momotaro Kun
post Apr 21 2008, 05:39 AM

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Wow 1 year to finish from grade 1 to 4! ohmy.gif
It took me 4 years to accomplish that doh.gif

I think that you should continue your Piano but since your new place don't have a Piano I think should reconsider. Because grade 5 exam is very important (I'm gonna have one this year).
If you practice using a keyboard at home, then when it comes to exam your fingers would not adjust to the touch of the upright piano.

I am taking violin lessons too. I personally think Violin is easier to play compared to Piano in terms of sight reading, because Violin only uses one staff and most of them are single notes.
But the technical works in Violin is way harder than Piano as you can easily play if off-tune and hit the wrong string.
Also, Violin is SO NOISY! If you have housemates they might get annoyed when you practise XD

Maybe guitar will suit you the most tongue.gif
Since you like classical music, you can go for classical guitar thumbup.gif
Its fun and sight reading isn't that hard either once you get used to chords.
Also you can strum and sing a long a few songs if you are bored there.
But do note that the tip your fingers will get a little rough once you start playing guitar laugh.gif you might want to consider that as well

Off Topic: are you studying at UTAR? blink.gif
TStoccatina
post Apr 21 2008, 06:14 AM

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QUOTE(Momotaro Kun @ Apr 21 2008, 05:39 AM)
Off Topic: are you studying at UTAR?  blink.gif
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OBVIOUSLY!!!


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:23 amhey, you MUST have grade 5 then only can take Grade 6, 7 & 8?

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jikolo
post Apr 21 2008, 10:25 AM

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im in university too. back when im young. i learnt piano, till grade 4 i think. then, stop coz moved.

then last year, i started pick up instrument again. i start with guitar. well, i like it, but, just tat, its not the tone tat im looking for. then i tried violin. and thats the tone tat im looking for. now learning violin. its quite easy in term of technique... just need to practise more. well... now tat im learning 2 instument at the same time.

guitar more of like... play with fren kindda thing and violin... well so far no body knows im learning even my housemate also dunno thanks to the mute and my good sound isolating room.

perhaps u can also learn both at the same time like me
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post Apr 21 2008, 12:16 PM

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I personally think it all depends on you, whether your passion lies with the piano or violin..

If you are really interested in violin, maybe u can consider getting a cheaper china made one to try out, there is one in the garage sales rite now.. Go take a look..

Also, maybe it ll make life less complicated for you, more mobility, less costly. Difficulty wise, i think most instruments are difficult in their own terms.

However, as you said, you are doing quite well with your piano, perhaps you might think about not wasting you talent. But since you are staying out of home, and a student also add on the factor of such a long gap year, you might not be able to take it up as well as you did before, and might be a determent when you really do pick it up later.

My suggestion is look for a fren who really have a piano, or rent a piano from music school, some allows people to play there and rent an hour or two for practice like cyber cafe, that would be on the safe side.

Piano tend to be costly, you cant just buy it and chuck it by the side if you decide not to play. same goes to keyboard. A decent one would probably cost a thousand or close to one.

thts my few cents.. So the rest is all up to you to consider.. Good luk! ;-)
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post Apr 21 2008, 12:17 PM

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Ah I'm studying at UTAR too biggrin.gif
And yea grade 5 is your passport to grade 8, its compulsary
Grade 6 and 7 are optional
My piano teacher say that grade 5 exam is actually the hardest one

jikolo, can I know how you mute your violin? I would love to mute it while practicing laugh.gif
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post Apr 21 2008, 12:41 PM

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well, i bought mine along with my violin. there's 3 type selling there. i dun really know the price of other type. but from what i see, those mute is seriously over priced.

anyway, mt kind of mute is a piece of quite heavy metal tat is clip into the bridge. not tat heavy, 500~700g i think. it can cancel off 70% of the sound. then there's a piece of black rubber tat slide to the bridge, which cancel off 50%. i didnt pick coz still too loud. living at hostel sad.gif

then there's the official concert mute. which i think will cancel off all the sound. and judge from the name, it will be very expensive. it is attach to the string.

i got mine at rm35 sad.gif
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post Apr 21 2008, 03:32 PM

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just an advice tina, don't become a teacher just because you scare when you're jobless. sweat.gif if you want to teach, you can at least lecture in college/uni with your qualification. smile.gif

as for your request, pick an instruments you really love. cause the passion on the things you love will lead to you success. you've grown up, you should know which instrument's sound that'll hook your soul. smile.gif

This post has been edited by little ice: Apr 21 2008, 03:33 PM
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post Apr 21 2008, 03:37 PM

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dont become a teacher just because u are jobless, you will spoil the student's passion as u are not dedicated.

Anyway, piano is far easier than violin, and you are required to finnish grade 5 to countinue.

i would recomend piano as you already know how to play it, if you pick up violin, u need at least 4-6years of learning before you could even perform a single beautiful peice infront of a person.

Anyway, you can choose any of these as long as you are comited.

Nuf said, dont be a music teacher as you are most likely not suitable, but be your own proffesion!
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post Apr 21 2008, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(jikolo @ Apr 21 2008, 10:25 AM)
im in university too. back when im young. i learnt piano, till grade 4 i think. then, stop coz moved.

then last year, i started pick up instrument again. i start with guitar. well, i like it, but, just tat, its not the tone tat im looking for. then i tried violin. and thats the tone tat im looking for. now learning violin. its quite easy in term of technique... just need to practise more. well... now tat im learning 2 instument at the same time.

guitar more of like... play with fren kindda thing and violin... well so far no body knows im learning even my housemate also dunno thanks to the mute and my good sound isolating room.

perhaps u can also learn both at the same time like me
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but I only have 3 years, how far can I go with violin?


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:01 pm
QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Apr 21 2008, 12:16 PM)
I personally think it all depends on you, whether your passion lies with the piano or violin..

If you are really interested in violin, maybe u can consider getting a cheaper china made one to try out, there is one in the garage sales rite now.. Go take a look..

Also, maybe it ll make life less complicated for you, more mobility, less costly. Difficulty wise, i think most instruments are difficult in their own terms.

However, as you said, you are doing quite well with your piano, perhaps you might think about not wasting you talent. But since you are staying out  of home, and a student also add on the factor of such a long gap year, you might not be able to take it up as well as you did before, and might be a determent when you really do pick it up later.

My suggestion is look for a fren who really have a piano, or rent a piano from music school, some allows people to play there and rent an hour or two for practice like cyber cafe, that would be on the safe side.

Piano tend to be costly, you cant just buy it and chuck it by the side if you decide not to play. same goes to keyboard. A decent one would probably cost a thousand or close to one.

thts my few cents.. So the rest is all up to you to consider.. Good luk! ;-)
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how much is a decent violin these days huh? if time allows, I might take both piano and violin. but the time being, maybe just settle for 1...


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:01 pm
QUOTE(Momotaro Kun @ Apr 21 2008, 12:17 PM)
Ah I'm studying at UTAR too  biggrin.gif
And yea grade 5 is your passport to grade 8, its compulsary
Grade 6 and 7 are optional
My piano teacher say that grade 5 exam is actually the hardest one

jikolo, can I know how you mute your violin? I would love to mute it while practicing  laugh.gif
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Which UTAR kampus? drool.gif currently I'm at FICT.


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:05 pm
QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 21 2008, 03:37 PM)
dont become a teacher just because u are jobless, you will spoil the student's passion as u are not dedicated.

Anyway, piano is far easier than violin, and you are required to finnish grade 5 to countinue.

i would recomend piano as you already know how to play it, if you pick up violin, u need at least 4-6years of learning before you could even perform a single beautiful peice infront of a person.

Anyway, you can choose any of these  as long as you are comited.

Nuf said, dont be a music teacher as you are most likely not suitable, but be your own proffesion!
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i do have my passion towards this job. I'm just widen my choices only, maybe.. for backups? LOL

This post has been edited by toccatina: Apr 21 2008, 06:05 PM
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post Apr 21 2008, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 21 2008, 05:58 PM)
but I only have 3 years, how far can I go with violin?
how much is a decent violin these days huh? if time allows, I might take both piano and violin. but the time being, maybe just settle for 1...
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you only have 3 years to spend? hmm.gif

as long as you practice everyday, 3 years is enough to hit around grade 6 since you already know piano.

decent violin ah, boleh listen one around rm800 at the least lo. lower than that your ear suffer. hmm.gif


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:07 pm
QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 21 2008, 05:58 PM)
i do have my passion towards this job. I'm just widen my choices only, maybe.. for backups? LOL
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doubt no further, start going for lessons asap. thumbup.gif

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post Apr 21 2008, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 21 2008, 06:06 PM)
you only have 3 years to spend? hmm.gif

as long as you practice everyday, 3 years is enough to hit around grade 6 since you already know piano.

decent violin ah, boleh listen one around rm800 at the least lo. lower than that your ear suffer. hmm.gif


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:07 pm
doubt no further, start going for lessons asap. thumbup.gif
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but which instrument to choose.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 21 2008, 06:11 PM)
but which instrument to choose..  rclxub.gif
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First of all, do u have a budget?
Well, u can start off with a cheap violin or second hand violin.. make sure to bring a fren who knows their stuff with you..
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QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 21 2008, 06:11 PM)
but which instrument to choose..  rclxub.gif
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ok, to think in a commercial way, violin teacher has HUGH demand in the market now, even in KL. rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 21 2008, 06:15 PM

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actually i think its best to find one which really rocks ur boat.. biggrin.gif
And bear in mind, there is no ultimate instrument.. Each instrument will have their drawback and advantage, as far as i know..
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Apr 21 2008, 06:13 PM)
First of all, do u have a budget?
Well, u can start off with a cheap violin or second hand violin.. make sure to bring a fren who knows their stuff with you..
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it will be nice if a violin is below rm1000..
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then i think little ice just solved your problem.. he did said a decent one would be somewhere there.

Piano would be way higher for a decent one
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 21 2008, 06:13 PM)
ok, to think in a commercial way, violin teacher has HUGH demand in the market now, even in KL. rclxm9.gif
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how far can i go with 3 years to spend with violin?

I can continue it when i move back to KL after degree.

but the fees are so much more expensive than it used to be!

totally blood sucking!
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QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 21 2008, 06:17 PM)
how far can i go with 3 years to spend with violin?

I can continue it when i move back to KL after degree.

but the fees are so much more expensive than it used to be!

totally blood sucking!
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i know a violin teacher where a lot of his students can hit grade 8 within 3 years. notworthy.gif

it depends how hardworking you are. if you already know piano, hitting grade 6 ain't no problem. smile.gif

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post Apr 21 2008, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ Apr 21 2008, 06:17 PM)
how far can i go with 3 years to spend with violin?

I can continue it when i move back to KL after degree.

but the fees are so much more expensive than it used to be!

totally blood sucking!
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I guess it all depends on how fast can you absorb, if you can utilise what u remember, all u need to do is train the technical skills...

Playing music aint cheap anymore unless you are talking about the guitar and the harmonica.. biggrin.gif

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