Other than wat they already said, a CPU OCed will last, as long as the voltage is not touched. After some time ,there is sumthing called electromigration, basically, a processor will start to fry after sum time. for you. By NE0CZ. Dont ever play with voltage, didnt mom tell you that voltages are dangerous, have you never read "DANGER! HIGH VOLTAGE!"? KURANG AJAR!

This post has been edited by ne0cz: May 10 2008, 10:23 PM

It's too early to conclude that your computer problems were caused by OC. A spoilt Hard Disk might give the above symptoms too.

Correct me if I am wrong, but normally OC a system will not cause one's system to die as early as 1.5 years. Some more what you did was just mild overclocking, nothing extreme.

This post has been edited by westley0214: May 12 2008, 11:36 PM

200 MHZ OC
i dun think that contributes a lot

most probably you need to re'OC your pc..you have different ram now, it might not perform and oc as well as your previous ram..so the previous setting is no more reliable, need to find another setting bro..

Watch ur PC. Remember to check volts

well i dont totally agree with neocz. there is of course a degradation to your solid state inside your processor but most of your processors under stringest testings before its sold in the market. And i dont really think TS oc voltage is high enough to promote electron migration with total effect. It can be other issues

I don't know. I dont play with voltage. And will never play with it.

bro theres nothing wrong playing with voltage as long you know where the limit is and u dont go overboard with it like some ppl

a1098113, that's not entirely true.
Even the slightest increase on voltage will degrade the processor. Although it takes time, it will degrade slowly.

As what my sifu told me:
Electromigration degrades the fine copper wires inside microprocessors
Even a normal processor running at it's normal voltage has a degree of electromigration, it's just that the degree is so small it's considered useless to count.

agree with shawty, even stock voltage there were electromigration... ur proc will die no matter if u OC or not in the long term... eg 10, 20 years... but i guess most of us who OC will change proc every 2-4 years... so its doesnt matter if u have mild OC... i have 2 amd proc now running as BT rig and home rig on stock which i have been oc it before when i was using it as main rig...

That's not my statement lah, still learning from my shifuu.

i heard tht few months ago from my electronics lecturer... but didnt go understand more... just rougly know wat electromigration is... the smaller the chip size go, eg 65nm, 45nm, the more electromigration occurs i think when oc'ed and applied higher voltages, if i not memorize wrongly... but i think company like intel will use better silicon and new technologies to overcome such problem..

This post has been edited by lichyetan: Jun 8 2008, 07:43 PM

hmm yeah, electron migration affects anything electronic.. just that at what degree of severity its at, depends on how much voltage ur going to pump into it. So for someone who does extreme overclocking over a period of time, his/her rate of em, would be higher than someone with a least amount of oc or none good stuff to learn more about shawts. I also need to learn more from my sifus too

That's true.
And sadly, that's the downside of having smaller die processors.

Right now, we're at 45nm, just imagine what would've happen when 32nm and even smaller dies were to be produced.

then the smaller the Vcore needed to pump for higher speeds... well, hmm, thats why i prefer 65nms.. 32nm procs dont even use FSB, they use QPI and hmm its a mod version of Hyper Transport.. no idea how we are going to overclock when they is no fsb to play with.

Shawts, looks like they saw what we ocers are doing with their procs, so they have locked all the goodies..

Nayy, when there's a will, there's a way.
When the time comes, there will be a way for us to overclock them for sure.

ElectroMigration is happening in my system now.
Normally i only need to use 1.3625Volts for my Q6600 B3 to run at 400 X 9.
Lately, the system is going through a lot of BSOD.
Had to increase the VCore from 1.3625Volts to 1.3655Volts to stabilize the system.

After increasing the VCore from 1.3625Volts to 1.3655Volts, no more BSOD.

Damn!
ElectroMigration is happening as we speak.
I'm telling people about ElectroMigration, Whereas it's happening in my own system.

LOL Wut?

It seems that E8400s can go far without voltage increase...I think it is better, hope nehalem can go even further....

1.83 - 2.00 ghz
i dun think you need to increase any voltage,

I think it's best is to OC only when you need it. Not like you gonna need it on the games since it relies a lot more on the GPU these days.

I also think this will increase the life time of your PC if you don't 24/7 with an overclocked PC.

Another factor is the electronic components will degrade overtime, not just the processor.