Cyber Cafe (Profit gain / lost)?
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 Apr 18 2008, 03:33 PM, updated 18y ago
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What is your opinion on opening a cyber cafe? Is it high capital with high return and high risk? Or Is it low return? Pls do comment about it. Any1 who opened a cyber cafe or have done so before I would really like to hear your valueable opinion.
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Apr 18 2008, 03:41 PM
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lost! dont ever open a cc lor... bad biz investment ... cos mostly nowdays can get free internet ...
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Apr 18 2008, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(Nadia_1510 @ Apr 18 2008, 03:41 PM) lost! dont ever open a cc lor... bad biz investment ... cos mostly nowdays can get free internet ... lolz the trend nowadays usually the ppl go there for the lan connection so that a group of friends can hang out and play together. Not really due to the internet connection =.= but that certainly is a plus for the business |
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Apr 18 2008, 04:07 PM
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So I think provided you have a good targeted market (near school or university) you should be able to survive kua... But heard the license is not easy to get right?
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Apr 18 2008, 04:11 PM
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What I heard, MPAJ and MPPJ is currently freezing license.
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Apr 18 2008, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(b00n @ Apr 18 2008, 04:11 PM) What I heard, MPAJ and MPPJ is currently freezing license. where is MPAJ?Yea the license hard to get but it is still manageable. I just curious is it a good biz or a tough 1 |
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Apr 18 2008, 04:53 PM
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Well I think business is there la. Look at SS15
Mostly students and college ppl are main customers. With more and more games coming up I guess its still a market for it. The thing you need to consider is whether its profitable or not cause you have to put in heavy investment to compete with existing cafe's. Else you got no egde. So the ROI is not that quick as you wish. You need to think through and calculate and see whether its worth your investment or not. For some cafe's the profit comes in after 2-3 yrs. So think about it carefully |
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Apr 18 2008, 04:55 PM
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high investment.. low capital return...
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Apr 18 2008, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(MyGaming-Aaron @ Apr 18 2008, 04:16 PM) where is MPAJ? Majlis Perbandaran Ampang JayaYea the license hard to get but it is still manageable. I just curious is it a good biz or a tough 1 |
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Apr 18 2008, 10:25 PM
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#1, location.
#2, good hardward supplier relationship #3, channels to resell your old hardwares #4, connection with ganster and polis with all the above, cybercafe is still a sure win biz. |
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Apr 18 2008, 10:30 PM
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I think you should be able to make good money if:
1) you are in an area with a good customer base like eg. someone mentioned schools/colleges. 2) you have the attraction factor - like good games. Locally and overseas, the cafes that are packed always seem to be packed with people playing games. If you can get those people to spend an hour (or two or three or five) at your cafe, you can't do too badly. |
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Apr 18 2008, 10:47 PM
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should be high capital, then u also need to maintain/upgrade ur PC always. But the profit should be not bad also .
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Apr 18 2008, 10:51 PM
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i have planning already about opening one in my hometown. just curious, does the license differ if my cc are more toward gaming center ??
how about if i were to start a paid tournament ?? do i need special license to received entrance fee ?? hehe, sorry TS for hijacking  |
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Apr 18 2008, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(bennyhwl @ Apr 18 2008, 10:47 PM) should be high capital, then u also need to maintain/upgrade ur PC always. But the profit should be not bad also . Yeah...the capital is high! But once you manage to collect RM300 and above....each day! Then it is alright!Well, the magic Rm300 will end you up with Around RM9000 a month of gross income! But if your premise rental, your staff salary, electricity, maintenance,etc etc Around 6k... Then you will be alrights If you charge your customer RM2 an hour...to get Rm300 a day, you need to get 150Hour of computer usage! This is a simplistic calculation....you can actually add other services to increase your overall income! [you can take my word, i been in this business before] ------------------------------------ oN The other hand, a guy selling kuey teow can sell 100 plates each day [a true example] Each plate cost about Rm5.. His average gross income is around RM500 a day..(Rm15000 monthly) His monthly Gross is much better compared to the Cyber cafe example above...with a very minimal initial capital! This post has been edited by maxovista: Apr 18 2008, 11:06 PM |
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Apr 19 2008, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(maxovista @ Apr 18 2008, 11:00 PM) Yeah...the capital is high! But once you manage to collect RM300 and above....each day! Then it is alright! well normally even for a small CC they actually earn around RM1k a daywith around 50 -100 pc's. Well, the magic Rm300 will end you up with Around RM9000 a month of gross income! But if your premise rental, your staff salary, electricity, maintenance,etc etc Around 6k... Then you will be alrights If you charge your customer RM2 an hour...to get Rm300 a day, you need to get 150Hour of computer usage! This is a simplistic calculation....you can actually add other services to increase your overall income! [you can take my word, i been in this business before] ------------------------------------ oN The other hand, a guy selling kuey teow can sell 100 plates each day [a true example] Each plate cost about Rm5.. His average gross income is around RM500 a day..(Rm15000 monthly) His monthly Gross is much better compared to the Cyber cafe example above...with a very minimal initial capital! making kuay teow if it taste bad then we can close shop very early. It is base on biz with skill but for opening CC is biz base on ppl with high capital. That's what I think anyway dont hit me if I'm wrong. U can always correct me  |
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Apr 19 2008, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(MyGaming-Aaron @ Apr 19 2008, 01:23 AM) well normally even for a small CC they actually earn around RM1k a daywith around 50 -100 pc's. a cc with 90 pc can earn up to RM3.5k daily making kuay teow if it taste bad then we can close shop very early. It is base on biz with skill but for opening CC is biz base on ppl with high capital. That's what I think anyway dont hit me if I'm wrong. U can always correct me ROI is about 9 months if fast . . . while if it's slow it will take about a year or little more |
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Apr 19 2008, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(Colaboy @ Apr 19 2008, 11:25 AM) a cc with 90 pc can earn up to RM3.5k daily wow, i mean, those PC number does sounds like many ROI is about 9 months if fast . . . while if it's slow it will take about a year or little more  |
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Apr 19 2008, 12:50 PM
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my opinion about cyber cafe.. good profits I must say. low risk, easy to manage... I got 2 friends involved in this business and making atleast 7-8k per month.
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Apr 19 2008, 12:52 PM
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CC license is belong to entertainment license (correct me if i'm wrong), so it'll be hard to get and i heard at certain area, gov not releasing the license anymore.
Do anyone know the details of The Game License. How much is it cost roughly? just list the famous LAN game. I plan to open a cc also someday, but have no idea of the price of all the license.. so it's kind of hard to budget |
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Apr 19 2008, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(amerz @ Apr 19 2008, 12:52 PM) CC license is belong to entertainment license (correct me if i'm wrong), so it'll be hard to get and i heard at certain area, gov not releasing the license anymore. first you have to have the original windows . . .Do anyone know the details of The Game License. How much is it cost roughly? just list the famous LAN game. I plan to open a cc also someday, but have no idea of the price of all the license.. so it's kind of hard to budget for games you will need to pay the game license to seni mutiara ( warcraft,counterstrike,red alert & etc) ea sports ( fifa,need for speed & etc ) and some others . . . . . |
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Apr 19 2008, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(MyGaming-Aaron @ Apr 18 2008, 03:45 PM) lolz the trend nowadays usually the ppl go there for the lan connection so that a group of friends can hang out and play together. Not really due to the internet connection =.= but that certainly is a plus for the business games need to have gaming license and with that, catergorized under entertainment license which cost 20k a year  QUOTE(b00n @ Apr 18 2008, 04:11 PM) What I heard, MPAJ and MPPJ is currently freezing license. not only MPAJ and MPPJ but whole Selangor under the Menteri BesarQUOTE(maxovista @ Apr 18 2008, 11:00 PM) Yeah...the capital is high! But once you manage to collect RM300 and above....each day! Then it is alright! Well, the magic Rm300 will end you up with Around RM9000 a month of gross income! But if your premise rental, your staff salary, electricity, maintenance,etc etc Around 6k... Then you will be alrights If you charge your customer RM2 an hour...to get Rm300 a day, you need to get 150Hour of computer usage! This is a simplistic calculation....you can actually add other services to increase your overall income! [you can take my word, i been in this business before] ------------------------------------ oN The other hand, a guy selling kuey teow can sell 100 plates each day [a true example] Each plate cost about Rm5.. His average gross income is around RM500 a day..(Rm15000 monthly) His monthly Gross is much better compared to the Cyber cafe example above...with a very minimal initial capital! RM300 a day is pretty low if one really want to earn. Premise rental is how much? Those location as SS15 are like more than RM4k per month. How much you plan to pay for the workers salary? At least a full time must be RM1k , so what if there's 2 workers or more? Mind you, electricity is high. A small cafe of mine already have RM600 of electrical bill with only less than 20 PC inclusive of aircon. To max earnings, must have lots of PC. Lots of PC means more power consumption. Also such earning projected could either be high number of PC or there is constantly people playing and in waiting line to use the PC. QUOTE(MyGaming-Aaron @ Apr 19 2008, 01:23 AM) well normally even for a small CC they actually earn around RM1k a daywith around 50 -100 pc's. wow..50-100 pcs considered small, I wonder what's mine..micron cc? making kuay teow if it taste bad then we can close shop very early. It is base on biz with skill but for opening CC is biz base on ppl with high capital. That's what I think anyway dont hit me if I'm wrong. U can always correct me  QUOTE(KooHei @ Apr 19 2008, 12:50 PM) my opinion about cyber cafe.. good profits I must say. low risk, easy to manage... I got 2 friends involved in this business and making atleast 7-8k per month. making 7-8k means for the shop and not pocketing the amount or getting such salary?it's already considered high risk already. Mayb back then in 1995 onwards, where internet cafe charges RM7 per hour, that was the best time people could earn. Now RM2 and some until RM1.5 per hour. How to earn with high electricity consumption? Also not to mention raids due to online gaming and any other raids that the police and the town council can think of. Either prepare coffee money or let them pack ur pc |
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Apr 19 2008, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(KooHei @ Apr 19 2008, 12:50 PM) my opinion about cyber cafe.. good profits I must say. low risk, easy to manage... I got 2 friends involved in this business and making atleast 7-8k per month. Low risk? This has gotta be a joke! profit is only good if your CC is well established. and guys, please dont calculate by assuming your CC will be full house 24/7  CC is one of the most common failed business.. |
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Apr 19 2008, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Apr 19 2008, 02:59 PM) Also not to mention raids due to online gaming and any other raids that the police and the town council can think of. Either prepare coffee money or let them pack ur pc even with sufficient license also will get raid? just need clarificationQUOTE(justin_nys @ Apr 19 2008, 03:39 PM) and guys, please dont calculate by assuming your CC will be full house 24/7 i have my assumptions and it's a low risk business for me ... starting out big when you are only new should spell trouble CC is one of the most common failed business.. |
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Apr 19 2008, 03:59 PM
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CC is getting harder and harder to operate unless if you do large scale. Cause the normal rate for a cc now is RM2 or RM1.5 which is already low and wht if the elec rate increase?
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Apr 19 2008, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Apr 19 2008, 03:45 PM) even with sufficient license also will get raid? just need clarification go find around the thread. as long as residents complain, they can raid you for whatever reason. be it budak ponteng sekolah, or gambling den.i have my assumptions and it's a low risk business for me ... starting out big when you are only new should spell trouble |
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Apr 19 2008, 06:04 PM
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Location dependent, high capital, low to medium returns, medium term business. You need to pump capital every 3-4 years if you plan to go long term. Your life will turn upside down if dwell too deep (morning sleep, active at midnight which is kinda bad for health), social connection mostly consist of students, young kids and NBTD ppl. Future is bleak if thats your only business.
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May 10 2008, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(justin_nys @ Apr 19 2008, 03:39 PM) Low risk? This has gotta be a joke! If look for Easy Manage for Cyber Cafe nowdays sure MUST use DDS Solution which is Diskless Solutions.profit is only good if your CC is well established. and guys, please dont calculate by assuming your CC will be full house 24/7 CC is one of the most common failed business.. Centralized for all of your numbers of Client PC. PM me for more information with SPECIAL OFFER too!!  |
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