Holy ground give crap damage lar. Easy to heal thru.
With range dps running in and out when hit by repentence losing a lot of dps which cause the fight to go longer than needed. hence healer need to heal more since the fight is longer. no?

Healing and Dispelling Holy Fire is more critical in maiden fight.

Seriously King, how many time have you "attemped" on Maiden ??

I'm not an expert, but basically Maiden have four abilities.
1. Holy ground - strikes anyone that is in melee range, but the damage is crap. easily heal thru. No problem for healer.

2. Holy Wrath - deal massive damage if people are near one another. But normally it won't be more than 3 people in melee range (including tank) therefore it won't be an issue. Four also workable if they are perfectly spread out. tried that b4.

3. Holy Fire - Single target direct spell that applies DOT that deal over 1000 damage per tick. Normally cast upon those outside of her holy aura which means range dpsers and healers will get it.

4. Repentance - caused 8~10s stun upon every members of the raid. Periodic damage can break it, which mean melee class within the holy ground will have no problem breaking it. range dps like a hunter have to run into the holy ground to break it.

Since you said that melee class will cause the healer having a hard time. So tell me, which is easier for healer to deal. melee class that gets holy ground with crap damage or range dps(in this case hunter) that get holy fire ?? hack, even if the damage is equally same between holy ground and holy fire, it is healer job to heal the raid lar. what else can they do ??

And who is the one that have to waste time keep running in and out when hit by repentance and who is the one can continue hitting on maiden without having to move an inch? And they can't even use their pet in this fight assuming there are 3~4 melee class within the holy gorund. So what kind of dps will the hunter produce in this maiden fight?

And, by having a hunter running in and out of holy ground when they are hit with repentance, might increased the chances of chain holy wrath, no??

No i did not said it will stop using holy fire if you have meleers. read again bro. lazy to repeat what i said above.


Ahh... finally something i agreed with what you said....


Still there a slight chance that it might happen right? And it bloody wasted dps running in and out.
Again, with 3 meleer who know what they are doing will not be getting chained constantly. Even 4 meleers will not cause it if they are perfectly spread out. How is it u will be getting chained constantly then? Are you stupid or something ??

No. i said Holy fire normally targeted at the person closest to her BUT OUTSIDE Her HOLY AURA. which mean, melee that are close to her (INSIDE HER HOLY AURA) would not be targeted. Hence Ranged DPSers will be the one have to eat the bloody Holy fire zhit. understand ??


Did u really attempted Maiden before??? most of my run i don't even have to move much. maybe move forward and backward a bit. that is because healer hit by repetence, the tank move a bit so the holy ground will hit the healer therefore break the repetence on the healer. that it.
If the tanker does not move, i don't have to move at all.

I seriously never seen chained wrath happen before in all my run, maybe next time i should purposely run close to the tanker for the sake of wanting to see it happen.

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Added on April 24, 2008, 9:58 am
What ? Your tanker (or is it you) have to run all over to break healers repentance?? and are healers standing at the wall is that your tanker have to run around?? lol
Your paladin don't know how to dispell it meh ? other healer that cannot dispell, don't know how to run in holy ground like your hunter meh? before repentance up, your taanker is not HOT up meh?


look whos talking..


This post has been edited by aaltong: Apr 24 2008, 09:58 AM

So this is your arguement ?? lol.
lame...

Guess myremi are right....

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Added on April 24, 2008, 1:51 pmlol... just bought gaming mouse during PC fair.

This post has been edited by aaltong: Apr 24 2008, 01:52 PM

lol... are you still a bloody kid that play WOW? how old are you by the way ?

Well, i never try kara raid with 10 melee char. therefore i really do not know whether maiden will cast holy fire or not.
But by all means, you can go ahead and try it out. but bear in mind, most probably you raid will wipe even before she cast holy fire.
hack...i don't think you all even get pass trash mobs in kara.

You are creating a scenario that won't be happening in a million years to argue your point. hah..

Can i borrow your statment below and point it at you ??

Swap out two hunters for one shaman and fury warrior.
tank front, shaman left back, fury warrior right back... no chain wrath.
Shaman grounding totem can absorb some holy fires. fury totem up, greatly increase both shaman and fury warrior dps.
Fury warrior make sure thunderclap, DShout and CShout up.
all of these help hearlers job right? agreed???

Hunters cannot send in their pets to help dps because will caused chain wrath. so hunters dps will greatly reduced.
while with two melee class there, they can still continues dps even when repentance up.
And i think both melee dps will out perform the two hunters that are being swap out. hack, maybe even out perform 3 hunters dps combined for this fight.

Time reduced to kill Maiden, healers require to perform less healing too.