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post Apr 28 2008, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(zeli @ Apr 28 2008, 07:44 AM)
that's what make me wondering... to go up to 10k interval usually depends on the fully synthetics oil not the engine. can it be also depends on the engine? 'Grandfather' sphiroth..  rolleyes.gif  hehe... let us call icare to ask them about it. if we all ask and tell them about the matter maybe they could give concrete affirmative on this matter. shall we?

i urged u to initiate first 'grandfather'...  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(diablo69 @ Apr 28 2008, 09:01 AM)
got back from pasir gudang yesterday... saw a cps user on saturday nite, direction from pasir gudang, midnite blue JKT ****...

finally manage to test full tank FC, 300km highway, 200km trafic infested city drive, rm80=500km... not bad ehh...

so everybody wondering bout da 10k service interval... even for full syn, its better to change it at 8k... another thing i doubt the oil filter can last until 10k... before this im using shell semi syn, i use it for 5k before changing it...

btw... when i went for my 1st service, i ask wanna use mineral oil... but they say cps cannot use mineral, must use at least semi syn... is this true or just bull...
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QUOTE(skyancient @ Apr 28 2008, 09:33 AM)
sure not only can use semi syn?? or the SC ppl wanna kong u? hmm.gif  hehe cos mayb they though tat "performance engine + last longer millage" should use semi syn??  tongue.gif
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Most SC doesn't know sh*t about new CPS, same case with the UV glass. Or maybe they try to earn more commission by sellling more expensive oil. AFAIK, the only thing thats matter is the SAE, not type of oil. Type of oil only determine the time before an oil change is needed. Thats why better go to big SC rather than service dealer. sweat.gif
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post Apr 28 2008, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(diablo69 @ Apr 28 2008, 10:05 AM)
hail grandmaster sphiroth...  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html some sauce that i read but still cant come to a conclusion...

but still we have got da answer for da 10k service period... isit good enuf to make sure the engine can last long... wanna stick to 5k interval with semi syn(going to use shell) + oil filter change... at da same time keep da warranty for the engine valid... 5 years service at Proton SC...  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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As long as we serviced at PESC or authorized workshop, I don't think there's a problem with warranty. Everything we change type of oil) are computerized and recorded. nod.gif
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post Apr 28 2008, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(mytrader @ Apr 28 2008, 10:50 AM)
Correct, challenge the SC to give you a written document stating use of other oil except for the one recommended by SC will void your warranty.

The user manual(as a legal binding document) only states the min. oil grade and viscocity needed, not the brand and type of oil.

You could easily challenge them in consumer tribunal, only RM5 to log in your case, fast / cheap and quite efficient.

Anyone know any good service dealers ? The one where you can actually talk to the mech. and see him repair.

Am feed up with the big centers, you tell them your problem, they say no problem .. vmad.gif
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My friend (Waja Campro) done the 2nd service at an service dealer some time ago, cost him almost 300. They added X1-R here and there. doh.gif

For the big SC, make sure they computerize your complaint. This will show up on your invois/receipt along with any repair/adjustment they done. nod.gif
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post Apr 28 2008, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(skyancient @ Apr 28 2008, 11:15 AM)
CPS engine can finish 1 big bottle or engine oil?? cos my previous civic always got left over.. after few times accumulate.. is a new bottle and can b use another time biggrin.gif and is free haha..

which engine oil is recomanded?? other than mobil-1 and shell semi syn?
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Always wanted to try Mobil-1 drool.gif
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post Apr 28 2008, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(skyancient @ Apr 28 2008, 12:36 PM)
how much is it??  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(vo0de3_x | oum@n @ Apr 28 2008, 12:43 PM)
how much for the mobil-1
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RM139 at Carrefour. whistling.gif
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post Apr 28 2008, 05:34 PM

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Anyone got any experience using Iridium spark plug? Issit really worth the money spent? hmm.gif
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post Apr 28 2008, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(skyancient @ Apr 28 2008, 06:38 PM)
last time i saw HKS fully semi syn for RM 99 le haha tongue.gif
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post Apr 28 2008, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(mytrader @ Apr 28 2008, 07:03 PM)
Ya, log in your complaint thru I-care and then send for servicing, "cucuk" thru I-care again if problem not resolve, build up a case with them as each call to I-care is documented and recorded.
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Agreed. Call i-Care everyday until problem resolved. Each call are recorded. thumbup.gif
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post Apr 28 2008, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Apr 28 2008, 07:30 PM)
That quite good FC already, man they should have introduced CPS a long time ago. Btw check out the Gen2 CPS review on May issue of Autocar ASEAN, they have 4 stars out of 5, which is pretty good rating with praises on the long waited CPS engine which improves the car tremendously and the attractive interior! rclxms.gif
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That quite good indeed... The reason for the long wait of CPS is the reliability issue and cost. The previous management want to get more profit, hence the immaturely release of Campro. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Low Rider @ Apr 28 2008, 11:25 PM)
Hi guys,

Finally found something with my Waja CPS that I could really learn to like..I have just travelled to Penang and you guys wouldn't believe the FC I recorded..I filled the tank up before my journey and when I reached Penang I needed just RM37.36 or 19.46 litres of fuel before the auto cut-off kicked in. The distance traveled? 360km!!

To be honest it was hard work achieving this level of FC with a constant speed of 80-90km/h and steady concentration and anticipation of highway traffic to prevent unnecessary braking and acceleration. But still to get 0.103cents/km is no mean feat! My previous Iswara, when subjected to the same driving style could only yield 0.118cents/km. My salute to the CPS engine in this department.

A word of advice to you guys on the remote key. I dropped and broke mine a couple of days after taking the car. I fixed it back and discovered that I couldn't start the engine with the key anymore! The SC guy told me that there is a transponder chip in each key and it has to be programmed before it can be used. In my case I didn't put the chip back, hence rendering the key useless. I have to ask them to put in a new chip at a cost of RM70.

One question here...With this chip in the key does it mean that car thieves would find it harder to do their thing since not just any similar key could start the engine? Does anyone know??
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The transponder only prevent other people from starting tour car with a duplicated keys. They still can hot-wired to start your car, but will take more time. Just put back the transponder and it will work, no need to order new one. laugh.gif

BTW, congrat on getting the superb FC notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(jpker kia @ Apr 28 2008, 11:48 PM)
Even Campro i manage to get rm0.12/KM at 110km/h..But foot must be very light.. tongue.gif
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Must be... my personal best is 16cent/km. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(radd @ Apr 29 2008, 05:07 AM)
anyone know how far this chip can be detect from the key hole? been thinking of this past few days: we take out the chip and put it in our pocket or wallet. so only us with that key can start the engine (exclude case of hotwired). cool huh? brows.gif going to try this asap if i get a screwdriver. but wonder the alarm or keyless remote can be use if we take out that chip. i think it should work since that chip required to start the engine, unless it need battery to operate. hmm.gif
now im using shell (ferrari purpose, but last time no stock mad.gif ), but after this going to try esso since few people claims esso 'jimat'. i found out from my previous trial that shell is superior than petronas in terms of FC, but i believe it depends on engine and driver itself, donno true or not.
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The tranponder do not required battery. It is actually an antenna inside. When the ignition send a RF signal, it will send back (reflect) unique signal. The ignition system then check if the signal is correct before it allows us to start the car. Sadly, because the transponder is small, it need to be close to the ignition system to be able to reflect back the signal. So, putting it inside your wallet is not an option. You can try to experiment the operating range yourself. nod.gif

QUOTE(jianh @ Apr 29 2008, 08:41 AM)
can this Waja CPS headlight fit into old Waja?? Coz I really love the HID light, plus it's not illegal bah
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Should be the same. But, the HID ballast is attached on the bottom of the headlight. Make sure it has enough clearence. You also need to loosen up the front bumper to put it in (because of the ballast). sweat.gif

BTW, just smoked my headlamp for RM110. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(skyancient @ Apr 29 2008, 02:20 PM)
SHOW PHOTO SHOW PHOTO~!! hehe.. u smoke with tinted sticker? or paint the internal? into black? or to gun metal like MME version waja hehe..
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My office laptop doesn't have BT,need to go back home. sweat.gif Paint the internal using black paint, cannot use stcker as its too curvy inside. whistling.gif


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QUOTE(skyancient @ Apr 29 2008, 09:31 AM)
y ur rpm so high?? mine on 110 is only on 3k rpm wo >.<  120 is 3.2k rpm
3.8k already 140. brows.gif

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QUOTE(skyancient @ Apr 29 2008, 02:50 PM)
y don paint to titanium colour?? tongue.gif cos black is quite common d ma hehe  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Black nicer, blend in with the body.

Bad news, ordered the wrong part for K&N airfilter. Waja Campro and CPS use different size. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(Low Rider @ Apr 29 2008, 03:25 PM)
Wow, you seem to know so much about cars and stuff!! Thanks for the advice but I lost the transponder chip and had to get them to put in a new one. By the way I remember you saying that you managed to hit 200km/h in one of your earlier posts but I could only get my car up to 190km/h on a 3km level stretch of highway. Was your speed achieved on level road? The speed increased reasonably quick till I hit 190km/h, then it sort of flatlined and wouldn't go any higher. Maybe with a longer stretch I could hit 200km/h??

Anyway I will test the top speed again and this time I will try to use the Elite stretch from USJ to KLIA. Hopefully can get a better reading!! Ha Ha..
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180 can easily get on 4th gear, but to go further, need quite a long straight road. sweat.gif

Luckily can exchange the airfilter, anyone know what car uses the same air filter. Need to confirm ASAP. Got people told me its the same with NEO.


Added on April 29, 2008, 3:59 pmJust call i-Care, they say its the same. Will re-check. sweat.gif

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Got these picture...

Waja Campro
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Waja CPS
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Gen.2
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Neo
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From my observation, Waja CPS use the same airbox as Neo/Gen.2 issit?
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QUOTE(diablo69 @ Apr 29 2008, 04:13 PM)
from ur pix, gen2 cps also have the same air as waja cps...
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That's what I thought. The thing that make me mad is that i-Care said to me that both Waja Campro and CPS use same air filter mad.gif
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QUOTE(diablo69 @ Apr 29 2008, 05:23 PM)
event the engine layout is the same for gen2 cps and waja cps... heck the snorkel is also the same... need to use screwdrive to open the air box kan??
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Correct. Need to use screwdriver to open. Will exchange it with the one for Gen.2/Neo. smile.gif

BTW, some pictar.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(skyancient @ Apr 29 2008, 05:41 PM)
aiyo really is a bad news bro...  told u last time tat the airbox is diff d ma hehe tongue.gif one is square one is rectangle ma
since u got the wrong 1.. i think they still don  have the latest design for CPS gua?? after u try out the neo 1 do let us know biggrin.gif and also the price diff hehe  icon_rolleyes.gif
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From the pic I posted a few post back, I think Waja PCS uses the same airfilter with Gen.2/Neo.
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QUOTE(skyancient @ Apr 29 2008, 05:44 PM)
wao cool headlamps hehe.. but if u open the head lamp 2 spray it.. will it void the warranty?? or there is no warranty for tat??   hmm.gif blush.gif
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Sure void warranty, but the workshop guarantee 1 year no leek. If got water inside, they will repair it for free. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(skyancient @ Apr 29 2008, 05:45 PM)
yaya i notice tat too... btw the price got diff??
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The Gen.2/Neo is cheaper... laugh.gif

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