errr...
i m thinking of whr to go after my spm...

i decide to take foundation of engineering.
swinburne or mmu is better?
can u list the reason?
thx!

sure MMU la.....
simple nia, coz im also from MMU

swinburne better, australia uni, got ranking

hmm...
any else reason?
i hope to know the quality of equipment and lecturer too.

besides, can i know, after graduate, which university offer a better opportunity of career (in local and foreign)?

TAR College, good good

ya ya... got orgy n dugs party too

not bad if u have no $$$

how much is swinburn btw?

swinburne better la
rm77k for any ENG course.
one word : expensive

ranking? which ranking? i juz checked THES 2007 world university rankings....no swinburne...even curtin not in 200...

who cares about the ranking
there's swinburne uni in aussie.

unless you go oxford,
then only consider ranking.

well.. if 77k is exp... then consider UTAR or any other universities...

then how much is MMU?

Isn't there a Swinburne U in Sarawak?

better choose MMU.

Although i'm MMUians,

i suggest u go through the syllabus first then start to compare it.

engineering syllabus in MMU always update year by year and meets the industries requirement

http://www.mmu.edu.my

I'm confused of getting which university,either MMU or swinburne??
Does both university are teaching in english?
how is the job apportunity from both university?
Any seniors please help me, i dun wan screw my future....

I have not studied in MMU, though I have studied in Swinburne University of Technology, and Design in Victoria, Australia.
I have seen good works come out from students of Swinburne, as well as students of MMU. Although you are probably going to hate what I say next but; whichever you choose to go to, you will have to work hard to do your best. It is expected for you to be able to take initiative on your own in taking effort in going the extra mile.

My experience in Swinburne. They will teach you the basics you need to know, the rest is all up to your independent-initiative. Nobody spoon-feeds you in Swinburne. However being in a different country will give you more exposure to new cultures, lifestyles and design. I am assuming you are talking about a creative course. Studying overseas will broaden your view with new things you might not have experienced locally.

Again, if you are referring to Swinburne in Australia, and not in Sarawak, then obviously the faculty would communicate in English there. A good command of English is important especially in work. You will not be able to run away from it, unless you work in a 'chinaman' company, where Mandarin/Cantonese is highly preferred. That would severely limit your scope though.

I emphasize that should you wish to study overseas where English is their primary language, you might need to brush up your conversing and comprehension skills in English. As decent as most of our command of English may be, their way of communicating in terms of grammar and forming of sentences are different from ours. Not to mention their accent. Or our accent for that matter. Acquiring a certificate showing that your English is at a qualified acceptable standard will help make your application to these countries easier.

Studying overseas will require you to be really independent, being able to look after yourself no matter what happens because your family and friends will not be available there to help you. When looking for a job, especially in Malaysia, what employers will always want is the ability to perform and the ability to produce good results. They also would most probably want to see your past works, as a bearing to how good is your work. Just remember some people still have narrow minded thinking whereby they assume an overseas graduate will surely mean a person who has more skill. Sadly that is not entirely true. Hence the mention that wherever you choose to go, it is up to yourself to make it happen.

This post has been edited by pneoxian: Apr 17 2008, 05:30 PM

I'm an undergraduate of MMU.

Yes, fully English in MMU, no BM or whatsoever except for BM class (for foreign students and those unable to achieve a credit in SPM) and foreign languages classes.

Job opportunity is considered good.
You may want to refer to this? Though it is an old survey but should be reliable.

mmu la...obviously. lolz.

of coz mmu's classes conducted in english. lolz.
well, if i got chance to go overseas, i might choose another uni in aust.

but mmu got orgy party wor. guess u dun wanna miss out on that

oic...so u r recommend me to study in overseas..
so, both university leaver will hv good job opportunity?

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Added on April 17, 2008, 7:27 pmwat is orgy party??
so, how can i choose the school? need to accord to which status? their school leaver job opportunity or wat?

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Added on April 17, 2008, 7:30 pmthanks for ur information given..
which MMU campus r u study right now?
how is the campus? good?

This post has been edited by rodneylaw90: Apr 17 2008, 07:30 PM

if u got an opportunity go to uncle sam lar..

orgy! wee

dont care about job opportunities.... care about being educated...

orgy party? hahaha... google lar

Swineburne is crap, save your money and go to local university or college.

I'm at Malacca campus. Different campuses have different courses.
Quite OK for Malacca but as far as I know Cyberjaya is better in term of facilities.

2 similar topic merged

I think we need to define whether are we talking about Swinburne Sarawak, or Swinburne Melbourne, here.

I personally have more faith in Swinburne Sarawak than the inbreeding some of our IPTA's practice.

i had noticed you keep on mentioning about these activities happening in MMU. Are you studying in MMU and have you witness on these activities before? If not, then you should stop saying about it as if you have been through it or experience it before.

I from MMU and graduated. Yes, i heard of these a lot of times before, but i have not yet witness any of these activities before. If have, so what? It is still up to your decision to choose whether you want to take part in it or not, as simple as that. These activities happening in every Uni or any part of the world, and not to say all the students will involve in it also. As a uni student, you should be able to judge and have your own decision, take responsibilities of your own action. Not to avoid them, but to permanently reject them as simple as that.

This post has been edited by iDk: Apr 19 2008, 05:06 AM

in newpaper mar.. so just sharing it ^^ well.. congrats to u...

They are in top job apportunity ranking because the Uni itself have jobs career day. So basically, everyone will got a chance for interview and got a job fixed before they graduate. The newspaper aren't really realiable just because of this. Anyway it still depends on your performance, knowledge, communication and skills

I've read my fair share of papers in 3 languages, and I have yet to read of any drug culture in MMU. The odd suicide in their apartments, yes, in those sensationalist Chinese language papers.

When will people ever learn not to listen to rumors?

His statement is not accurate and cannot be trust at all. Few times already say things out of the thin air.

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Added on April 19, 2008, 6:09 pmWhich newspaper and what date was it? I want to see what they talk about the orgy fest in MMU and also the drugs.

This post has been edited by iDk: Apr 19 2008, 06:09 PM

the name was not mentioned... which uni has a campus in melaka n kl?

its a tarp lar i tell u... a tarp

I heard Taylor's have too and your room also has.

This post has been edited by Virgle: Apr 19 2008, 09:28 PM

go for swinburne lor... now its top 500 in the world, at least better than local uni, less orgy party summore... safe... lolz...

experience kuching, dance with the bumiputra at long house cool wat... experience the flood in kuchig now... cool wat...

Typical west malaysia mentality. they always think kuching/sarawak or anything east malaysian is always represented by long houses, aborigines, eating exotic animals and etc.

This is coming from someone who lives in the peninsular and believe me, I've friends from East malaysia who has more substance than most KL folks I know.

Must be a product of local uni to say something so meaningless, unbelievable and non-sustainable.

some people dont believe facts between the lines and when they are told the truth they cant take it and they come up with stupid reasons to justify their $$$ spend.

He's studying in Monash. There's a lot of other rumours as well that people spread here about other institutions, main the public universities. Without any proof.



Smart people shouldn't listen to rumours, they have no proof as well, Seems like there's some kind of government-based institutions haters in here. They spread bad rumours about IPTA and half-government institutions like MMU without any proof. I think we might want to report to the mods about this. It's an embarassment to the country. Is this what some Malaysians are good at? no wonder we're still so slow.




He told the same type of nonsense about other universities at the Monash thread as well. Seems like there's some kind of government-based institution haters in here. They spread bad rumours about IPTA and half-government institutions like MMU without any proof. I think we might want to report to the mods about this. It's an embarassment to the country. Is this what some Malaysians are good at? no wonder we're still so slow.




uhuh, where's you're proof? busted.


DUDE!!! what in the world? check the world ranking properly man. Public universities in Malaysia like UM, USM, UKM, and UPM are number 230 - 300+ in the world. Swinburne is only at number 400. SEE HERE TIMES HIGHER EDUCATION - QS WORLD RANKING ---> http://www.topuniversities.com/university_...s/fullrankings/



If you're so smart you wouldn't stereotype people like that. The public universities here are world ranked 230-300+ in the world. Don't believe me? go check. Man I keep repeating the same stuff over and over again in this forum, I wonder when some people are gonna actually learn the real facts. No wonder the country is so slow.

This post has been edited by Iliveunderwater: Apr 12 2009, 07:09 PM

btw, i m not studying there... i had already grad.

u want prove? but can u take it?

http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Stor...0416-60102.html

i m free to say what i want... if u wanna defend watever u wanna say, its fine...

Not trying to stir up anything here, just for your kind information MMU is not a half government institution. We are fully private university.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Apr 12 2009, 07:46 PM

d last time i heard telekom wanted to dispose their shares in mmu or something... if telekom hols shares in mmu it is still a glc right?

Rumours and our lecturers have shown the letter to us. No, TM is not disposing us. We are one of their biggest income generators.
Anyway TM is a privatised organisation.

but doesnt that means TM is a glc? tm must be owned by khazanah or pnb or epf or somekind of gov linked company right?

I don't think so. It is on its own since it is privatised. We are not funded by Government, for your kind information. Every facility built in MMU is by our fees and assistance from TM.
Oh ya, we are the first private university in Malaysia after UNITEN.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_University

This post has been edited by fruitie: Apr 12 2009, 08:13 PM

i read in wiki, i dunno true or not since it is wiki... it was written there 1st private uni after uniten.. if it is 1st after 1st shouldnt it be 2nd? ahhaha... doesnt matter

i read from here they say mmu is a glc?

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Telekom_Malaysia
http://www.etawau.com/edu/UniversitiesPrivate/MMU.htm

Yes I know that you study at monash, but it doesnt matter that you study or STUDIED there or not. It already shows that you never studied at MMU, like how the other guy was asking you. read back. And you were giving out bad statements about MMU when you never studied there?


Oh yeah man lets check out the proof shall we. Ok so here's the mumba jumba you provided :



Now let's inspect this evidence of yours. Can you take it?

haha get ready man. You can defend this if you want, just like you said, go ahead, feel free. FREEDOM OF SPEECH, american style.

1. There are only 15 university students in the party out of thousands of students enrolled in MMU, if they were from MMU that is. AND it doesnt state that the drug party was held EVERY YEAR. It could be a one time thing only and one time events could happen at any universities So why are you making it sound like it would be happening every year? and you still don't have proof for that. Michael Phelps just got caught smoking weed in a party held by students from University of South Carolina but you never made a fuss about it? http://www.intro2u.net/new/2009/02/michael...king-marijuana/

Plus if the police found them guilty and they got expelled, case solved.

2. Just because it says the university students are involved are enrolled at universities in KL and malacca it doesn't mean that it has to be 'linked'. What makes you think it has to be linked? LOL. There are other universities in KL and there are other universities in Malacca as well. The university students from KL could be enrolled in UniKL while the Malaccan students could be from UiTM Malacca and they are connected through friendship from Secondary School. As far as I know, UiTM sends their Mass Communication diploma students to Malacca. The students could be anywhere from PJ or KL having to further studies in UiTM malacca because it is the cheapest.

3. And check this out "Deputy Higher Education Minister Datuk Idris Harun said he would be speaking to the universities so that they could assist police in their investigations." This is from your OWN proof as well LOL. It shows that the universities could be more than ONE university and doesn't have to be linked. Dude what made you conclude that it is MMU ?

4. Do you think a university could control their students that much? What students do outside universities are at their own fault.

Hello there, actually it does not matter whether MMU is half gov or full private. Because the common knowledge about MMU, is that it is half government because of TM. The common knowledge. That's why serlahc is asking so many questions now about what you said.

This post has been edited by Iliveunderwater: Apr 12 2009, 09:02 PM

well, u dont have to study at every uni in the world to compare every single one of them.

and did i mention it wrong? i didnt say that they have it every year. neway every uni should have its history of trajic stuff. if u know d guys, then u know where they are from. uitm got african kids mar?

Swineburne is crap, save your money and go to local university or college.

If you are so smart, you would not stereotype by saying all local universities are better than Swinburne. Some are and some aren't.

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Apr 12 2009, 09:53 PM