Where r u based?

Well a lot of suggestions and ideas can be brought up. But 2 execute it is a whole different story. U need money, manpower and so on..

To satisfied everyone is kinda hard but it can be done.. with proper planning n good sponsorship than e-sports will emerge as a big industry in malaysia. One way is to create an active tournament with a two polls. Losers of first round and second round goes to losers poll while winners march on.

But yeah this suggestions also have its own pro and con... people who are actually good might 'lose' the game during 1st round, just to grab the title for losers poll. But this way, amateur player would be able to compete with those pro players from outside malaysia. And it will increase malaysian players experience.

Again it is all about money.. u have money than only u can talk. U can create so many tournaments the whole year.. talented new players will emerge since there a platform for them to shine. That why i said it is vital for SMM or any other organizer to cooperate with Ministry to get some budget for e-sports. It's maybe not much for the first time, say around 200k.. but i'm sure it's more than enough to get e-sports going in malaysia.

You know why Malaysian sports are poor (mostly)? Becoz sports in malaysia never produce a millionaire (almost tough for squash n badminton). Just imagine if playing Counter Strike or DotA will make u a millionaire.. im sure your parent will encourage u to train more. They might buy u all the expensive gears..

just my 2cen toughts

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Added on April 15, 2008, 4:51 pmGovernment people very easy to kow tim... i know. Invest some money on the right person, then u'll get this thing going.. i work in government sector, i know how they spend. If you got a very good relation with Minister.. haha that would be easier.

shhhh this is off the record.. haha

This post has been edited by Beast-Slayer: Apr 15 2008, 04:52 PM

I definetely agree that there are cons as well as pros regarding inviting overseas teams to participate in SMM, however looking at it carefully, it will certainly bring more cons in comparison to pros.

Take a long look at the name of the tournament itself, Sendi Mutiara Malaysia(SMM) tournament. It is obvious that we should only allow Malaysian teams to tournament as it is the only big-scale tournament in Malaysia that offers such a big reward and prize cash to the participants. However, by inviting other teams from overseas, local teams WILL be discouraged as Flizzardo has mentioned and pointed out earlier.

I do see the joy in being able to laugh in Vigoss's face, IF(which is the big question) we can even lay a finger on him. Please don't be too hopeful, currently our dota standard is on the rise and developing, bringing in too tough a competition will only serve to stunt the growth of our gaming community. Do not think so far in the future, think of our current situation.

We should allow our local teams to enjoy having their special own country tournament. It would be dreadful if such a big price cash for all 3 top placing be given out to overseas teams.

There are enough tournaments in the world to satisfy the overseas top teams, let our local players have a chance at glory. : )

That's just a figure of speech. A metaphor.

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Added on April 15, 2008, 5:40 pmI don't see the reason why if they join, it'll be like auto-win for them. By right, with no doubt at all, our local talent are with the same par or maybe superior compare with them, given the match play with no whatsoever delay at all. Unless, you're underestimated yourself and the rest of Malaysian DotA community with that statement. I, myself think Team Ice can beat VP like no problem. =)

Anyhow, everyone is entitled with their own opinions, and Seanz, you're right in a certain degree in your post. No offense taken or meant.

This post has been edited by Iblis: Apr 15 2008, 05:42 PM

I know it was just a metaphor, but metaphors can be countered.

Also, there are obviously very good teams in Malaysia as well, such as Kingsurf who's team has won XCN and zenith on numerous occasions, however what i'm talking regarding are not the high-profile teams such as Kingsurf BUT, the new teams which have just been formed and would like to have a shot at getting into the top 8. With high-profile overseas teams participating, their chances have been lowered down MORE in addition to the top local teams

So we should allow our underdogs to have a chance to win as well.

No offense taken, we're having a civilized discussion, all opinions are welcomed to this.

However, i think by improvements to the tournament, the thread-starter probably meant things in terms of organizing.

Firstly, from my last year's experience and the previous previous year as well. 2006 and 2007, it was very disorganized.

1) Players should be allowed to watch other teams playing on a big-screen. An attempt to obtain several big-screen TV's for the sake of the participants as well as spectators will be very much appreciated.

2) Drinks should be supplied, Cheap ones. Sponsors should be pretty easy to find as many brand names would love to have their brand splashed all over a cybercafe, especially one with so many people there.

3) Not only that, the previous year had a commentator or two, can't quite recall who but they mumbled too much and spoke without clearity. We can barely hear the commentators past the noise from the public.

4) Also, we must ensure that the organizers start the matches punctually and end on time so that teams are no exhausted from the long journey as well as from waiting all day long. Teams whom are not on time without proper reason should be disqualified or marks should be deducted to ensure fairness and responsibility of the team leader who should make certain that their team are on the dot.

lol

This post has been edited by Ice-SeaNz`: Apr 15 2008, 06:05 PM

kser a......your english so good.....= =

Having teams from oversea is certainly a good idea. Instead of open competition, maybe SMM could have an invitational exhibition competition for starters. Like top SMM Nationals teams vs. the International Teams.

Also, I would like to suggest to move the Grand Final venue to a more open area. It's more comfortable for everybody instead of cramping everyone in a cybercafe.

Hihihihihihihihihihihi

i think... SMM want return some favor to our local(malaysia) player/cybercafe, if you know how much they(CC) need to pay for the WC3 licen. Anyways, it's and interesting thing to discuss with, but don't forget, the purpose for SMM helding this tournament

Wow never thought so many constructive ideas this year ^^ and all in 1 day swt
This year we will try to make the tournament more entertaining and satisfy more party and improve the standards of Dota teams throughout Malaysia.
All your valueable ideas we'll keep in view and try our best to fulfill it.

So guys keep all the good ideas coming.

Btw the version will be updated with due time to best suit for competition so just cont to train the 6.48b map first

Every statement that baowen makes have a deeper meaning about it, I can feel it.

'Ada Udang Sebalik Batu'

NOOB PHILOSOPHY

return?? lol, you are dreaming, sound like u wan black society return u some benefit

they do tourney just to show blizzard they are doing thing in malaysia and to renew their warcraft license then they can keep sucking money

nothing to respect to this kind of company

-.-

nles explain for me jor

lol....ah wong ar since wen ur english so good 1.....u go 4 tuition arr

This post has been edited by ExilePhebs`: Apr 16 2008, 11:14 AM

yea yea....sean ur english suddenly become good one...wow...

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Added on April 17, 2008, 7:46 pmyea yea....sean ur english suddenly become good one...wow...



This post has been edited by Umbalakiki: Apr 17 2008, 07:46 PM

SMM GO GO GO

Agree to chapree.
if wanna invite international teams, invite one or two, make an exhibition match.
ya know, like charity shield.

this year smm will held at when?

??sdfa@#^@& ??? @#24

Professional ?

LOL, lets not kid ourselves here. Until the day we get government and corporate support/sponsorship, gaming in Malaysia will still be regarded as a hobby. So far all we've had are at best product sponsorships and plenty of broken promises.

Passion for gaming will only get one that far. This part of the world, rarely will it bring food to the table or money into one's pocket.

i believe one day, malaysia government will promote e-games. and that day.... so close yet so far ~.~