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TSgtoforce
post Apr 11 2008, 02:03 AM, updated 18y ago

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PC SPECS

CPU - FX-60 @ 2.60ghz with Cooler Master Hyper 212 (One Fan) + Arctic Cooling MX-2 flex.gif
RAM - Kingston Value Ram 1gb DDR400 x 3 flex.gif
Motherboard - ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe flex.gif
GPU - Colorful ATI Radeon X1950GT 512mb 256bit blush.gif
PSU - FSP Epsilon 600w rclxms.gif
HDD - 2x Sata 1x PATA smile.gif
Optical - 2 x DVD-RW 1x CD-ROM blush.gif
Diskette - 1 x yawn.gif

need suggestions thumbup.gif

Goal - to OC the CPU to at least 3.00ghz
as for RAM, dont think much cuz its kingston value ram (C3), nothing much can be done anyways, nak oc pun ape je dapat (but i letak heatsink just for the style)


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TSgtoforce
post Apr 12 2008, 03:13 AM

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i dunno dude
even when i dont tweak
sometimes when i boot, it'll say "overclocking failed, press f1 to enter setup or f2 to load default values..."

if i tweak one thing, its the same message
what the heck eh?
TSgtoforce
post Apr 19 2008, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(bad melatonin @ Apr 15 2008, 09:30 AM)
ever try flashing ur mobo wt diff version of bios? perhaps it might solve d prob... or else RMA....
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 15 2008, 12:02 PM)
The bios seems very same with me.But i cannot really know where your OC Configuration are..
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Apr 15 2008, 12:38 PM)
Try to up your multi only and see how does that work.
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it wont work
i up one thing
lets say the FSB, then the boot up will say overclock failed
ala, whats worse is
even if i dont tweak, sumtimes the bios even said overclock failed
haha
weird huh?
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post May 16 2008, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 19 2008, 10:57 AM)
That is totally wrong, I have no problem overclocking on my M2N-E

@gtoforce

If you get error even when you're not overclocking, check your memory timing
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DFI is one hell of overclocking horse
but super hard to tweak here and there cuz minor mistake board wont post and u wont know what mistake u did

biostar - suck
better go for ECS

anyways, i just wanna resuscitate this thread

here's my OC results
still doing it gradually

Methods
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n/b: actually i oc it little by little, firstly from stock 2.6ghz to 2.7ghz and did prime (5hours) & Super PI 1m,8m,32m all stable but forgot to take pic until my bro reminded me...haha

Stock

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so here's the next step

1) AMD Athlon FX-60 @ 2.870ghz
Fsb - 205
Multiplier - 14

CPU-Z

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Super PI
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Temps during Super PI (it was the same during & after test)
Using Asus PC Probe
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will continue with further
as can be seen from the probe, no increase in vcore or any other voltages are done
thats the virtues of FX series and that i need not tweak the ram cuz
i) its unlocked multiplier, so ram divider no use
ii) my mobo does not allow me to tweak the ram speed...it already starts at 166mhz...haha

later i might need some advice on the HT link speeds (if there's anything wrong)

by the way, since prime95 skarang sudah baru, which is the best test
small fft, in place fft or blend?
i mean i wanna save time...haha
and that everywhere i ask, they said super PI is better than Prime cuz Super PI tests all system with maximum stress while Prime is more towards CPU and focus is for long hours use...

what do u think?

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TSgtoforce
post May 17 2008, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 16 2008, 08:31 PM)
AMDAthlon...939 system not as easy to OC as AM2....
this is FX 60 thumbup.gif  a superb proc at its time....

why not try update ur bios to the latest one or the one that say "FX support" nod.gif
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suda
haha
kao tao tak latest bios update is august 2007
ahahaha
yang paling baru ade tapi asus nyer web cam tongong sket
but since now im still fine testing it at 2.94 ghz, so takyah update
plus i got a better cooler
hehehe


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post May 17 2008, 01:32 AM

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2) AMD Athlon FX-60 @ 2.940ghz

CPU-Z
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Temperature during Super PI
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Super PI
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so far stable
played rainbox six vegas 2 for 30mins at max, universe at war & world in conflict
no hang reboot bsod
will try 3.0ghz after this

3.0 so far tak stable under super PI but can still play game
tapi tanak ambik risk
haha
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post May 17 2008, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 17 2008, 01:46 AM)
Maybe 3.0 u need to increase VCore abit maybe to 1.45V?
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max vcore is 1.400 in the bios
but there's an option for vcore overvoltage to be enabled (option between +100mv or +200mv)
maybe i try
haha
wanna prime this first
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post May 17 2008, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ May 17 2008, 11:05 AM)
thats pretty low max vcore hmm.gif AFAIK s939 generation procs needed volts. My old manchester 3800+ needed 1.45v to reach 2.7ghz. Toledo core should be similar I guess, but yours surely better. Why havent tried going for orthos stability yet? Sigh.....FX-60, used to be my dream proc once upon a time.
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u know what dude
orthos and prime failed
sekejap je
tapi weird thing is, super PI i tested two simultaneously 32m, both worked fine after almost 40mins
and i played lost planet at max for 3 hours nothing happened
why eh?

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 17 2008, 11:52 AM)
Haha if it cannot be your dream proc.Wait AMD Phenom FX then tongue.gif
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i want phenom fx too
haha
my only hope for AMD is unlocked multipliers
hahaha
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post May 17 2008, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ May 17 2008, 07:06 PM)
Well imo nothing beats actual real-world experience, so if the games and other apps work fine, forget prime and orthos smile.gif. They aren't really perfect programs.

Wait....another thought, do you run other tasks while orthos or priming? It sometimes causes the program to show errors.
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QUOTE(gamers maniac @ May 17 2008, 07:23 PM)
sometimes i get prime stable, but not orthos. sometimes super PI stable but not prime stable and the list goes on. as long as i get one stress software stable i wouldnt mind if others fail as long as no bsod, sudden hang, and etc. icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeah
but if super PI not stable, even at 16k, then i have to start worrying brows.gif brows.gif
3.0ghz still cannot stand super PI icon_rolleyes.gif
but thats with lower volts
i havent given it over voltage
will try later and upload pics

3dmark 06 with 1950gt and 3gb ram is 4745 - cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post May 17 2008, 11:46 PM

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currently am testing the system at 3.0ghz and this will be it for the day (penat repairing my cousin's old system and fitting xigmatek Achilles on it)

but 3.0ghz stable at 1.5v is normal kan?
thats the max voltage it can go, does it mean i cant up the speed lagi?

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post May 18 2008, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 18 2008, 12:12 AM)
1.5V is normal.So its stable at 3.0?Dont want to try 3.1? brows.gif
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QUOTE(gamers maniac @ May 18 2008, 12:13 AM)
u can try 1.6~1.7v if u dare.. and push it further brows.gif . i remember my venice i put 1.696v to achieve 2.8g but wif watercooled tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 18 2008, 12:14 AM)
He said edy 1.5V is his max Vcore lol = =.
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yeah
if i add the over volt, it can only go to 1.56v - 1.57

ahaha

okay
here's an update at 3.0ghz
super PI is stable
but havent started orthos/prime yet
mau tido
today morning heading to pahang

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Added on May 18, 2008, 1:54 amwill try 3.1-3.2 tonite
ehehe

i think 3.1/3.2 shud be max cuz at 3.0 and more volts, (i reduced the max volt from +200mv to +100mv and now stable at super pi) heat already 55
haha

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post May 18 2008, 07:53 AM

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i still dunno why orthos and prime failed and super pi stable at 3.0 ghz

200fsb x 15multiplier
ram at 166mhz
vcore at 1.45
temp - idle 48 load 52

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post May 19 2008, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 18 2008, 08:47 AM)
make 1.5V
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QUOTE(joe_star @ May 18 2008, 09:35 AM)
Which test do you use? Small FFT or Blend? Hmm.....since orthos and prime dont work, why not try using the stress test built into Everest software? OH yea.....and try running hyperpi dual superpi test. I have a feeling both the cores are not stable at full load. A friend had a similar problem with toledo 4800+ lastime.


Added on May 18, 2008, 9:37 am
Better have VERY good air cooling for that. TDP of FX-60 is 110W, not like AM2 procs which are mostly 65W tongue.gif
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now its sedap
prime is already running without fail
so it should be ok
wat i did was i had to diminish a bit of the FSB - now its 207 x 14.5
the VCORE is still at max
look at the pics
is the vcore ok?
i mean Hyper PI is ok but couldn't take the pics yet
will do it again when i tido whistling.gif
but the temps are really good arent they
its too bad that this is an old CPU blush.gif blush.gif

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Added on May 19, 2008, 1:55 amoh and anywhere near 3.8 or 3.1, its either nothing is stable and/or BSOD
or windows wont boot (pc will POST though)
3.2 ghz, pc wont POST

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post May 19 2008, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ May 19 2008, 09:35 AM)
Nice temps, but try running prime for at least 1 hour+. If it doesnt fail in less than 5 mins, then it might fail at 30-40 mins, or the next fail point i usually encounter is 2 hours.

Yah bro......but 3.0ghz on X2 is good whether new or old proc rclxms.gif
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its not X2
but its using the same core although some X2 is manchester
my core is the same with some 3800+
but mostly 4800+ and 4600+
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post May 19 2008, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 19 2008, 02:17 PM)
Yours Single Core FX?When AMD Phenom FX out u wanna try again? tongue.gif
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mine is dual core FX
the only one in s939
im already satisfied with 3.0ghz now
thinking of lowering it back at stock
haha
i dont like it my cpu kena voltage too high just to add some mhz
oh well

plus the diff tak banyak sangat on games anyway
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post May 20 2008, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 19 2008, 03:04 PM)
I think its causes by the Ram jo..
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QUOTE(ktek @ May 19 2008, 03:22 PM)
gtoforce, it's time to tweak RAM brows.gif
otherwise i rather to use stock 2.6GHz speed if no improvement.
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QUOTE(joe_star @ May 19 2008, 07:13 PM)
@ktek
DDR ram la bro. But actually it can be optimized for sub 30 sec.

@TS
I'm refering to my experience with procs in general, in my experience they seem to fail at those intervals. Ive experience it with both intel and amd socket 939 and AM2
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i need advice on the timings dude
ddr1 mau OC i dunno the timings...
rite now its Attached Image


Added on May 20, 2008, 1:32 amim not sitting back at stock
im using 2.95 ghz cuz its the most stable currently
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post May 20 2008, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ May 20 2008, 09:34 AM)
For best benchmark results, take out 1 stick of ram and operate with dual channel. Hmm.....what divider are you using? I'm not sure about your mobo chipset but with nforce4 lastime the memory and cpu htt used to be linked, so oc-ing ram was similar to an intel system. Try to get the ram stable at around DDR400, and also use CL=2 and CR=1T. Dont be afraid to increase volage a lil, but not too much also la.
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will try tonite
but how do i check the divider?
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