QUOTE(ch_teo @ Nov 25 2010, 01:11 PM)
IEM Southern Branch, you may try to put your address at JB, then any updates/seminars, they will notify you.
http://www.iemsb.org.my/nicvoo has mentioned lot of things happening at site from RE's point.
Lot of RE handles C&S + M&E, depends on project scale.
Sometimes, C&S RE with Ir. at site will hand-sketch modify the drawings from HQ consultant & implement at site. He will sign the modify drawings & feedback to HQ (the designer) due to impracticable design.
That is one of the many reasons I left consultant after 3 years plus in M&E (2.5 years design experience at M side from high rise building to infra [prepare tender doc, plumbing, sanitary, lift + escalator, natural gas, ACMV, fire protection, T&C, SAT], 7 months plus full time based at site as inspector) & join oil & gas.
Just for your info, my knowledge is slightly better than a Ir. when i joined a consultant company last time. Even 1 of my seniors without Ir. far far better than a Ir. Not boosting, it is a realization when discussing design & actual practicability come to site implementation & construction stages, tender document...there are lot of things happening at site, it is not like design in office.
The value of Ir. for me is??? Unless you join back consultant firm.
Singapore with Er. is very lucrative if as part time & as 3rd party inspector/certificator but the "heavy responsibilities" are there in case unlucky events happened, touch wood...
yes many experienced ppl b better then IRs or ERs y they dont take the IR title? simple they dont wan to wake up 1 morning n get sued.
QUOTE(kl87 @ Nov 25 2010, 01:36 PM)
yes, u r right , i have too little exp in this field, maybe work for few years then i can know the reality ....haiz

seems like i really have to rethink my path of career.
p/s: just few weeks in work , dun be too harsh on me la
advice and helps noticed. thx a lot ~
well tats y i say i dont blame u i've seen many who r like u amongst my colleagues and friend they think getting an IR title means they will b highly paid n can goyang kaki. the truth is totally opposite. worst still in sg where if u get an IR n dont wanna sign cos dont wanna take the responsibility the authorities will revoke your title. especially for FIRE designs
QUOTE(feekle @ Nov 25 2010, 01:39 PM)
U are right dude...no future of being 'high pay' become civil engineer in malaysia..become kuli...the only path is to become contractor & sogok here & there & become rich..
yes tats the truth but you always have the choice to take or not to
QUOTE(afosz @ Nov 25 2010, 01:50 PM)
That's the 'side income' or 'undertable envelope' but let's not get too detail about it, shall we ? Although we all know that is the reality.
Ir title is required, especially in civil. You get the respect, and the pay. To earn one is not as easy as it sounds like. Most people I know with Ir are from civil. Once I met an Ir but he's from electrical, I thought "What, electrical can get Ir too ?" and that is the first time I know Ir for engineers for all fields, not particularly on civil, but for civil, it is something like a must get title.
only in the construction industry Irs are required. Mech Elec n Civil
the a Qualified person is required to endorse the design. u dont wan a switch board to blow up in your face do u?or getting a black out everytime thers a storm or during fire the spinkler system n exhaust dont work or a building to crack n collapse when u r in it right?