Now i'm as the Year 2 Diploma student from TARC. My course is Information System Engineering (ISE).

Now i'm blur to choose whether go for advance diploma at TARC or go for degree at UTAR.

Is it the advance diploma with the Campbell's degree / Top - Up program at UK better than UTARs' degree?

Please be kind & give me some advice!

Is it the UTAR will shift to Perak for all the courses? Which is the Petaling Jaya UTAR is don't have any intake by this May 08?

I am from Foundation studies May 2007 intake. My degree is BIS starting on May 2008 in UTAR. I am in Stream C so ALL of my course mates, no matter is from BIS, ISE, CS, etc. will all be in UTAR Kampar. Except Actuarial Science will be held in Kampar on 2009. So they have to stay here in PJ for 1 year then only shift to Kampar for the next 2 years in degree. But I confirm that all IT courses will be held in Kampar except Computer Networking, Acturial Science and etc. ISE will be in Kampar, so there won't be any May intake of ISE in PJ. That's all I know. Hope it helps?

Thanks for your information! But now im confuse whether want choose the Advance Diploma or UTAR..... If i using my Diploma qualification to apply at UTAR... i'll go for Year 2 already... Don't know PJ UTAR have this course or not...

for me, I will go UTAR. A degree always better than advance diploma. no offence alright? but degree will have to be done in kampar.

But advance diploma also provide the degree status.... the Campbell or the UK top up programs which define as the degree status from their University!

if u r an employer and u got 2 application of undergrads. 1 from local and another from overseas degree ..which one do u choose? lol

But i heard my friends said... the two university at UK is just like the politeknik at malaysia standard at their country which is compare to other...

If the employer choose the 3 month top up degree rather the UTAR 1, then I'll say he is plain stupid and dumb.

But advance diploma is quite though than UTAR's degree.... Advance diploma is convert as degree by the 3 month top up!

My advice is, if you got the money then go for the topup degree, but don't expect it give you advantage in job hunting(at least for smart employer). Because at the same time, you can travel around europe. But if you dont have the money, go for UTAR degree.

oh really? have u checked the modules in Ktar and Utar for the same course? ..which one covers more modules?
for me as an employer of course i wan a grad that has more knowledge even though the employer will send u for training for the company.
<removed-no need to insult/attack other members> no offense here but the truth in malaysia is that they give higher marks for those who have went out overseas as u have more experience and see the world more ...

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Apr 11 2008, 07:50 AM

I'm also plan like that because it can be travel arround... if got lucks... can work at there to earn back the tution fees...

Is it that Campbell degree and the UK top up degree are certified by the JPA or LAN in Malaysia for my course? UTAR also will be the same?

Atcually i quite scare for the expenses at Setapak there. The rent also high.... Now totally blur....

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Apr 11 2008, 07:50 AM

With 3 month top up degree, does it worth it, do you get enough experience, does traveling around europe(see the world more) related to the jobs. Go ask yourself. I'm not talking about the modules cover in advanced diploma.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Apr 11 2008, 07:51 AM

UTAR degree aint easy.. lol.. who give u information.. every sem all student get 4.0 meh.. i still think degree is better.. And you'll have to do it in kampar.. I wish i could go there too.. studying in KL waste lots of moneh.. in kampar rental oso damn cheap

But i think at least i can travel around & gain some experience at there. I must make sure my parent whether able to allow me do so or not....

Not so sure.... but my senior giving me some comment on it because some of them are TARC & UTAR. The problem is now... i also study at kampar for 2 years already.... I will be nuts for this bored city... Some more the intake at kampar is Jan 2009.... The rest of 6 months after i graduate i works as sleepy human?

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Added on April 11, 2008, 4:26 amBut i think at least i can travel around & gain some experience at there. I must make sure my parent whether able to allow me do so or not....

Not so sure.... but my senior giving me some comment on it because some of them are TARC & UTAR. The problem is now... i also study at kampar for 2 years already.... I will be nuts for this bored city... Some more the intake at kampar is Jan 2009.... The rest of 6 months after i graduate i works as sleepy human?

This post has been edited by jtcs87: Apr 11 2008, 04:26 AM

dont go campell laaa
employer wouldnt increase ur salary if u r from campell

because most of them will think
campell = tarc

unless u study at campell for 3 years(no point also)

Campbell at tarc is the external paper exam only, but it will convert your advance diploma to the degree. Why not good?

30k for 3 months
better go monash or nottingham malaysia for 1 years la

This post has been edited by Oakha: Apr 11 2008, 12:14 PM

Now i jz prefer to choose TARC advance diploma or UTAR degree only. Other University's content is good for my course also?

if you need loan from PTPTN, you gotta choose UTAR coz advanced dip. does not qualify for ptptn loan.

I got ask the TARC's staff about the advance diploma also able to get for the PTPTN loan...

hello jtcs87, i'm year 2 ISE student from TARC too.
kinda fed up with TARC, planning to another college (unsure yet) after get the diploma.

My friends all will going for the Advance Diploma.... but i'm just planning go for the UTAR.... but need to wait until Jan 2009....

Utar is good by providing you a degree. But the passing level for the UTAR very high, many student find their death in UTAR as well.

And kampar might not as good as ppl said. Firstly, the living cost is as high as KL. What the heck, how come a rural area can so expensive.

Kampar UTAR lack of quality lecturer as well. fee high, but you cant get what u expected.

Think twice before you choose. My advice, ask parent. so that, if one day u regret. u still can blame your parents

U told you the Kampar expenses is high as KL.... I'm the one who stay at there....

My parent just follow my decision only..... just want get more advice & opinion only!

adv dip ptptn loan will be RM13.5k

y fedup? ... got bullied by ur coursemates? i am in BIS and doing good here

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Added on April 12, 2008, 1:40 amall i know is rental over there is way cheaper than KL but makan expenses are the same as KL ... thats wat my ex-school mates told me ...

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Added on April 12, 2008, 1:44 amfor me the 3 months is quite worth it. not many ppl can afford a few years study overseas. it does relate to the job as different country as different kind of working system and education system. go ask urself, if every country has the same working system then Indonesia is same as USA d lo?

This post has been edited by alvinz: Apr 12 2008, 01:44 AM

Thats why i'm thinking whether study at TARC will i get the better way for my career in future? Quite hard to accept the rent at Setapak there!

Try to get MMU if TARC cannot

MMU's fees is quite high! If like that i prefer go for UTAR better!

If i going to UTAR, i need to wait until Jan 2009 intake. During that time, the PTPTN will call me to pay back the loan?

Why need to wait ? You graduating this May izzit? Herm, IIANM you can appeal to study first, then show them all your result and transcipt later. Try to enquire this from UTAR Faculty Office.

Because my course is need to be wait for the Jan 2009 intake at kampar! PJ that UTAR is not going for the intake at May!

Oh I see. 6 months is a hard wait. I understand. Maybe you can opt for other uni/college, or maybe you can work for 6 months before you continue your study again lor.

The "big move" from PJ/Sungai Long/Setapak to Kampar takes time. Even me also have to help out my lecturer to get stuff sorted and send it to Kampar Campus.

This post has been edited by Akane: Apr 15 2008, 12:50 AM

Do you even have to stoop this low to blame UTAR ?

Now i also thinking with that to work awhile or i go for advance diploma only.

wat are u thinking?
campbell university provide exam paper for few course in TARC school of art and science, the standard is a USA degree. Salary not depends which u come from TARC or watever but your contribution and performance

trust me la no difference one la. Ktar advance diploma more hectic and no time to lepak but Utar more time to lepak.

but when come outto work no difference one la. plus campbell degree here is consider u only graduate diploma cause american degree not recognized.

but to me really got no difference one. i from Utar i work my pay 3500 my friend work he from Ktar also 3500.
so no difference one la.

only difference is what is ur impression to your employers. and you have fun during colleage days

Some said nothing different, some said aren't... I also blurr with that!

i put it simple la.

KTAR
very hectic, longer class hours, shorter time, no time to lepak and relax, If you fail mid term wont affect your finals that much cause attendance and other crap like labs and stuff are counted in the 20%.
no Uni experience lo. No degree(campbell dont count as a degree JMU is a friggin shoplot and sheffield hallam is a disgrace) and even if u go overseas the total will come out more expensive than go UTAR
Utar
Longer time, Got one friggin 3 month holiday(FES),more lepak,more coursework, u ponteng 4 times u straight barred, if u fail mid term ur finals also die. labs are a seperate subject so reports are very important.Uni experience lo



so issit easier to decide now.
but the bottom line is when u graduate there is no difference lo.
but what i think UTAR graduation sucks cause in wisma MCA
cant really take picture clearly and ppl scattered all over

The problem is i need to wait for 6 months for it.....

P/S: Uni exp got what kind of benefits?

This post has been edited by jtcs87: Apr 15 2008, 04:20 PM

wait 6 months for what?

Uni experience? nothing much la. got name as uni student lo. hahaha not consider collage student anymore.

tell you la. make up ur mind to where u wanna go then understand the why. dun keep thinking cause where ever u go Ktar or Utar still the same for ISE.
if accounting got big difference la.

ISE is in pj campus if i not mistaken. the food there is very expensive lo and so is the accomodation and very jammed all the time.but in future if u graduate still in PJ find work is very easy ma. in wangsa maju here not much job can find one. very limited. and area for jobs are far far away but food is cheap and accomodation is cheap lo.

dont worry la where ever you go there are stll pro's and con's

just think of what you really want lo

PJ UTAR don't have intake at May 08. There force us go to UTAR Kampar there at Jan 2009. The 6 months i'll be nuts!!!!!!!!

oh. hahahahah then i dunno lo.
maybe 6 months can rest or do part time job or if u got resit(choi~!!) can clear the papers

hahaha

If got resit paper i sure go UTAR already. No choice! But i perhaps i wont get any resit paper & graduate my diploma by successfully!

stay in KTAR only la then. since they moving to kampar.
in kampar quite dead and its kinda hot there. but if u from northern part of malaysia go ahead lo.

but like i said. graduate where also no difference one.

i spent my diploma at Kampar also... I really don't want stay at here already! Nuts!!!!

why diploma in kampar one?
weird.

issit the small Ktar complex tehre. hahaha
kesian

No choice! My parent call me go for TARC at kampar!

I really don't want stay at Kampar already! This is a dumb bored city...

The live expenses quite same with KL already except the rent.

You are from KL and studying in Kampar ?

Nope. I'm from Ipoh....

WAIT.. i tot utar wont have any resit paper liao?

I means my diploma wont get any resit paper la... Not utar!

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. my badd

now is my last sem.... very scare!!!

Does anyone know about the UTAR & TARC content will be same for my course?

Ya, advance diploma is more hard than Utar Degree as i know. Dont worry, which decision u made also can success, depends on whether u got heart to study and get a good result or not.

Ya... Totally agree... I'm still think why the UTAR don't open for Y2 degree course at PJ there... I'm study at there also can right since the Y1 student will promote to there!

Just go for TARC lo, harder means u can learn more there. It is good for ur future. TARC advance diploma /external paper standard not bad 1.

the adv dip n ext paper is a killer for some ppl,
it literally means u have to study all the parts in a subject, and to sit for the exams (both) in the same day....
so tarc has my vote,
only thing bout UTAR is they have pulled most goo lecturer from tarc to there....

u have to study all the parts in a subject means u can almost master all the part of the subject. That y u learn more thing and ur skill has been greatly improved

I have no idea. What i know is working experience is very important.

If for me ,i will take diploma first.

Oh.... But i scare i can't survive for it!

Now i'm almost finish my diploma already!

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Added on May 4, 2008, 7:35 pmJust finish my exam only. Now very tension if i fail any subject & cause me can't graduate my diploma!

This post has been edited by jtcs87: May 4 2008, 07:35 PM

go utar la utar nice la

Don't know yet. Now i need to wait for the result first.

If fail the semester 2 subject, then i can't go apply for the UTAR Jan intake already!

ts ... im having a same dilemma like u

but im a biz admin student ...

do u know the intake for biz course @ utar ? issit january too ?

Didn't ask for other course. Sorry! But if not mistaken it will be at Jan 2009 intake!

campell (3month degree) is not much different from UTAR for local employer unless u decided to work abroad

This post has been edited by stupiak07: May 5 2008, 02:59 AM