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post Apr 10 2008, 10:21 PM, updated 18y ago

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Now i'm as the Year 2 Diploma student from TARC. My course is Information System Engineering (ISE).

Now i'm blur to choose whether go for advance diploma at TARC or go for degree at UTAR.

Is it the advance diploma with the Campbell's degree / Top - Up program at UK better than UTARs' degree?

Please be kind & give me some advice! thumbup.gif

Is it the UTAR will shift to Perak for all the courses? Which is the Petaling Jaya UTAR is don't have any intake by this May 08?


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post Apr 11 2008, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(sevenheaven @ Apr 10 2008, 11:54 PM)
I am from Foundation studies May 2007 intake. My degree is BIS starting on May 2008 in UTAR. I am in Stream C so ALL of my course mates, no matter is from BIS, ISE, CS, etc. will all be in UTAR Kampar. Except Actuarial Science will be held in Kampar on 2009. So they have to stay here in PJ for 1 year then only shift to Kampar for the next 2 years in degree. But I confirm that all IT courses will be held in Kampar except Computer Networking, Acturial Science and etc. ISE will be in Kampar, so there won't be any May intake of ISE in PJ. That's all I know. Hope it helps?
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Thanks for your information! But now im confuse whether want choose the Advance Diploma or UTAR..... If i using my Diploma qualification to apply at UTAR... i'll go for Year 2 already... Don't know PJ UTAR have this course or not...
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post Apr 11 2008, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(sevenheaven @ Apr 11 2008, 01:19 AM)
for me, I will go UTAR. A degree always better than advance diploma. no offence alright? but degree will have to be done in kampar.
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But advance diploma also provide the degree status.... the Campbell or the UK top up programs which define as the degree status from their University! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(alvinz @ Apr 11 2008, 02:43 AM)
if u r an employer and u got 2 application of undergrads. 1 from local and another from overseas degree ..which one do u choose? lol
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But i heard my friends said... the two university at UK is just like the politeknik at malaysia standard at their country which is compare to other... sweat.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(kockroach @ Apr 11 2008, 03:05 AM)
If the employer choose the 3 month top up degree rather the UTAR 1, then I'll say he is plain stupid and dumb.
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But advance diploma is quite though than UTAR's degree.... sweat.gif Advance diploma is convert as degree by the 3 month top up! whistling.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 03:32 AM

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QUOTE(kockroach @ Apr 11 2008, 03:13 AM)
My advice is, if you got the money then go for the topup degree, but don't expect it give you advantage in job hunting(at least for smart employer). Because at the same time, you can travel around europe. But if you dont have the money, go for UTAR degree.
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QUOTE(alvinz @ Apr 11 2008, 03:15 AM)
oh really? have u checked the modules in Ktar and Utar for the same course? ..which one covers more modules?
for me as an employer of course i wan a grad that has more knowledge even though the employer will send u for training for the company.
<removed-no need to insult/attack other members> no offense here but the truth in malaysia is that they give higher marks for those who have went out overseas as u have more experience and see the world more ...
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I'm also plan like that because it can be travel arround... if got lucks... can work at there to earn back the tution fees... thumbup.gif

Is it that Campbell degree and the UK top up degree are certified by the JPA or LAN in Malaysia for my course? UTAR also will be the same?

Atcually i quite scare for the expenses at Setapak there. The rent also high.... Now totally blur....

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Apr 11 2008, 07:50 AM
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post Apr 11 2008, 04:11 AM

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QUOTE(kockroach @ Apr 11 2008, 03:42 AM)
With 3 month top up degree, does it worth it, do you get enough experience, does traveling around europe(see the world more) related to the jobs. Go ask yourself. I'm not talking about the modules cover in advanced diploma.
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But i think at least i can travel around & gain some experience at there. whistling.gif I must make sure my parent whether able to allow me do so or not.... rclxub.gif

QUOTE(Pmc @ Apr 11 2008, 03:57 AM)
UTAR degree aint easy.. lol.. who give u information.. every sem all student get 4.0 meh.. i still think degree is better.. And you'll have to do it in kampar.. I wish i could go there too.. studying in KL waste lots of moneh.. in kampar rental oso damn cheap  sweat.gif
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Not so sure.... but my senior giving me some comment on it because some of them are TARC & UTAR. The problem is now... i also study at kampar for 2 years already.... I will be nuts for this bored city... Some more the intake at kampar is Jan 2009.... The rest of 6 months after i graduate i works as sleepy human? whistling.gif


Added on April 11, 2008, 4:26 am
QUOTE(kockroach @ Apr 11 2008, 03:42 AM)
With 3 month top up degree, does it worth it, do you get enough experience, does traveling around europe(see the world more) related to the jobs. Go ask yourself. I'm not talking about the modules cover in advanced diploma.
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But i think at least i can travel around & gain some experience at there. whistling.gif I must make sure my parent whether able to allow me do so or not.... rclxub.gif

QUOTE(Pmc @ Apr 11 2008, 03:57 AM)
UTAR degree aint easy.. lol.. who give u information.. every sem all student get 4.0 meh.. i still think degree is better.. And you'll have to do it in kampar.. I wish i could go there too.. studying in KL waste lots of moneh.. in kampar rental oso damn cheap  sweat.gif
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Not so sure.... but my senior giving me some comment on it because some of them are TARC & UTAR. The problem is now... i also study at kampar for 2 years already.... I will be nuts for this bored city... Some more the intake at kampar is Jan 2009.... The rest of 6 months after i graduate i works as sleepy human? whistling.gif

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post Apr 11 2008, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Oakha @ Apr 11 2008, 10:22 AM)
dont go campell laaa
employer wouldnt increase ur salary if u r from campell

because most of them will think
campell = tarc

unless u study at campell for 3 years(no point also)
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Campbell at tarc is the external paper exam only, but it will convert your advance diploma to the degree. Why not good?
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post Apr 11 2008, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Oakha @ Apr 11 2008, 12:14 PM)
30k for 3 months
better go monash or nottingham malaysia for 1 years la
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Now i jz prefer to choose TARC advance diploma or UTAR degree only. Other University's content is good for my course also? whistling.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(keane04 @ Apr 11 2008, 04:24 PM)
if you need loan from PTPTN, you gotta choose UTAR coz advanced dip. does not qualify for ptptn loan.
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I got ask the TARC's staff about the advance diploma also able to get for the PTPTN loan... rclxub.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 11 2008, 06:36 PM)
hello jtcs87, i'm year 2 ISE student from TARC too.
kinda fed up with TARC, planning to another college (unsure yet) after get the diploma.
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My friends all will going for the Advance Diploma.... but i'm just planning go for the UTAR.... but need to wait until Jan 2009.... sweat.gif
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post Apr 12 2008, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(mphpopular @ Apr 12 2008, 12:11 AM)
Utar is good by providing you a degree. But the passing level for the UTAR very high, many student find their death in UTAR as well.

And kampar might not as good as ppl said. Firstly, the living cost is as high as KL. What the heck, how come a rural area can so expensive.

Kampar UTAR lack of quality lecturer as well. fee high, but you cant get what u expected.

Think twice before you choose. My advice, ask parent. so that, if one day u regret. u still can blame your parents
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U told you the Kampar expenses is high as KL.... I'm the one who stay at there.... vmad.gif

My parent just follow my decision only..... just want get more advice & opinion only!
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post Apr 12 2008, 03:01 AM

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Thats why i'm thinking whether study at TARC will i get the better way for my career in future? Quite hard to accept the rent at Setapak there! cry.gif
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post Apr 12 2008, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(DragonMebius @ Apr 12 2008, 08:59 AM)
Try to get MMU if TARC cannot
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MMU's fees is quite high! If like that i prefer go for UTAR better! whistling.gif
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post Apr 14 2008, 11:23 PM

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If i going to UTAR, i need to wait until Jan 2009 intake. During that time, the PTPTN will call me to pay back the loan?
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post Apr 15 2008, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(Akane @ Apr 15 2008, 12:11 AM)
Why need to wait ? You graduating this May izzit?  Herm, IIANM you can appeal to study first, then show them all your result and transcipt later. Try to enquire this from UTAR Faculty Office.
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Because my course is need to be wait for the Jan 2009 intake at kampar! rclxub.gif PJ that UTAR is not going for the intake at May! cry.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Akane @ Apr 15 2008, 12:49 AM)
Oh I see. 6 months is a hard wait. I understand. Maybe you can opt for other uni/college, or maybe you can work for 6 months before you continue your study again lor.

The "big move" from PJ/Sungai Long/Setapak to Kampar takes time. Even me also have to help out my lecturer to get stuff sorted and send it to Kampar Campus.
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Now i also thinking with that to work awhile or i go for advance diploma only. whistling.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 04:09 PM

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Some said nothing different, some said aren't... I also blurr with that! rclxub.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(selenium @ Apr 15 2008, 04:16 PM)
i put it simple la.

KTAR
very hectic, longer class hours, shorter time, no time to lepak and relax, If you fail mid term wont affect your finals that much cause attendance and other crap like labs and stuff are counted in the 20%.
no Uni experience lo. No degree(campbell dont count as a degree JMU is a friggin shoplot and sheffield hallam is a disgrace) and even if u go overseas the total will come out more expensive than go UTAR
Utar
Longer time, Got one friggin 3 month holiday(FES),more lepak,more coursework, u ponteng 4 times u straight barred, if u fail mid term ur finals also die. labs are a seperate subject so reports are very important.Uni experience lo
so issit easier to decide now.
but the bottom line is when u graduate there is no difference lo.
but what i think UTAR graduation sucks cause in wisma MCA
cant really take picture clearly and ppl scattered all over
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The problem is i need to wait for 6 months for it..... rclxub.gif

P/S: Uni exp got what kind of benefits? whistling.gif

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post Apr 15 2008, 04:34 PM

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PJ UTAR don't have intake at May 08. There force us go to UTAR Kampar there at Jan 2009. rclxub.gif The 6 months i'll be nuts!!!!!!!!

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