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 ASB loan, worth to get it???

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post Jan 14 2014, 05:22 PM

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Im still thinking wanna take loan for ASB or not. As one of participating bank for ASB I can get staff loan of BLR-2%. Do u think it is worth it?
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post Jan 14 2014, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(luqe @ Jan 14 2014, 05:49 PM)
If take asb loan, choose the bank with the lowest interest rate. asb is a win-win situation. u win bank win. If bank offer lower interest, u win bigger smile.gif
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The reason is that i can save up to 1.8k per month and once I finished off my credit card payment the savings would be 2.6k. Is it worth it for me to take the loan or I should save myself 2.6k per month?

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post Jan 14 2014, 06:46 PM

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If I wanna take loan also I will take 25 years. Plan to take 50k 1st as it is not a burden and all I need to pay is around RM281. If got salary increment then do another 50k loan. The total is RM562. I still got around RM2.1k savings for any emergency use.

My plan is not to take out any of the dividen and let it grow say about 10 years and terminate the loan.

But then it is still in planning stage as I need more input. Plus I wanna take the advantage of BLR - 2%.
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Jan 14 2014, 07:19 PM)
wow, blr-2. i'm impressed. which bank is it?  tongue.gif

if i were you, there's no doubt that asb loan is way better.

Read my post in my blog and you'll understand. it's an old blog though, but should be alright.
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Staff loan bro.. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 15 2014, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(masami @ Jan 14 2014, 10:39 PM)
assuming all the calculation are right..i dont think u are doing it right with the loan
the thing is..for loan u hv to leverage as far as u can
take the highest amount ie..200k and longest tenure 25 years or 30 for cimb.
u dont hv to serve the whole tenure..preferably 2-5 years..then terminate.. u will get ur principal portion of ur loan back

why u must terminate..to get the principal works harder rather than staying dormant in tht acc of yours.
not only that..normally u will fork out around 14300-15000 yearly for monthly payment..but u will get around 15600 from the 200k div..here u get extra 1k-1.5k.

all in all asb loan is wayyyyy better.
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Just dont get the part why we must terminate the loan. Mind to explain more.

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post Jan 16 2014, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(MonkeyDSoul @ Jan 16 2014, 12:08 AM)
Actually you don't really need to terminate if you're able to pay throughout your tenure. Of course, not cancelling will definitely end up with you getting more and more cash. But are you willing to wait 25-30 years? You'll be 40-50 years old by then and what are you going to spend it on?

Some people terminate because they plan to generate money short term (eg 3~5 years). If you take 200k loan ASB and terminate after 3 years, you can easily get approximately 70k. Terminate after 5 years, you can get around 125k. Then, you can use the money for many things you desire. Only have to be patient for short while.

No matter which method you want to apply, it is still more profitable than saving using own money. This is provided you take max tenure (25 or 30 years).  rclxms.gif
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I gonna treat this ASB as my passive income when I retire. At least I got "pencen" from some organization.

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post Jan 25 2014, 08:15 PM

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For me I will continue pay the loan amount as long as I can so that the money can grow and grow. By terminating the loan and taking another loan, must also calculate the insurance amount involved.

By the way, i'm not looking into ROI. I'm doing this to get greater compounding dividen and bonus.
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post Jan 26 2014, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 26 2014, 12:36 AM)
Investing In Amanah Saham via Personal Loan, should you or should you not?
various scenarios explained.....may not be agreeable to some....

http://invest-made-easy.blogspot.com/2013/...a-personal.html
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This is what I'm doing at the moment..

Results from our calculation:
Scenario 1 (Using own cash to service your personal loan for investment in ASB)
1. You service your personal loan using own cash on a monthly basis.
2. ASB Dividend Payout is reinvested for the next 20 years

Calculation:
1. Loan amount + interest paid : RM658 x 20 years x 12 months = RM157,920
2. Investment value in ASB after 20 years : RM492,380.28
3. Net Profit in 20 years (Item 2 - Item 1) : RM492,380.28 - RM157,920 = RM334,460.25*
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post Jan 26 2014, 11:17 PM

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I am looking for longer term result. Since i get BLR-2% so plan to keep it. I also don't know how long im gonna work with this bank.. smile.gif
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post Jan 30 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Jan 30 2014, 03:58 PM)
Yes..before this I didn't see in big picture. Aftet I get it, it's better with asb loan. More ROI
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me tooo... biggrin.gif

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post Sep 17 2014, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(Ziax @ Sep 17 2014, 02:14 PM)
I have an enquiry.

Currently, I'm taking 100k loan for 25 years. I have been paying rm600/month for the past 2 years. I have used the dividend i got from first year to pay for the 2nd year instalment.

I was wondering what if I stop the loan financing? Do I get the sum that I have been paying for the past 2 years?
I was told by Maybank staff , I wouldn't get back the amount paid to the bank.
But if I pay full for 25 years, I would get 100K?

I'm a bit confused. what if that person decided to stop the financing 12.5 years after taking up the loan? He wouldn't get 50k?
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There is no such thing as you won't get a thing. When you pay monthly, you are paying interest and principal. So where does this principal goes? The officer is cheating you.

Try this way, you mentioned to the officer that you want to cancel the loan and increase it to certain amount. You would like to get refund for the current loan or else you'll refer to another officer. Sure the officer will help you one.

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post Oct 6 2014, 11:22 AM

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I got special staff rate of BLR - 2% for ASB loan.
As for housing loan, it is BLR - 4%. Based on agreement, there is no such thing as need to work for 5 years or 30 years. You pay off, you can resign from the bank. Simple as that.

And I'm not from Yellow Bank. smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 6 2014, 01:10 PM)
veli good offer by the bank  rclxms.gif  menjaga kebajikan pekerja  laugh.gif
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in terms of benefit yes. smile.gif but in terms of work-wise no. sad.gif

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post Oct 7 2014, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 7 2014, 09:38 PM)
This is lovely. Thank you for responding first-handed smile.gif

May I know if the special rate applicable only for the staff or included to husband/wife/family as well?

By your statement above, meaning that there will be no "work till year 5 to enjoy the privilege"? Once hired, the special rate is available?

Thank you again in advance.
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Only for the staff.. Once you become confirmed staff, you can enjoy the benefit.
As for ASB loan, even after u left the bank, u still enjoy the staff rate as i opt for own payment method instead of salary deduction.

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post Oct 7 2014, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 7 2014, 09:51 PM)
If I am not mistaken, you can't made an early settlement.

Based on my understanding, for example;

30k loan @ 25 years = RM 285/month= RM 85,500

Even if you are ready to settle within 10 years for example, you still need to clear the total of RM 85,500. Hence, there is no use in early settlement.
Kindly correct me if I am wrong notworthy.gif
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ASB loan work differently. It is not you borrow 100k, you must pay 100k. As at any time you can terminate the loan. Whatever excess in principal payment will be refunded thru your book.

For e.g say I took 100k ASB loan for 25 years. After 2 years, I plan to terminate it. I still can get around 1k plus 2 years dividen refunded into my book.
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post Oct 8 2014, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 8 2014, 07:42 AM)
Hi,

1 - By that, its mean by understanding is wrong because I am talking about early settlement while you and masami talk about terminating the loan?

2 - So for example in case of 30k @ 25 years = RM 185/month;

If the customer already PAID for example 3 years (RM 185x12x3 = RM 6,600, dividend 8.0 p/a), meaning after 3 years if the customer terminate the loan, he will get approximately RM 6,600 + (dividend x 3 years) in his account?
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The RM185 will go to principal and interest payment. So you only get the principal payment.
If you want for early termination, there is another technique doing it.

This is just an example. You take 100k LASB for 25 years but spilt into 5 cert (20k each).
Every 3 years you buy back 1 cert with the dividen money (RM6500 x 3 years = RM19500)
Instead of waiting 25 years to get the cert, you'll get 100k cert in say 10-12 years.

A friend of mine doing this technique and he already bought 2 cert.
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Oct 8 2014, 12:59 PM)
When the basic concept is simple enough, it is worthwhile to keep things simple and straightforward. When you're on a straight road, why keep twisting and turning the steering? Tyres no balance ah?

If the asb loan can more or less provide leverage (ie. interest paid is lower or equal than the dividends earned) then get as much loan as you can possibly get... and this is usually with the longest possible tenure with the lowest monthly installment you can pay.

If there's still extra savings left after expenditure every month, then get more asb loan. Simple.

Unless of course, if you have already touch the ceiling of 200k, and cannot take any more loan and cannot invest more into asb, then settle the loans with the extra savings.

The 2nd basic thing to keep in mind is 'compounding of interest'. This is the reason why one should begin investing as soon as possible. If you can start with a large amount, better still. (Be it from loan, or own savings, it does not matter. But if there's leverage with a loan... then get the loan to start off with a bigger amount.)

With a return of 7-9%, 'compounding of interest' will double the initial invested amount every 8-10 years. 100 becomes 200 in 8-10 years. It is 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 times... in 56-70 years. So if you delay in starting the investment, it is not delaying the investment in a number of years or so, but cutting off the last number of times that you can double the investment. And the difference is huge... say 16 times instead of 64 times.

And of course, to have this compounding interest effect, you don't take out the dividends.

You don't pay the monthly installments with any dividend, but out of your salary. So it's back to "take as much loan as you can possible get with your monthly budget". Simple.
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different people with different needs. everyone got their own style on how to invest.
if investment is as easy as ABC, everyone becomes a millionaire in MY.

there is a saying, same is lame. smile.gif


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post Oct 8 2014, 01:21 PM

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below is an example of how you can manipulate ASB to buy car.
at the end of the day, for RM500, i'll have both ASB savings and car instead of only car.

even you can pay off your car loan quickly by terminating the loan.
as i mentioned, different people different needs.

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post Oct 10 2014, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 10 2014, 11:05 AM)
spot on. I was thinking the same, but was2 if that's the answer  tongue.gif
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biggrin.gif .. that is why u need to manipulate instead of taking the known path.


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post Oct 13 2014, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(croco_2002 @ Oct 13 2014, 10:54 PM)
Thanks for the tip. tongue.gif will try to take loan next week with your tip.just wondering whether bank will approve my application.
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They should approve.. The only problem is that you need to pay 5 diff loan.. If u got online accounts like maybank2u or cimbclicks then it is easier.. biggrin.gif

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