ASB loan, worth to get it???
ASB loan, worth to get it???
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Jan 3 2009, 08:41 PM
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what is this year divident? ..
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Jan 28 2009, 01:21 AM
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any one here has the information about repayment amount versus period for maybank/rhb/cimb??? mind to share? ..
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Jan 29 2009, 02:55 PM
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anybody know the rate for this loan from maybank/cimb/rhb? anybody have the monthly payment for this?
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Jan 29 2009, 03:06 PM
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let say maybank branch kl, the rate is 4.2%. If you go to other maybakn branch, say in johor, is the rate is still the same?
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Jun 21 2013, 09:01 AM
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ASB is a good option for bumi .. over the years, it never give divident below 7%. Most of them in 8-9% since last 10 years.
Based on my calculation (and realistic, 7% divident average for next 25 years), loan RM200k for 25 years will make you a millionaire once the loan finish. Of course, no withdrawal and keep paying +- RM1200/month (threat it as saving). Year Amount Dividen Amount After Dividen 1 200000.00 1.07 214000.00 2 214000.00 1.07 228980.00 3 228980.00 1.07 245008.60 4 245008.60 1.07 262159.20 5 262159.20 1.07 280510.35 6 280510.35 1.07 300146.07 7 300146.07 1.07 321156.30 8 321156.30 1.07 343637.24 9 343637.24 1.07 367691.84 10 367691.84 1.07 393430.27 11 393430.27 1.07 420970.39 12 420970.39 1.07 450438.32 13 450438.32 1.07 481969.00 14 481969.00 1.07 515706.83 15 515706.83 1.07 551806.31 16 551806.31 1.07 590432.75 17 590432.75 1.07 631763.04 18 631763.04 1.07 675986.46 19 675986.46 1.07 723305.51 20 723305.51 1.07 773936.89 21 773936.89 1.07 828112.47 22 828112.47 1.07 886080.35 23 886080.35 1.07 948105.97 24 948105.97 1.07 1014473.39 25 1014473.39 1.07 1085486.53 |
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Jun 24 2013, 09:21 AM
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Guys,
Can we see our ASB loan under Loan in Maybank2U? |
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Jun 24 2013, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(masami @ Jun 24 2013, 01:34 PM) i think what he meant was whether he can see his loan acc in his m2u under loan section..the answer to this is yes..i think as long as the loan is under our name and ic number whatever loan that we hv with maybnk will appear..at least mine is like tht. Cool .. Thanks bro .. and yes we can top up our asb acc thru m2u but we wouldnt be able to see the acc. i hv made a mistake of depositing some money into my asb acc only to be refunded the next few days not knowing tht i ve exceeded the amount. I signed my ASB loan about 10-11 days ago but still dont see under Loan Section in ASB .. |
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Jun 24 2013, 03:53 PM
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Jul 31 2013, 06:21 AM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jul 29 2013, 03:13 PM) so fast changing mind ... For me, ASB loan is good with this mindset: "susah susah dahulu, senang senang kemudian". Pay the loan for 1st year and wait for 24 years to get money. I have a tips not "too struggle" in first year. If you want to get ASB loan, mid year is always the best time to get it. Some wonder why? Answer is you actually pay half of monthly commitment but it takes one and half a year. Some wonder how? Pay monthly commitment with dividend in second year. Some still wonder how? My calculate is when apply in June 2013 and my first payment will be due in July. July-December 2013, you are earning dividend. I myself took 200k loan for 25 years and paying RM1190 monthly till December. In early January 2014, I will get dividend, say 8%, I will have RM8000. Use the dividend as monthly "subsidy". RM8000/12 = RM666 So, my payment on January-December 2014 that I USE MY OWN MONEY is: RM1190-RM666 = RM524! Based on record, January 2015 onwards till the rest of tenure, I spend RM0 of my own pocket and get RM200k at the end of tenure. Sounds a good deal? Definitely! ASB never fail to pay dividend at least 7-8% a year. Based on record for 20 years, we are pretty safe but anything can happen in the future. As for now, take the opportunity. Malay is a bit lucky in this country. If ASB open to non bumi, I guess, ASB will be fully subscribe in no time. |
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Aug 1 2013, 06:04 AM
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QUOTE(abcde90 @ Jul 31 2013, 07:03 PM) As far as I remember, ASB never fail paying at least 8% annually (dividend + bonus). To drop dividend below 5% in next few years is unlikely unless PNB doing really bad in their investment or economy turns to worse in history. So, for next few years, we are pretty safe based on current economy situation. Strategy? read next post. |
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Aug 1 2013, 06:21 AM
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QUOTE(nelanga @ Jul 31 2013, 10:37 PM) How about if blr raise..? Do we have plan b to avoid blr effect to lasb roi or revenue of dividen. If BLR raise to a new level, it will not be more than 1-2% to a total of 7.6% or 8.6%. With most bank offering ASB loan at BLR -1.6%, you are paying interest of 6% or 7% (if BLR really raised) which still positive cash flow compare to 20 years of ASB dividend data. I want to know olso.. Lets Makes thing the worse ever, BLR raise to 15%, with islamic loan, we are protected by maximum BLR (profit in islamic term) capped at 10.x%. With bank discount on BLR -1.6%, you are actually paying interest about 9%. Even worse, PNB doing bad and ASB dividend drop to FD level, 3.8% p.a, we are in negative cash flow at 5.2%. In terms of business point of view, losing 5.2% is nothing compare to potential profit 1400%! If the above scenario really happens and you don't like -ve cash-flow, you may always cancel your ASB loan and get your money back (as well as insurance you paid for and of course, pro rated). |
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Aug 1 2013, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(suadrif @ Aug 1 2013, 08:50 AM) i think u miscalculate one thing which is prorate. Mate,ASB dividen is distributed based on prorate. if u get your ASB loan certificate in the middle of june, u are actually gain 7% interest only for 6 months, not full dividend. its a rule of thumb for every bank and every financial institution. there's no way these companies will pay full amount. if your theory is really true, then the best way is to get the ASB loan certificate on November! u pay for 1 month for december and u get interest for RM200k in january RM8000 dividend I mentioned in previous post based on 6 months dividend for RM200k loan. RM200k x 8% dividend = RM16000/year. 6 months = RM8000. So, my theory is right but getting ASB loan on November is not a good idea. |
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Aug 3 2013, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Aug 3 2013, 12:54 AM) understood sir.. I did the same calculation and can settle loan within 8-10 years if no change on the current situation.i saw the compounding interest table, at 9th year.. dividend amount is ~200k (provided nvr touch the dividend).. should i withdraw this amount and settle the loan? or continue with loan? settle loan = monthly no need to pay = vested amount ~200k do not settle loan = monthly have to pay = vested amount ~400k Settle or keep the loan is depending on 2 situations: 1. Keep the loan IF dividend + bonus - interest > 0. So, you still getting positive cash flow. 2. Settle the loan IF dividend + bonus - interest < 0 because you have to folk out your own pocket to pay for the month commitment. Thus, negative cash flow is always not a preferred choice. For me, I will go to option 2 if negative cash flow for 3 years in a row. That's my current plan. |
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Aug 3 2013, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Aug 3 2013, 06:46 AM) Need some advise on this ASB loan/saving strategy...I just use rough calculation I just dont get on this part:Let say I apply 30k loan for 10years right now Loan commitment : ~RM3xx/month Finished paying back 30k loan after *3years By then, I have the 30k+interest as I finished serving the loan using my own money, after that I took all the money from ASB and apply for 200k loan for 25 years Loan commitment : ~RM1xxx/month Paid the first year monthly loan commitment using my 30k and let it on autopilot, pay using own money whenever possible What do you think of this strategy? Any flaws? Anything that I should be aware of? Should I opt for longer or shorter term for my first loan? I'll be unable to commit for long term right away as I'm planning to get housing loan in ~3-4years time. Currently I don't have any loan commitment, already have transport and house. No CC. *minimum lock-in period Let say I apply 30k loan for 10years right now Loan commitment : ~RM3xx/month Finished paying back 30k loan after *3years at the first place, why do need to loan ASB RM30k where you know that you will have RM30k in next 3 years (I am under my assumption you will have money to make settlement after 3 years out of 10 years loan period)? Please correct me if I misunderstood. |
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Aug 3 2013, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Aug 3 2013, 02:16 PM) You understand that right. So monthly saving is better at this point(the initial 30k)? I've calculated it and indeed a loan will set me back a few grand... Based on my ASB agent, ASB loan is the most safest investment the bank have. It is because if you don't pay back for 2 months, they will sell your certifcate and get back the money .. as easy as that .. It just that I don't have any CCRIS record before(all stuff paid in cash; no CC). I'm just afraid that I can't secure the 200k ASB loan later on if I don't have any proven track record and already serving my housing loan at that time. Say my monthly salary is 4k, 1.5k/month for housing loan, no other commitment, is the 200k loan achievable? Correct me if I'm wrong |
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Sep 17 2014, 05:49 PM
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Sep 17 2014, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Sep 17 2014, 04:54 PM) I took 200k loan for 20yrs with maybank and stop after servicing 2 years. Total refund i get including insurance termination is about 5.8k... I believe you still earn 'delay return' which is dividend (unless you terminated on January).This 'delay return' you will come in your ASB in January Next year. Here is my calculation: Lets assume dividend given by PNB to ASB funders is 7% per year. - You will earn about 0.58% / month - If you terminate on July, you still have dividend from January-June, 6 months. 0.58% x RM200k = RM1166/month x 6 months = RM7000. In next circle, you will get RM7000 dividend on top of RM5.8k. Correct me if I were wrong. |
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Sep 17 2014, 09:07 PM
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Sep 17 2014, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(chrommed @ Sep 17 2014, 08:57 PM) If I take 200k loans, but planning to use the dividend on the 2nd year onward to pay the installment. And I take a 5 year loan to pay for the 1st year installment. Sounds like a plan? that sounds a bad plan to me as you will be in debt for 5 years. The better way is to take the amount you can afford to pay. Eg, RM50k which about RM300 per month. Next year, this existing ASB already finish. So take another RM50k. In 4 years time with RM300 monthly, you will get RM200k in your ASB loan. This is better way than take personal loan for 5 years to get ASB loan 200k. You save 1 year as well as high interest on personal loan. |
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Sep 18 2014, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Sep 18 2014, 09:23 AM) yeah...i just terminate my loan on last june and the refund i get is from principle i paid + insurance termination..and by end of this year shall get dividend for jan-may. Cool! ..By the way=, whats the reason you terminated your loan? 2 years already and you probably not paying the loan from own pocket already. |
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