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notoriousfiq
post Oct 4 2017, 03:26 PM

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thanks haziq
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post Oct 10 2017, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(vondutch @ Oct 9 2017, 06:12 PM)
Can you advise which bank is this? I asked my banker in CIMB and she doesnt have any clue about this switching thingy.
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I've also never heard of "switching". It is always terminating and reapplying. As with a new rate, you will need a new agreement, which supersede and cancel the old agreement with the old rate. not sure if we can switch agreements.. sweat.gif

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post Nov 6 2017, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 5 2017, 09:34 AM)
Any idea on next asb dividen?
Seem like loan interest getting low these days, 4.8%. Last year lowest is at 5% iinm.

Hopefully the asb dividen is higher la
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Don't get your hopes up. lol

ASB2 dropped, so expect drop also for ASB. I don't see how ASB can grow when ASB2 dropped.
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post Nov 9 2017, 11:18 AM

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Haha. but ASNB is really minimal "struggle" la. Basically just a saving account only. Literally will be no pain, thus will be no (I mean very little) gain.

Real pain is when we go for other risky investments.
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post Nov 14 2017, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(facktura @ Nov 14 2017, 12:38 PM)
Whats the difference between ASB and Unit Trust?

We know UT can give return up to 8-12% annually right, so if those who has lots of cash, advisable to invest in Unit Trust as well?
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Same thing. Amanah Saham = Unit Trust

just that one is govt, safe, guaranteed, bla bla

QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Nov 14 2017, 01:31 PM)
I terminated my ASB loan from maybank and reapplied again with a lower interest rate two weeks ago. Loan approved but yet to disburse, can I cancel? Any penalty fees? I didn't have a copy of my application form so had no idea...
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Yes, there will be penalty fee. But idk how much.
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post Nov 22 2017, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(epie @ Nov 21 2017, 10:22 PM)
the best offer i got so far is

4.8%
no takaful/insuran
lock in period 1year

CASHBACK 0.3% (from loan amount)
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Got cashback some more.. Nais.. Which bank?
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post Dec 27 2017, 09:26 AM

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I think we all get the gist already.
Bank loan offer always say "limited time only", "going to end soon". Yet everytime also extended, extended, extended.

And that's a good thing for us consumers.

Banks have to be competitive in today's hard time. If Bank A ends their offer, Bank B will offer better, people will quickly leave Bank A easy.
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post Dec 28 2017, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Dec 27 2017, 07:38 PM)
For the 10 years subsequent to the 20yr loan you get the full profit so I think the return for a shorter loan is good as well or perhaps better than longer tenure since you pay lesser interest.
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For a long term game, it's quite the same with ANY other loan. Car, Mortgage, etc. Which is, the shorter the better. We give money to the bank lesser.

But people who are taking long tenure ASBf is looking at short term game, i.e. to exit after 3 years. People don't take 30 years to finish 30 years.

So, if its short game you're looking, take long tenure. If you want to finish, take the shortest you can (or want to) pay.
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post Dec 28 2017, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 28 2017, 02:35 PM)
just asking if 200k loan, better we stop at 3rd year or extend until 7th year? in a way that still afford to pay monthly loan
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Why go to 7th year?
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post Dec 28 2017, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(skylee18 @ Dec 28 2017, 02:52 PM)
1000 loan @ 6% - 60
1000 return @ 8% - 80
profit return 20 which is only 2%

worth or not?
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Ohh.. buddy..
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post Jan 3 2018, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(uk9089 @ Jan 3 2018, 10:23 AM)
How much would i save if i change my current asb loan 5% to ambank asb 4.75% loan?

My current loan left about RM190k (Which includes Takaful Insurance RM8k).
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Very little. Less than RM50 per month. If you think that's worth it, go for it.

It's good to show the banks that we WILL pursue the lowest rate. Power to the people!! hahaha
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post Jan 7 2018, 07:00 PM

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Have some extra cash.

Question:

When ASB2 dividen is lower than ASB1, why should we go there? What if we reduce ASBf to inject cash into ASB instead?
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post Jan 7 2018, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(faizfizy39 @ Jan 7 2018, 07:03 PM)
Because when you do it the financing way, you can earn more compared to invest with your own cash. Keyword "leverage"  smile.gif

In case you interested to apply with CIMB bank, feel free to let me know.
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You earn 1% - 2% with loan. But get 7.25% with your own cash.

say ASBf : 2%
+
ASB2 (cash): 6.25% (or something)
=
8.25%

Compared to all in ASB (cash): 7.25% .. That's 1% difference. Hmm..


Thanks, but I already max my loan.
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post Jan 7 2018, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(faizfizy39 @ Jan 7 2018, 09:06 PM)
If you want to take percentage difference, it can't be do it in that way. And I don't prefer to calculate in that way too cause it can be quite confusing.
I'm not talking about ASB2 financing. I'm talking about whether to put cash in ASB1 (reduce loan), or to put in ASB2.

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post Jan 8 2018, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Personal banker _ AA @ Jan 8 2018, 07:53 AM)
Dont reduce the loan. Better to put in ASB2. Because you'll earns both dividend
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Back to this.
QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 7 2018, 08:38 PM)
You earn 1% - 2% with loan. But get 7.25% with your own cash.

say ASBf : 2%
+
ASB2 (cash): 6.25% (or something)
=
8.25%

Compared to all in ASB (cash): 7.25% .. That's 1% difference. Hmm..
Thanks, but I already max my loan.
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The increase in profit is only around 1%.

And then there's this.

QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 7 2018, 08:47 PM)
1% difference not enough to make the call.
Once your committed to ASB/ ASB2 loans, your opportunity cost is mortgage/ personal/ car loan.
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An option also to look at others. (As if I can afford a car or house! lulz)
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post Jan 29 2018, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Jan 28 2018, 09:43 PM)
I will inform more regarding this later. But for your info the increment of the rates will not effect too much. The key for asbf is to save and gain money more than ASB saving. If u understand this u wont feel burden about it.

OPR is increase because the economy is good. Its needed so our economy will maintain its positive growth. The bright side of it, when the economy is gud, most funds also will do well. When this happen we might see the increment of dividend this year for ASBF.

Just think it like this. U might pay 0.25% more but u also will profit 0.25% more.

If u have 200k asb let say now u earn 14k (7%) and next year u earn 14.6k (7.25%) this is not include the bonus. Usually when the economy is good the bonus also will be increase. So just wait and see guys.

No need to worry a lot. Thats why i always advice u guys make asbf with the installment amount u can afford. At least for the 1st year. Later when u get the dividend u can use the money to apply another loan. And also if u dun have much knowledge about asbf seek for someone who can give u the knowledge. It will help u more in longterm.
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No need to be so defensive. Increment is increment. We all know what it means.
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post Jan 30 2018, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(buggie @ Jan 30 2018, 05:41 PM)
Back in 2000, 2k may be worth more than the 2k in 2018. But still.... not that much of a difference. Can still make it if you really put your mind and effort into it.

Alhamdullilah that first 200k loan was left in there to compound and now 18 years later I've upgraded to 600k ASB loan (400k ASBf (it was possible then) & 200k ASB2f) and earning dividends on almost 1M thanks to the power of OPM. All this from pure ASB growth and strategies. It is possible thru systematic execution of the strategies and techniques prescribed by this forum and another forum
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Back then, did you do the "rolling back" method?

And how about now, doing it?
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post Feb 5 2018, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 31 2018, 10:13 PM)
I'm no uncle yet, I tossed in the part about living because I know a few uncles and aunties who have a ton of money but no adequate health or desires to spend it on experiences. Cuz in the end, that's what truly matters as one ages.

Not many of us can do delayed gratification. It can be hard to see pals on social media with the latest cars or trips abroad... We want the same to. Just do it without breaking the bank and have a financial safety net.
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I just came back from a short backpacking trip (gen-x will turn in their grave when they hear gen-y travels) and I was talking about this with fellow travellers. I don't see the point of money if its all about saving saving saving. What is a million ringgit if its 20 years later? I'd rather have RM50k today than that. For 20 years you live so poorly, for that one point in the far future where you'll have the nice fortune. IF you get there.

But then again, hey, whatever floats your boat, right?

QUOTE(buggie @ Jan 31 2018, 10:47 PM)
All the money in the world now but no one to go travel with and no one to shower gifts to.... Didn't get to enjoy life as he clocks out at 10 and even comes in on the weekends. In the end take his money to the grave with him...
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That's me exactly you're describing, lol. Always travel alone. Have some tiny pocket money, but no one to give gifts to. Sigh..

But don't judge everyone as the same. Maybe he likes his job. Not me tho.

QUOTE(buggie @ Jan 31 2018, 10:47 PM)
On the other side of the spectrum... No need to go far... My office plenty of support staff earning 2500 a month for the last 10 years and yet still have the iPhone X...

Now at 60 years old, lining for food and clothes handouts. The future looks bleak for them and shatter to think what it'll be like when they need medical care
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Yeah, trying to avoid that. So, yes. True, buggie. Balance is key.

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post Feb 5 2018, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Feb 5 2018, 10:04 AM)
However dun take this as serious matter because the loan tenure will change back if the OPR is goes down again.
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That is VERY VERY unlikely in the near future. Realistically. Borrowers need to bite the bullet, banks will profit higher now.

QUOTE(rain0520 @ Feb 5 2018, 10:59 AM)
Hi, I would like ask if anyone here with the same figures as mine: I applied for 200k loan but the outstanding balance is 500k+++
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Can you get a screenshot of this insanity?
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post Feb 6 2018, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Bold III @ Feb 6 2018, 12:36 PM)
Is it ok if friend of mine who is not bumi, pump money to my asb acc then the dividen share 20:80?
She got the 80%..
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20% of 7% = 1.4% return.

Same as everyone else who are getting about 1% return also, after asb loan interest.

And since interest rate just got raised, maybe you are doing better. Take it. Also, pass me her number. For research purpose.

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