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 ASB loan, worth to get it???

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epie
post Apr 26 2018, 10:48 AM

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bank wont allow us to pay debt with debt
if not...i wan to pay all my loans using cc and get cashback and points
this matter has been discussed in credit card thread
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post May 1 2018, 08:10 AM

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waiting for asb2...please update here if it is available again
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post May 19 2018, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(MohdPuskas @ May 19 2018, 01:35 PM)
What bank got 30 years asb loan tenure ? I go few banks max is 20 years
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how old are you?
max tenure is 30 years or 65 years old..which one comes first
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post Jun 2 2018, 12:33 PM

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asb2 financing available?
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post Jun 2 2018, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 2 2018, 03:56 PM)
Yes. I can help it at 4.9% p.a
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post Jun 13 2018, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jun 4 2018, 09:49 AM)
I thought ASB2 financing or topup isn't available at the moment.. Or just released?
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Just got mine approved last week
asb2f 200k with bank rimau
4.9% takaful is compulsory.(min 3years)

Quota is officially full,
but a few people terminate theirs...and we can grab em
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post Jun 25 2018, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(shahrul09 @ Jun 25 2018, 01:38 PM)
Compulsory?
Never heard that. We cant opt not to take the takaful?
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to get the promo rate 4.9%..need to take takaful

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post Aug 15 2018, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Aug 15 2018, 01:21 AM)
It is.

As per the examples I have shown above... that is the difference of about 0.55% and 0.7%. For every 0.1%, every RM100,000 loan, you are gifting RM100 a year to the bank.

So imagine in the first year, your loan outstanding is RM200,000, the difference between your current rate and the new rate is 0.7%, you are easily losing RM1,400 just because of in action. And that is just for the first year, this repeats all the way (with reducing amount of outstanding) for the next 30 years

Current best rate with takaful is 4.85%, and without takaful is 4.9%

Let me know if any of you guys would like to make changes to your current ASB financing
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but we also need to calculate the missing dividend when we are doing the refinancing process
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post Aug 17 2018, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Aug 15 2018, 03:30 PM)
1 month's worth if you time it right.

Dividend loss: 200k * 1/12 * 7% = RM1166.67

Interest saved due to no disbursement during the same period: 200k * 1/12 * 4.9% = RM816.67

The difference is RM350

How much is the difference between 4.9% and say, 5.2% on a yearly basis again? And that repeats every year for the next 25, 30 years. You can do the numbers.
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can it be settled within 1month period?
any tips

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post Oct 4 2018, 09:39 AM

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wanna share what i do for the rolling method:

1. take out all the dividends from asb and put it in tabung haji
2. every month take out from tabung haji and pay the asb installment

it is quite hassle for some people to take out the money from asb every month as we need to go to the counter

for tabung haji...we can do it online
by doing it this way...we can maximise our gain

please advise if u guys got a better plan

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post Oct 4 2018, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(ezrachan @ Oct 4 2018, 11:50 AM)
Normally for CIMB we had linked with CASA for auto debit purpose.  So for those who like to do rolling, no need to withdraw every month from asb account  coz it's quite "leceh" I agree.

What u can do is withdraw the total installment for one year example: rm270 x 12 = rm3240, and put it into your CASA and let the bank do their job by deducting monthly. 😉
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but if i put into casa...i will not gain dividend
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post Oct 4 2018, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(JJKTP @ Oct 4 2018, 11:51 AM)
The problem with TH is that their recent dividend (including bonus) is kind of low to begin with and it gets lower once your savings exceeding the 10K threshold. But i do agree with you on the convenient part. ASNB should make it easier for withdrawal the same way the TH does.
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but if u put zakat into consideration....it will be almost the same

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post Oct 4 2018, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(blackseed202 @ Oct 4 2018, 02:29 PM)
you can claim tax credit for zakat. so much more worth it in terms of money if you are good with simple accounting. for simple no hassle, you can just go for tabung haji of course.
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i thought we can only claim tax credit for zakat pendapatan
can we do the same for zakat simpanan?

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post Oct 4 2018, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Oct 4 2018, 07:22 PM)
1. You need to pay zakat on ASB, be it the dividend, the balance of the dividend after rolling, and the balance itself (zakat harta). But I have to clarify that I am not a tax nor zakat agent so I am not going to delve too much into this. There are resources online that you can read on how to calculate zakat on the ASB income

2. Assuming that you have calculated your zakat-payable made on these income from ASB, and have paid your due to registered zakat collection agents (for example, Zakat Selangor), you can use the receipt to claim your rebate during tax filing. 

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2012...-who-pay-zakat/
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http://www.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/mingguan...ak_28072013.pdf
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I guess some people do not pay zakat on their dividend and/or savings.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif Maybe we should do something about it. Like kempen "kesedaran".
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thanks for the clarification on zakat rebate for the income tax filing bro...it really helps
and yeah bro...need to do a campaign for the muslims to pay zakat...the money is not 100% ours
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post Oct 9 2018, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(engm85 @ Oct 9 2018, 01:05 PM)
Hi all, sorry if this slightly off topic.

Have any1 did a comparison, for a Muslim case that need to pay zakat on ASB, how is ASB AFTER zakat compares to TH

Which one is better for this low risk investment.

Assume ASB tu our own cash lah. Because if ASB loan, ada pendapat lain pula.

So let says put 100k own cash money in TH vs ASB, which one performs better.
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if u want to use ur own money and put zakat into consideration...TH is the better option

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post Oct 16 2018, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Oct 15 2018, 10:04 PM)
Yes betul.

That is the most profitable way of doing ASB loan. That is to pay the installment and not rolling it
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what if we rolling the dividen for that particular asb loan
and then apply for asb2 loan and serve it as usual

by doing this method....our monthly commitment is still the same

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post Oct 16 2018, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Oct 16 2018, 11:38 AM)
Well these are 2 separate matters that you are proposing

1. ASB 1 rolling
2. ASB 2 pay as usual

If you have paid both as usual, you would end up with more money, provided conditions remain the same (i.e 7% return over the next 30 years, and ~4.9% rate).

Put it this way, you may make more money in the end by:

1. ASB 1 pay as usual (RM1058/m)
2. ASB 2 pay as usual (RM1058/m)

I can do the math, if anyone is interested.
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that is not what i meant bro

i have stated that monthly commitment is the same

so we have 2 options here

1. dont touch and keep compounding the dividend is asb

2. take out and rolling the dividend to pay for asb loan & apply for asb2 loan and serve it (same monthly commitment)
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post Oct 16 2018, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Oct 16 2018, 01:20 PM)
I fully understood what you meant. But you are talking about 2 different accounts. You are confusing yourself. It would be simpler if you just compare these 2 options:

1. Option 1, using normal method for ASB1 financing

2. Option 2, using normal method for ASB1 financing, then using rolling to pay for the ASB2 financing

To solve this all you have to do is to determine what is more beneficial? To finance ASB2 and use rolling method VS not doing anything at all?
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Same la bro...dunno how to put it in words haha
So what is ur opinion on that
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post Oct 16 2018, 05:04 PM

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healthy discussion...keep it going guys
sharing is caring
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post Oct 25 2018, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Oct 25 2018, 02:02 PM)
Whats the best financial strategy/advice for a fresh grad teacher with 3k salary to be able to buy a house at the shortest period of time and also asb as side income?

The teacher doesnt have child yet, no ptptn loan, also free accomodation at teachers quaters, own car fully paid. So expenses is at minimum.

Tq
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if u have money for down-payment...then go hunt for ur 1st house purchase 1st
after that u can do asb loan



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