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post Apr 3 2008, 07:09 PM, updated 18y ago

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Which one is better between Altec Lansing VS4121 and Sonic Gear Evo 7? Which one is better between Edifier R501 and Sonic Gear Blue Thunder IIR? Thank you for your comments.........
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post Apr 3 2008, 09:03 PM

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dunno abt the 5.1 speakers, but u are comparing the wrong stuff for the 2.1
vs4121 - rm230
evo 7 - rm135
huge difference, dude wink.gif
but i would recommend u to stay away from evo 7 if u only fancy the LED, it will dim out after long usage
and please, state your main usage, gaming? movie? music?

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post Apr 3 2008, 09:35 PM

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stay away from AL VS4121 in all type usage... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 3 2008, 09:35 PM)
stay away from AL VS4121 in all type usage... shakehead.gif
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at least i feel tat it is better than EVO 7,4121 is very very depends on how u place the speaker,to get the 4121 real potential,u need to get the right position to put the speaker...



Here are some correction for those who judge 4121 by listen in computer shop or pc fair:

the sound u listen from 4121 in this environment is not exactly the real sound of 4121 becoz normally they will put 4121's all component close together ( satelites and woofer stick close each other)..
*to get the max sound potential from 4121, satelites and woofer must stay far away from each other

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post Apr 3 2008, 10:04 PM

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Edifier R501 > Sonic Gear Blue Thunder IIR
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post Apr 3 2008, 10:20 PM

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I use my speaker for multi-purpose. Equally use in gaming, movie, music...... Ok. Now that Evo 7 is out of my list.
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post Apr 3 2008, 10:21 PM

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a lot of my friends had AL VS4121....woofer is not the main issue here...i had tune EQ, try stock, a lot of different placement, the down firing midrange driver is a nightmare, it kill the whole system potential...

Here i give TS a strong advise, don't buy the speaker that have the down firing midrange satellite such as AL VS4121 and ATP3, midrange driver perform large portion of detail, such as vocal...try imagine how good the sound if the singer sing behind u or sing under the desk? sweat.gif LET THE MIDRANGE DRIVER DIRECTLY FACING U, BUT NOT HIDDEN FROM U...

actually what is your budget? if RM200-RM300, go for Edifier, got few models you can choose from...HERE

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post Apr 3 2008, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 3 2008, 10:21 PM)
a lot of my friends had AL VS4121....woofer is not the main issue here...i had tune EQ, try stock, a lot of different placement, the down firing midrange driver is a nightmare, it kill the whole system potential...

Here i give TS a strong advise, don't buy the speaker that have the down firing midrange satellite such as AL VS4121 and ATP3, midrange driver perform large portion of detail, such as vocal...try imagine how good the sound if the singer sing behind u or sing under the desk?  sweat.gif  LET THE MIDRANGE DRIVER DIRECTLY FACING U, BUT NOT HIDDEN FROM U...

actually what is your budget? if RM200-RM300, go for Edifier, got few models you can choose from...HERE
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how about razor mako speaker?? it also has down firing sats..
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post Apr 3 2008, 11:23 PM

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My max budget is RM350. However, I hope to get a good speaker within RM250.
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post Apr 3 2008, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(steve1987 @ Apr 3 2008, 10:44 PM)
how about razor mako speaker?? it also has down firing sats..
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this one i don't know...I only know AL down firing design is nightmare...

QUOTE(ysh_kobe @ Apr 3 2008, 11:23 PM)
My max budget is RM350. However, I hope to get a good speaker within RM250.
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RM250 not much to choose...RM300+- for Edifier... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ysh_kobe @ Apr 3 2008, 11:23 PM)
My max budget is RM350. However, I hope to get a good speaker within RM250.
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if max 350 ,can go for edifier c3,

if wan get best at 250, get edifier m3300....good enough....
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if u are not picky about the music quality, and more on gaming and movie, may i suggest u to take Sonic Gear Blue Thunder 3? nod.gif
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post Apr 4 2008, 01:48 AM

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dun buy evo 7 and blue thunder.go for edifier
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QUOTE(scy320 @ Apr 4 2008, 01:48 AM)
dun buy evo 7 and blue thunder.go for edifier
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at least state the model for TS' reference?
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post Apr 4 2008, 02:27 AM

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I'll get a Creative X-FI Audio to be paired with this new speaker. So, its better to get a not so expensive speaker since my full budget for audio is RM500. Just state the models dudes....
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since u going to have a good sound card...
why dun u just spend a bit more for a edifier c3?
it's equally good for everything~biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Apr 4 2008, 02:19 AM)
at least state the model for TS' reference?
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Edifier R501 is better than sonic gear blue thunder
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post Apr 4 2008, 10:40 AM

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Back to C3 and R501 again!!!!!!!!! I would like to get a R501 when I visit KL next week but how much does it weight under box packaging? I'm afraid I'll go overweight and charged kao kao by airasia.... Plus C3 vs R501. Cons and pros pls........
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post Apr 4 2008, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(ysh_kobe @ Apr 4 2008, 10:40 AM)
Back to C3 and R501 again!!!!!!!!! I would like to get a R501 when I visit KL next week but how much does it weight under box packaging? I'm afraid I'll go overweight and charged kao kao by airasia.... Plus C3 vs R501. Cons and pros pls........
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where u live? why need to buy at KL?
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post Apr 4 2008, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(ysh_kobe @ Apr 4 2008, 09:40 AM)
Back to C3 and R501 again!!!!!!!!! I would like to get a R501 when I visit KL next week but how much does it weight under box packaging? I'm afraid I'll go overweight and charged kao kao by airasia.... Plus C3 vs R501. Cons and pros pls........
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C3 17kg and R501 around 18kg. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 4 2008, 09:52 PM

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Kota Kinabalu. Price here sucks......... No shop selling good Edifier. A shop selling Sonic Gear Evo 3 for RM285! Damn....
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post Apr 4 2008, 11:05 PM

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of course altec lansing is better
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QUOTE(ysh_kobe @ Apr 4 2008, 09:52 PM)
Kota Kinabalu. Price here sucks......... No shop selling good Edifier. A shop selling Sonic Gear Evo 3 for RM285! Damn....
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SG EVO 3 for RM285? u mite as well take air asia travel to KL, get ur Evo 3 for rm95, then travel back to sabah
u get to enjoy ur holiday in KL at the same time biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Apr 5 2008, 12:38 AM)
SG EVO 3 for RM285? u mite as well take air asia travel to KL, get ur Evo 3 for rm95, then travel back to sabah
u get to enjoy ur holiday in KL at the same time  biggrin.gif
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Nice suggestion! Sonic Gear's build quality really very bad?


Added on April 5, 2008, 2:43 amHow about the vacuum technology by Sonic Gear? Any comments?

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QUOTE(Audio Artist @ Apr 4 2008, 03:12 PM)
C3 17kg and R501 around 18kg. biggrin.gif
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wah.........c3 so heavy mie? my s2.1m only about 8-9kg sweat.gif
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what's the recommended speaker set for gaming (PS2/PS3) at a budget around rm300+? and what brand? prefer a simple 2.1 audio system..
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QUOTE(futra @ Apr 5 2008, 11:44 AM)
what's the recommended speaker set for gaming (PS2/PS3) at a budget around rm300+? and what brand? prefer a simple 2.1 audio system..
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top up a bit more.....EDIFIER C3
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I found there are a lot same/similar speaker recommendation thread created... doh.gif
Actually a Official Speaker Recommendation thread already create by Scotty " LINK " laugh.gif ,
hope you guys proceed your discussion at Official thread.
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excuse me guys ~~
May i know y u guys introduce Edifier C3?
Wat is the function of the external amp?
Thanks for reply.
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QUOTE(BladeRider88 @ Apr 5 2008, 02:00 PM)
excuse me guys ~~
May i know y u guys introduce Edifier C3?
Wat is the function of the external amp?
Thanks for reply.
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bro,pls go to the thread smile.gif below --------> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/388274

u will get many knowledge

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Okay. Perhaps I should restate my needs.. Good speaker with headphone jack and remote and extra audio input... Budget RM300+-.
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QUOTE(ysh_kobe @ Apr 5 2008, 02:41 AM)
Nice suggestion! Sonic Gear's build quality really very bad?


Added on April 5, 2008, 2:43 amHow about the vacuum technology by Sonic Gear? Any comments?
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based on personal experience, my EVO 7 spoiled within a week of purchase, but no problem until now after RMA (1 for 1 exchange)
was attracted to the LED back then, but regret coz that stuff would only react to bass instead of being just like those HIFI system (where it would move even if the sound is muted, detect from the source i guess). and u would have to crank up the volume to uncomfortable level just to get to see it move. furthermore, the LED now isn't as bright as it used to be, would dim out after long usage

so its up to u to judge doh.gif
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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Apr 5 2008, 04:19 PM)
based on personal experience, my EVO 7 spoiled within a week of purchase, but no problem until now after RMA (1 for 1 exchange)
was attracted to the LED back then, but regret coz that stuff would only react to bass instead of being just like those HIFI system (where it would move even if the sound is muted, detect from the source i guess). and u would have to crank up the volume to uncomfortable level just to get to see it move. furthermore, the LED now isn't as bright as it used to be, would dim out after long usage

so its up to u to judge doh.gif
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Sound quality? Balanced? On par? Where's the best place i can get cheap sonic gear speakers?


Added on April 5, 2008, 7:24 pmOkay. Now I've decided to go for 2 sets of speaker for RM400. suggest me some pairs? As long as dun exceed budget. Best performance:price ratio...... State the price for every speaker suggested pls..... This is urgent...... Thanks and sorry for the trouble guys>...

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QUOTE(ysh_kobe @ Apr 5 2008, 06:21 PM)
Sound quality? Balanced? On par? Where's the best place i can get cheap sonic gear speakers?


Added on April 5, 2008, 7:24 pmOkay. Now I've decided to go for 2 sets of speaker for RM400. suggest me some pairs? As long as dun exceed budget. Best performance:price ratio...... State the price for every speaker suggested pls..... This is urgent...... Thanks and sorry for the trouble guys>...
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for EVO7, imho decent enough for gaming and movie at that price tag, but certainly a no-no for music
imho, edifier has the best performance/price speakers, but rm400 for both speakers (and if not mistaken, u wan 2.1 and 5.1?) is kinda too low. unless u wan both 2.1 at rm400, then u can get M3300, M3400 or E3100, which is not bad (personal taste)
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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Apr 5 2008, 10:30 PM)
for EVO7, imho decent enough for gaming and movie at that price tag, but certainly a no-no for music
imho, edifier has the best performance/price speakers, but rm400 for both speakers (and if not mistaken, u wan 2.1 and 5.1?) is kinda too low. unless u wan both 2.1 at rm400, then u can get M3300, M3400 or E3100, which is not bad (personal taste)
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strongly agree, Edifier is the best performance/price ratio speaker brand
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C3 vs S2.1M?
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S2.1M imho is good for music listening, if u use ur speaker for music listening only, get this, the quality is ... wow!
C3 is more for general use, if u are into gaming, movie, and music, go for C3
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Latest Cheapest price for both?
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the cheapest i can find
S2.1M = RM399
C3 = RM388
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post Apr 5 2008, 11:39 PM

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What shop?
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ALL IT HYPERMART
u can find in lowyat plaza, or digital mall PJ
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post Apr 6 2008, 01:15 AM

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Thank you cyew86.
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how abt S530D?
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S530D is over rm700, u wanna kill TS? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Apr 6 2008, 01:26 AM)
S530D is over rm700, u wanna kill TS? laugh.gif
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RM699 in PC FAIR With Free Trolly biggrin.gif
Planning to buy...but dunno the perfomance blink.gif
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so far nobody complain about S530D except for the price laugh.gif
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hey..wana ask u all...will the price for speaker drop while the last day of the pc fair?
heard many ppl said that they will throw the stock with low price at the last few hours...

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i think that for old stock?

then i go for S530D between Aego M
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QUOTE(lcyeap90 @ Apr 6 2008, 02:29 AM)
hey..wana ask u all...will the price for speaker drop while the last day of the pc fair?
heard many ppl said that they will throw the stock with low price at the last few hours...
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instead of asking here, why don't u go try and see in PC FAIR? laugh.gif
we as customers wouldn't know, and those as sellers won't be so stupid to tell customers to come only on the last day to buy coz they are slashing price on the last day right?
maybe they will throw old stock, but i doubt that they would slash price for new stock as they can always resell at their shops at higher price
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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Apr 6 2008, 02:37 AM)
instead of asking here, why don't u go try and see in PC FAIR? laugh.gif
we as customers wouldn't know, and those as sellers won't be so stupid to tell customers to come only on the last day to buy coz they are slashing price on the last day right?
maybe they will throw old stock, but i doubt that they would slash price for new stock as they can always resell at their shops at higher price
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haha..i'm not sure...the reason my friends tell me is...
they dun want carry so many boxes of speaker back to their shop..
think that..mostly nowadays speaker's box set will weight you around 15KG...
hmmm...quite reasonable also..
hahaha...
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QUOTE(lcyeap90 @ Apr 6 2008, 02:54 AM)
haha..i'm not sure...the reason my friends tell me is...
they dun want carry so many boxes of speaker back to their shop..
think that..mostly nowadays speaker's box set will weight you around 15KG...
hmmm...quite reasonable also..
hahaha...
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i think that only applies to old model/stock
last time i went, they refuse to give any discount at all (regret buying it, even shop selling cheaper than tat)
but i saw creative and altec lansing selling their old speakers models at a discount (PS2000 (RM69) and ATP3 (RM159) respectively)
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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Apr 6 2008, 03:02 AM)
i think that only applies to old model/stock
last time i went, they refuse to give any discount at all (regret buying it, even shop selling cheaper than tat)
but i saw creative and altec lansing selling their old speakers models at a discount (PS2000 (RM69) and ATP3 (RM159) respectively)
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ATP3 RM159 very cheap meh? i thought ATP3 159 is the normal price already? lol
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QUOTE(DotA 5.84C -AR @ Apr 6 2008, 04:11 AM)
ATP3 RM159 very cheap meh? i thought ATP3 159 is the normal price already? lol
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ya...quite cheap....but this model is tooooooooooooooooooooo old adi....if u buy it i will laughing u.... rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 6 2008, 05:21 AM)
ya...quite cheap....but this model is tooooooooooooooooooooo old adi....if u buy it i will laughing u.... rclxm9.gif
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old or new is not the matter, the main thing is sound quality
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QUOTE(DotA 5.84C -AR @ Apr 6 2008, 10:58 AM)
old or new is not the matter, the main thing is sound quality
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ya...but ATP3 quality... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 6 2008, 11:05 AM)
ya...but ATP3 quality... shakehead.gif
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bro,tat is becoz u own MX5021 oredi ma laugh.gif laugh.gif for certain ppl tat cannot afford expensive speaker hor,atp3 consider very good quality oredi lu laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(DotA 5.84C -AR @ Apr 6 2008, 04:11 AM)
ATP3 RM159 very cheap meh? i thought ATP3 159 is the normal price already? lol
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rm159 TWO YEARS AGO laugh.gif
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QUOTE(xk2 @ Apr 6 2008, 11:30 AM)
bro,tat is becoz u own MX5021 oredi ma laugh.gif  laugh.gif for certain ppl tat cannot afford expensive speaker hor,atp3 consider very good quality oredi lu laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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ya....but "others" brand better than ATP3 in this price range...thats why i not recommend ATP3 and VS4121...overall i not recommend AL speaker in RM150-300 price range...
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 6 2008, 01:18 PM)
ya....but "others" brand better than ATP3 in this price range...thats why i not recommend ATP3 and VS4121...overall i not recommend AL speaker in RM150-300 price range...
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no la,tat is jus for certain ppl only,some ppl very 'degil' one ma laugh.gif ,they only wan altec lansing..and edifier they say is cap ayam doh.gif


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QUOTE(xk2 @ Apr 6 2008, 01:58 PM)
no la,tat is jus for certain ppl only,some ppl very 'degil' one ma laugh.gif ,they only wan altec lansing..and edifier they say is cap ayam doh.gif
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i agree.edifier produce some new speaker that are quite good in sound quality.

 

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