i guess in my days there is no option rather than form 6, a level is about 10k per semester, i guess you guys are lucky since, you all can take uec and jump from standard 3 to 5, i think utar/ktar is a nice place for the one who is left out in ipta application, in my days many students drop out after spm and stpm, cause they cant find a place in local university, ya u can go to uni after high sch, but my days is not practical, maybe im outdated =X

wah a girl ???

i got to know dat most of the girls there very pretty !!!

dats cool !!

so i think i should get to know you more ..... 

u can add me in Yahoo messenger, my id is : satz_programmer
skype id : satz_programmer
MSN : satz_home@hotmail.com

my email address : satztg@gmail.com
wesite : www.satyaraj.com

the best post ever : http://blog.satyaraj.com/2008/04/28/school...prime-minister/

hm... i am taking chemical i guess.....

hey captwong, wat u meant by "wolf" ???
and did u look at my post's link ??

dat is a nice one too, bad one ?

Good thing to know that UTAR is now working on achieving the Washington Accord, this will help boost the quality of the education and the degree in the future job market also.

The facility of the UTAR setapak campus is not as good as other renown universities, but the basic stuff are there to meet with our necessary requirements.

Whether one is a good or bad lecturer, it's no longer a major issue like it was in the secondary education. Self-accessed learning is the key to success in UTAR and other institutions as well as the job market. Do not expect spoon-feeding from the lecturer any longer and you'll have to look for more reading materials yourself. Like what CaptWong has mentioned earlier, there's no good and bad lecturer. Only good and bad students.

As for Chemical Engineering courses, I believe that every engineering courses has its own difficulty and killer subjects. It's tough. However, what you need is the will to study.

maybe ur talking about those in degree, i find that degree lecturers are far better in their spoken english, than foundation lecturers. The foundation lecturers, none of them have well spoken english except mr pek and mr wesley

kampar rent is cheep? my cousin say he pay thru his nose 4 rental?

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Added on May 27, 2008, 11:56 pm

but i pay rm600+ for facilities, dun u think they shd give us something?????

Long time nvr show up here. Juz to increase some info.
You cant direct compare the cost living in Kampar direct to KL area, it is not proportional. A living cost for Kampar shouldn't go so far, only mean the hostel.
I saw every year, student paying extra charges for the following :
Activity and Recreation rm100
Resource Centre RM200
Development RM300
Insurance RM9

Insurance, i agree wif it since nowadays utar don't have time to take care the safety of student around PJ or Setapak, so buy you an insurance, anything happen, still got money for your parents. (Still, Utar think for the student benefit, good thing)

I have asked the office for the reason of others fee. By their explanation is like below:
Activity and Recreation : the 2 ping pong table in PD block, sharing swimming pool facilities wif KTAR, PC block sports area and some others activity held by UTAR around campus area (Does utar held any activity?)

Resource centre : You are using the computer lab and library from our school. wble also need money to operate it as well.

Development : Painting over UTAR, renovation on utar. Lift maintainance, toilet repair, air-cond service. computer lab.

So, Juz my 2cent. are you going to pay rm600 for those unreliable computers in lab? Does UTAR really make any renovation in PJ area?

After that, office direct me to phone over finance department as they can provide better explanation. We cant argue on this fees, since many people and UTAR will be telling you, if you don't want pay, then don't study here lar. So, my aim only explaining some of the weird cases in utar. Not to boycott.

One of utar lecturer (myfren), telling me that, he/she(private confidential) not really know about the resouce and activity fees. but the development fee is a donation for Kampar campus.

A organisation have thousand and millions of excuses to gaining more money. Ya, you does nid to pay for your study. But is it equivalent to what you get?

Don't aim your cannon on me, all utar defenders. I juz want to add some info. It's kinda heart pain to see all people shooting TS in TS's own forum...Haha.

For AS student, juz my 2cent again, there is two round of student kicking in around Y1S2 and Y2S2. If you check back the student record, many student accepted into actuarial science (AS) this course without really taking into consideration about the ability of the student. UTar does a good job by providing everyone to study AS since UKM and UM setting a 4.0CGPA for STPM student to join( with limited seats around 40 in UKM,UM juz open AS course last year, so i'm not sure).
What i want to mention is, in Y1S2 and Y2S2, there is alot of student around 30% change course since they unable to continue AS study (you can check the record or ask AS student to tell you truth). Why doesn't UTAR set a tighter rule to let studnet join AS, but they only accept all student although the student don;t have the qualification for AS? Reason: You will be ending change course in utar and paying more to utar. Especialy foundation student, bcoz foundation cert not really gets recognition from other UNI. Imposible for you to change to other UNI and start wif foundation again. You will mostly stay in UTAR in other subject.
Note: The case i just mention only apply to AS. Other courses don't have such a high rate in changing course.

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Added on May 29, 2008, 8:13 am@reyzai
Haha. Ya, you get it right. i'm enjoy dota as well. Sad case is Milinium  Court now have bcome Mahsa College (MC change to MC) and does not accept any utar student anymore.
Not only PC many pretty. I think your utar FAM faculty also have 65% of girls population.
Next, I been working already, so i open up this thread juz to wish can telling utarian some truth that nvr shown up.

UTAR still will be choice(only one) for many people, the fees low compare others. Juz the "low" is not suppose the "low" we should get. Haha, i get confused by my "low" as well.

oh dear, who is that poor physics lecturer? Miss J? Miss Y?

Not really, at least now DSA will not be able to tipu me off my money anymore. After today wahahahahaha!

any1 got terminated before?
i juz got terminated.
HELP!

Haiz. I blame on LAN again? Since when my english so bad until i was misunderstood that i say LAN no good? I agree that LAN is a process of must for every UNI and i didn't have any voice on that.

Erm, I still waiting for the student to pass me the officer name. By now, the only info i get is the officer is a young guy around 20 - 30, is an officer of PD block G.O. at level L1. Others info, i still waiting over the student to confirm with me.

I heard recently that if u FAIL any of ur subject...there's is no such thing as resit the exam...u need to recourse the whole subject...is this true? anyone can clarify this?

errr hi , can i ask a question here??

UTAR offer me degree in mechatronics engineering, but can i change the course to electronics engineering?

How to appeal??

because mechatronics engineering not approved by jpa and bem, i didnt notice when i apply.
p.s. : email and phone to UTAR no reply/busy. 

Hi UTARians, sorry to intrude a little...wanna ask something.

I called the admissions office just now. She gave me a choice of either PJ or Kampar campus for foundation, so I guess it means PJ will be open for at least one and a half years more? Haha.

But my main concern is the Bachelor in Architecture course - I combed through this whole forum and no word about it  I gather it's a new course, but I would like some feedback if there was an earlier intake. If not, er, 'lucky' me.

If architecture is under FES, does this mean it'll be in KL till I graduate with a degree? =D

Thanks guys!