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 Xigmatek S1283 & thermal paste, Come and discuss!

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sHawTY
post Mar 29 2008, 01:42 PM

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IMO, You can't use the rice grain drop method on HDT technology.
Try spreading a thin layer of TIM on the IHS.
See either it perform better or worse.

But still, i don't think the rice grain drop method is useful on HDT technology.
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post Mar 29 2008, 08:18 PM

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The reason why the rice grain method won't work on HDT based heatsink is because HDT tends to have some "longkang" on each side of the heatpipes, thus, it reduces the thermal transfer power.

If you use rice grain method, the TIM layer will be so thin, it won't go into those "longkang" which will result to a weaker thermal transfer.
On HDT, you need to spread the TIM all over the processor's IHS, with a lil bit more TIM on the IHS, some of the TIM will be pushed into those "longkang's".

Despite the high performance of HDT technology based heatsink, i found two weakness in HDT:
1. You can't use HDT based heatsink on naked core CPU & GPU.
2. You have to use more TIM compared to non HDT heatsink.

PS:
Sorry, i don't remember what's "longkang" in english. Sorry! blush.gif

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post Apr 10 2008, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(glock88 @ Apr 10 2008, 03:40 PM)
guys. just wanna ask. if not all of the push pins are not in place, can it affect the temp? b'coz only 3 out of 4 pins is properly secure... will my proc temp increase higher than a stock intel cooler?
YES.
Indeed it is hard to secure all of the 4 pin.

What should you do is take out the motherboard and fix the heatsink to the board before you put it back into the casing.

PS:
This is why most hardcore users prefer bolt through compared to push pin method.
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post May 6 2008, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(tauevo @ May 6 2008, 09:46 PM)
i doubt it. i use other mobo also give me similiar result.
Well then, i'll just call the best minds and show that a processor can't be cooler than the room temperature.
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post May 6 2008, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(tauevo @ May 6 2008, 10:02 PM)
Should i throw away my newly bought mobo? haha
No, you just have to accept that a processor will never run at a lower temperature unless you're using a cascade / phase change / dry ice or LN2.
Even watercooling can't cool a processor than the room temperature.

I'm using a high end watercooling kit on my Q6600 G0 [at stock speed] with my room cooled by a 2.5HP air conditioner set to run at 14°C that runs for 24 hours, my processor still runs at 28 degrees. If a watercooling kit can't cool a processor lower than the room temperature, it's impossible for an aircooling heatsink to do that.

By the way, my watercooling kit consits of a bowed D-TEK FuZion, Swiftech MCP655-B, Swiftech MCRES Micro & Cool-Trek DP1203.

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post May 7 2008, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(tauevo @ May 6 2008, 10:36 PM)
aiyee.. actually i dun quite understand bout the water cooling kit thingy. as for me water cooling quite troublesome. sorry la no offense here tongue.gif . My casing is much more cooler than room temperature maybe my 1.8hp air condition straightly blow to the casing and i installed 4x8cm (having >30cfm) fans and 1x 12 cm (>80cfm)fan in the casing. Total up will be 10 fans including the cpu, psu in the casing. Still thinking of adding another 2x12cm (90cfm) fans. haha.. i dunno bout hard mod.

if u all look carefully in my cpu fan speed, u will notice tat i am not using the original fan from xigmatek.
You're missing the point.
There's zero possibility that you can cool a processor cooler than the room temperature using watercooling / aircooling. It's impossible.
It doesn't matter how many fans you're using, that doesn't make your processor goes cooler.

By the way, my 2.5HP airconditioner is set to run at 14°C 24 hours blows directly to the radiator. I only do this to test my watercooling kit. Because i can't sleep in my room if i were to do that kind of cooling 24/7/365.
I chucked in a temperature sensor in the watercooling tube and the temperature of the water coming out from the radiator after cooled by the fan and the airconditioner is 20°C, my processor still runs at 28°C.

If there's another guy getting an even lower temperature than yours, then that means he's getting the same problem as yours.

So, unless you're using a cascade / phase change / dry ice or LN2, there's no way a processor can run at a temperature that's even lower than the room temperature.
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post May 8 2008, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(tauevo @ May 7 2008, 11:26 PM)
Then this taken when room temperature is 20.5 degree on my desk. 19.4 degree on my casing. happy now? tongue.gif
Those softwares took the temperature readings from your motherboard temperature sensor, so if your motherboard temperature sensor is crippled, so as the results.

Again, if your room temperature is 20.5°C, how can your processor goes 19°C?

No matter how bad you want to prove this, you still can't defy the rules of physics.
You can't prove anything just using software temperature sensors.
Wanna prove the real temperature? Get a laser temperature sensor and shove it on your processor, from there we'll see either you can defy the rules of physics.

Also, one important note, i have a Q6600 G0 that has a very low VID, my room temperature is lower than yours, which is 18°C, i'm using watercooling, but the temperature of my Q6600 G0 is still 28°C. smile.gif

 

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