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skiddtrader
post Apr 23 2008, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(pmsoo @ Apr 23 2008, 11:24 AM)
hmm.gif  How come when u sell the share, you add the brokerage fee,0.03% and stamp duty to the sales? Shouldn't you minus them off?
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For every transaction, you will be charged the brokerage fees, clearance fees and stamping duty. Those are the costs of the Buy as well as Sell transaction.

So we have to add it in, because you don't gain from it but have to pay it. That's why its a added the costs and minus from profit generated. The only profit/loss you get is the difference in prices of the share, the charges and fees you have to pay no matter you make money or not.
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post Apr 23 2008, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Apr 22 2008, 10:44 AM)
2. If your friend decides to sell at RM6.60, the calculation will be;

RM6.60 x 1000 shares = RM6600 sales

RM6600 + RM28 brokerage fees = RM6628

RM6628 + 0.03% = RM6629.99 (rounded)

RM6629.99 + RM7 stamping duty = RM6636.99 - RM6600 = RM36.99 brokerage fees

Profit therefore is RM6600 - (RM6379.91 + RM36.99) = RM183.1
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Skid,

Your calculation make him confuse.

Net sales amount = 6600 - brokerage fee = 6600 - 36.99 = 6563.01

Net buy amount = 6379.91

So net profit = 183.1

Still the same. Just he might be confuse the way you compute. Make it straight forward, then he can see more clearly and easily.
You method still right, just the way of the calculation, he might not see it.
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post Apr 23 2008, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 23 2008, 02:48 PM)
Still the same. Just he might be confuse the way you compute. Make it straight forward, then he can see more clearly and easily.
You method still right, just the way of the calculation, he might not see it.
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Yeah I tried re-reading it, and it turn out a bit confusing without more explanations of the calculations. tongue.gif
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post Jun 1 2008, 08:08 PM

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post Jun 12 2008, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Apr 22 2008, 10:44 AM)
There are 2 kinds of brokerage rates out there, online rates which is 0.42% or a minimum of RM28(or less) which ever is more and 0.6% or minimum RM40 for trades with remisier/broker whichever is more.

On top of that, you need to pay 0.03% for clearing fees and also RM1 for every RM1000 as stamp duty.

1. I assume your friend uses online trading so the breakdown would be;

RM6.35 x 1000 shares = RM6350 purchase

RM6350 + RM28 brokerage fees = RM6378

RM6378 + 0.03% = RM6379.91

RM1 for every RM1000 means for RM6379.91 = RM7 stamping duty

So your final price would be RM6379.91 + RM7 = RM6386.91 (RM36.91 of brokerage fees and stamping duty)

Profit therefore is RM6600 - (RM6379.91 + RM36.99) = RM183.1
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I think ur calculation wrong already,although the final amount is same

My calculation is:
RM6.35 x 1000 shares = RM6350 purchase
RM28 brokerage fees
RM 6350 X 0.03% = RM1.91
RM1 for every RM1000 means RM 6350= RM7 stamping duty
TOTAL All together = 6350+28+1.91+7 = RM 6386.91

All the 0.03% and stamp duty is calculate base on the share value only
Any 1 know which 1 is correct caculation?

This post has been edited by peng01: Jun 12 2008, 09:01 PM
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i m planning to switch to HLE brokerage lah.. osk is abit expensive right? anyone using osk188 now? comment pls.
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post Jun 15 2008, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(peng01 @ Jun 12 2008, 08:58 PM)
I think ur calculation wrong already,although the final amount is same

My calculation is:
RM6.35 x 1000 shares = RM6350 purchase
RM28 brokerage fees
RM 6350 X 0.03% = RM1.91
RM1 for every RM1000 means RM 6350= RM7 stamping duty
TOTAL All together = 6350+28+1.91+7 = RM 6386.91

All the 0.03% and stamp duty is calculate base on the share value only
Any 1 know which 1 is correct caculation?
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Yes you are correct, the 0.03% should be added on the purchase price. Not after adding the brokerage fees. Thanks for pointing that out, I'm editing it.
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post Jun 15 2008, 11:15 AM

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3. 1000 x RM2 = RM2000

RM2000 +( 0.6% or RM40 whichever is higher) + (0.03% clearing fees) + (RM1 Stamp duty for every RM1K)  = RM2043.60 is what you have to pay. RM43.60 is the additional charges you have to pay your broker.

4. 1000 x RM2 = RM2000

RM2000 - (0.6% or RM40 brokerage charge, whichever is higher) - (0.03% clearing fees) - (RM1 stamp duty for every RM1K) = RM1956.40 is what you will get after you sell. RM43.60 is the charges you need to pay your broker for the 'SELL' transaction.
do u mean total 2 transaction buy and sell fees and charges is RM 87.20 ?

mean we need to sell at min price 2.09/unit to make profit from the stock?

RM 2.09 * 1000 is RM 2090.00

RM 90.00 - RM 87.20 is RM2.8

so our profit is RM 2.80

am i right for my calculation??? unsure.gif unsure.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jun 15 2008, 10:20 PM

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Is nominee or non-nominee account will affect the way of given dividen / financial report ? For example , they will issue cheque(dividen)under OSK name to OSK , then OSK only will issue cheque to us under our name ? Or financial repost will post to OSK then only OSK post to us instead of direct post to us ?
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QUOTE(outsider @ Jun 15 2008, 11:15 AM)
do u mean total 2 transaction buy and sell fees and charges is RM 87.20 ?

mean we need to sell at min price 2.09/unit to make profit from the stock?

RM 2.09 * 1000 is RM 2090.00

RM 90.00 - RM 87.20 is RM2.8

so our profit is RM 2.80

am i right for my calculation??? unsure.gif  unsure.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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It is not straight forward like that, if you sell at 2.09 then the charges for the SELL transaction will be on the RM2090.

Thus, RM2090 + (0.6% or RM40 whichever is higher) + 0.03% + RM1 (for every RM1k) = RM 2133.63

Your charges for the SELL transaction is 2133.63 - 2090 = RM43.63 ( notice the RM0.03 difference because it is based on the SELL price)


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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jun 15 2008, 11:17 PM)
It is not straight forward like that, if you sell at 2.09 then the charges for the SELL transaction will be on the RM2090.

Thus, RM2090 + (0.6% or RM40 whichever is higher) + 0.03% + RM1 (for every RM1k) = RM 2133.63

Your charges for the SELL transaction is 2133.63 - 2090 = RM43.63 ( notice the RM0.03 difference because it is based on the SELL price)
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oic....thanks....i think i get ur idea and the basic formula rclxub.gif

but still quite blur...now saving money for start to learn buying n selling share rclxub.gif
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post Jun 15 2008, 11:28 PM

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ou...outsider also here...
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Jun 15 2008, 11:28 PM)
ou...outsider also here...
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wah lao....long time didnt see u icon_rolleyes.gif


i just wanna know more about share trading.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 15 2008, 11:52 PM

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can learn together gether, i might chip in money soon, re-activating my account next week. few of the stocks finally meet my price....
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post Jul 12 2008, 01:54 AM

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Actually i saw the formula of calculating it. I understand it at first sight. Cause not very confuse as i saw. Now i have made the doubt about charges clear out of my mind now. Thanks ya.

(Beginner 1 stage clear, now go to Beginner stage 2)
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QUOTE(YuNGSeNG @ Jun 15 2008, 10:20 PM)
Is nominee or non-nominee account will affect the way of given dividen / financial report ? For example , they will issue cheque(dividen)under OSK name to OSK , then OSK only will issue cheque to us under our name ? Or financial repost will post to OSK then only OSK post to us instead of direct post to us ?
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I believe if you open a Nominee account, they will handle all the application for entitlements on your behalf, but you have to pay a fee for their service. Also, take note that Nominee account cannot be used for application of IPOs.
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post Oct 14 2008, 08:01 AM

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all sifu,

i would like to open an account and i will be dealing through broken rather than online bcoz lack of internet resources... i wan to ask is that osk is really good? someone said their charges is very expensive, but do they provide good services?
i currently looking for a valuable broker and better service...

thanks


Added on October 14, 2008, 8:02 amforgot, and i alternative will be CIMB...

This post has been edited by ! Love Money: Oct 14 2008, 08:02 AM
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post Oct 14 2008, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Oct 14 2008, 08:01 AM)
all sifu,

i would like to open an account and i will be dealing through broken rather than online bcoz lack of internet resources... i wan to ask is that osk is really good? someone said their charges is very expensive, but do they provide good services?
i currently looking for a valuable broker and better service...

thanks


Added on October 14, 2008, 8:02 amforgot, and i alternative will be CIMB...
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their charges is 0.6%... min RM40 tru remisier... RM12 for internet... OSK service not bad smile.gif
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thanks... but how bout CIMB? i would like to go for a cheaper 1 coz i m still a beginner...
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post Oct 14 2008, 01:44 PM

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Jus asking, I am interested in opening an OSK188 trading account. Who here works in OSK or got any contact to share?

Many thanks
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