i thought we are talking about city and vios? i thought both car only come in automatic variant? i thought both car also need to press brake to release the gear stick

then u r the only champion i know that shift the gear stick 1st before start engine
congratulation

if the alarm got the thing installed, why not use it

Swt just 1 alarm thingy can argue until so tension.

forum is to share info isnt it? doesnt matter i am the owner or not because i drove all the cars in my parents garage anyway.....u say i dumb ah?at least i not as dumb as u dun know how to lock your own car la dumb fark! ... people like this make people pissed off or else i also lazy to argue....u go write to honda japan and complain la if its such a big deal....i also see another problem in honda city la....the VTEC right....activate at so high rpm...i want drive fast also hard la.....i think honda should the engine also! hahahahah! .... oh yeah...VTEC activate faster i also can run away from hijacker easier

This post has been edited by Pro-MX: Mar 25 2008, 06:08 PM

vios problem versus city problem la wei..

dont talk about autolock, alarm and such..all these can easily obtained outside for less than 50bucks (alarm are more expensive la)

now we are focusing on problem!!! not safety

You are wrong.

Yes. No such limitation. i-VTEC uses selonoid to control the valve lift rather than camshaft. Thus, infinite variable lift.

ya lah forum is to discuss mah. so wats your problem when someone point out the problem , brain dead! u cannot absorb ah!! that's u i call u dumb. i said for security reason its not safe when people are panic to close the door instantly. you jump to conclusion like i am scolding your Mama's car.. ahahaah!! see now u ask me to write to Japan. u think this is school ah.. kiddo.! why dont u buy Kandos and eat when everybody enjoying Snickers .

people like this make me pissed off too. so Batu!

ok izzit a manafacturer defect? why cant write to honda if this is their fault right? what does school got to do with writing a letter? lol... nobody see it as a problem...only yourself so go figure kid...if u cant lock your own car door then u are really the one that is stupid...i dont see the japans considered this as a problem to them! u want to close the door instantly.....use your f***ing hand la...ur hand cacat adi cant use? panic then too bad la dei! who ask u to panic...thats human error.....nothing to do with the car! u think calling people dumb will make u smarter huh? so be it
ps: eventhough u can lock your door they still can smash your screen no?

This post has been edited by Pro-MX: Mar 25 2008, 08:44 PM

lol
chill la guys.
dont so tension.
better cut down on the vulgarities else later kena ban.

If u consider the price..City vtec/Jazz vtec should be compared to swift sport. Maybe the TS comparing idsi model with normal swift. both shared almost the same power..n swift is more cheaper.

but swift resell value is damn lor

if u check my post, i only call u a dumb but i refrain from using all the words that is vulgars. you have been using words like Fark, F***King that is so low as a human being .

when i mentioned the flaw when people gets panic, u said who ask u to panic. " that's human error" or perhaps to brighten your dark mind " that' human nature" to be more realistic. What Kind of Human Error you are talking about? this is what separates sanity and insanity.

I don't mind going on and on with this discussion as long as u mind your language or I will report u for using vulgar words. U also call me cacat! It shows your true character .

Let me recap back, New Toyota Problem vs New Honda Problem. Is this one of the Problem which toyota is having it also? I want to know how Toyota Auto lock is?

stupid reply

go read back wat u posting

wondering kids like u can be a dealer ...

He was talking about the hijacker entering your car *before* you start your engine. If you rely on the brake lock to lock your doors, don't you have to start your engine first...

Rely on brake lock, die (but it helps forgetful people).
Rely on speed lock, die (but it helps forgetful people).

Just press the lock button after you close your door. End of story.

Now, flaws. Not really flaws, just things I don't like.
Latio. The name. Always reminds me of FELLATIO. Sedan is ugly. Non-sporty wheels, tyres and brakes for the Sports version.
Swift. No boot space. Looks too similar to Myvi.
Vios. Center meter panel. Uses old engine. E spec. Just give ABS and twin airbags as standard, dammit.
City. 185/55/15 range means true comfort tyres like Bridgestone Turanza GR80 and Michelin MX V8 won't be available. Bumpy. Even with 4 extra spark plugs, IDSI FC not so significant from VTEC's.

These are opinions, no need to argue, there's no right or wrong.

Not whether lazy to use the hand to manually lock yourself or pressing the brake to lock.Some ppl come into the car and forgot to lock it even though they are not lazy to use their hand to manually lock it.Therefore,it is dangerous.

on problem wise, part of it depend your luck too

As far as I know, those using Cobra alarm of recent generation, esp Honda & Toyota (from City to Accord, from Vios to Camry), are the same.

finally, someone agree to me that its dangerous.
its not being lazy or wat but when new technology replacing the old type, many people have switch and some like me already use to QUICK auto lock .
I think Japanese is slow to pick up this detail. Yeah! It's Detailing. Perfecting it.

I dont think im lazy but forgetful.
I drove MYVI and im happy to Intant Brake Lock. Everytime i get into the car, My car just lock. As a Myvi owner of RM 50k giving Honda or Toyota a piece of Advise on this thing is not a good sign for car manufacturer that sells car over RM 80K above.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Mar 26 2008, 11:25 AM

u see, when people forget, its human error already, they should make it a habit, masuk car, lock the damn doors...


technology can only help so much, at the end of the day, its still human


not to say this auto lock, speed lock what ever is not good or not...
the car makers can only do that much and at the end, its still up to us to make full use of it...

Alright the world can blame on human error but not on human nature of forgetful? Mind can wanders away when a person is in distress. Anyway, the car will still lock , period,no problem with that, its not an issue now.

What we are mentioning now is about getting Panic and running away from road Bully. What happen if your car is block by a motorcycle or a car infront. You already came down and you need to flee into your car when something is not right. How quick can you lock the door?

im saying this from experience of getting into the car and lock it as fast as i can. u just dont have time to lock it with hand .

This post has been edited by hackwire: Mar 26 2008, 11:32 AM

dealing with panic,
this one will depends on individual...

some can still be calm and some will just go haywire....


so yeah....