Hi! I'm a beginner here. Planning to get a set of drumset to improve my skill.
Any idea on what kinda drumset should i get?
Pearl, Tama, Yamaha?
what model and price?
tama imperialstar izit okay?
i prefer pearl, but then any nice model for beginner?

About cymbals, what brand is okay for a beginner?
stagg, sabian, zildjian, paiste?
and also what type n size of cymbals?
china, crash, splash, ride?
how abt the price?

a beginner set consists of wut 1?
5-piece drumset with crash n ride cymbals?
or maybe more cymbals?

oh yeah, where can i get drumset with a reasonable price?
cuz i saw the price selling in bently quite pricey...

i hope you guys can help on this..thx!

p.s. I prefer black color drumset.. lolx...

haha. nice question here. try and ask nintendo. he spent the last few months answering those question. go and pm him. heck, i guess he'll be reading this in few hours. lol

just my opponion, no point getting good drum sets if you using it for practicing unless for performance... if you have the money go for yamaha or roland electric drum as it wont disturb your neighbour cuz can adjust the volume or use head-phone but you wont have the feel when you hitting it... it cost around 3-4k...

This post has been edited by jlce10: Mar 21 2008, 10:27 PM

I'm no drummer, but my principle on starting out on any instrument is the same. Go for the cheapest you can find. And then after you know what you need to get, get it straight away. No point wasting money buying a "decent" beginners kit.

That being said, i mean of course the cheapest proper drum kit and not some plastic toy you get from toysrus.

buying electric drums no feeling playing lar..
haha...

any drummers out there can teach me how to get rid of annoying your neighbours?
adding mutepad? other than that?

any 1 knows where to get Pearl Forum or Tama Swingstar?
for beginner, i think these will suit,rite?
wut's the price for these?
where can get?

soree 4 askin 2 much..
really need guidance from u all...

get rid of annoying neighbours? if you're the one hitting the drums, then ur the annoying one la dude. go and ask your whole neighbourhood. ppl will start identifying you as the one that hits the drums. and i have my fair share on this. lol. and i do think mutepads are the most efficient and cheap way. its either u mute the drums, or buy earplugs for others. haha. to make your room soundproof? u can get at least another two or three decent kits. so, its not worth it if your intention is to practice.

and if youre really want to get a cheap decent set, i would suggest u to go with pdp ez series. js music have one on display and u can try, hit, bang, bash, or whatever u do when testing a kit. theyve changed the skins and for practice, i personally think its worth it. price? can get it for 1250 or less. much cheaper then other entry lvl kit. try posting under the drummers thread. i think ull get more replies there.

^
you misread his post. he said getting rid of annoying HIS neighbours.
meaning he's being considerate.

oh and from what i learned from playing guitar hero, if your neighbours complain about your volume, turn it up even more and drive them away

i find better pleasure hitting those rubber mats on the electric drums...I feel more bouncy haha

You gots a few choices actually....

Ludwig has a pretty good entry level drum kit... the Ludwig Accent Combo CS available at bentley's for bout RM1600++..... made of selected veneer hardwoods and with ludwig hardware...its a good choice... get some remo heads and some good cymbals and you've got a nice kit

The Pearl Forum is a really good choice (i have one)
it sounds really nice...i bought mine secondhand with sabian B8's and an xs20 crash.... (buying secondhand is a good idea, assuming the items in good condition [you can get nicer kits for cheaper]) this is recommended

If you have a bit more cash to burn get a Pearl Export cos it has more precise bearing edges, wood hoops, better hardware...etc
provided you can find them though.... theyve been recently discontinued but since its the most top-selling drumset of ALL TIME, it could be worth alot someday

If you've REALLY got low cash, get a peace or something but i HIGHLY recommend you get something slightly better if you're serious abt drums. cos you dont want to get something that you'll regret later on.

The Imperialstar is a good choice. No cymbals though (try to get some good bronze/brass cymbals secondhand) it has 100% glued wraps, Accu-tune bass drum hoops, smaller lugs and won best drumset of the summer NAMM show 2007...... a VERY good choice... (apparently much better than the discontinues swingstar)

Yamaha makes good drumsets with good sturdy hardware. The Rydeen is a good drumset, just ask many of the people in LYN..... im not a fan of yamaha though...so i went with Pearl...

PDP is good too..... the EZ series is oretty good but apparently flimsy hardware (right?) and crap cymbals.... but a good beginner drumset nonetheless.. if you want a entry level PDP with DW-like features, check out the EX series (oval lugs, RIMS mounting, better hardware) for RM2400 with cymbals (ask boyboy~~ for the seller)

if you want an electronic drumset with a real-feel, check out the Alesis DM5 pro kit fitted with real remo drumheads.... using the famous Alesis DM5 Module has ALOT of sounds and is VERY customizable. RM2900++

On Jamtank.com's forums i saw a sonor force 507 which is a good entry level kit from sonor which is a trusted brand.... using its Force hardware and Basswood shells, it should be good. ONLY RM2150 but its pretty good for german-built quality =) PM me for the link if ur interested

not forgetting Mapex which is known for their Good quality woods and hardware at reasonable prices.... at good quality.
the V series is the cheapest with 9 ply basswood shells and remo heads. spend abit more and you can get the Q series which is a pretty good upgrade....

for cymbals however is really different... even the best brands can sound not as good as lower brands.... for instance, Sabian Solars sound REALLY bad..... while B8's, XS20, AA,HH etc are all good.... zildjian are known for their good cymbals but if your getting budget cymbals i recommend you dont go there.

Paiste makes good cymbals too. THey have the 101, 201, PST3 and PST5 cymbals which are all pretty nice.

Stagg cymbals are actually pretty good too! for its budget price, the DH crash, DH fat hats and Classic/DH ride combo will work out well... have them in a drum room in my school and they have a nice ring.
Don't be fooled by the name Stagg makes some prettyy decent cymbals...

Bosphorus makes cymbals that arent too bad but i reckon their suited for jazz mainly....

Istanbul mehmet, Alchemy, agop are good.

and MEINL is really good. the have it at DoReMi music....if ur interested
the Hcs and MCS series recommended.

Well thats my LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG post on budget drums/cymbals....

hope i helped

thats all my research over the past few months....

And yeah i guess namqul was right.....i did end up posting herree.....

by any means
u tod of gettin an electric drumset
can click my signature


acoutic drums is nice
unless u're locating the drum in
1) very gud soundproof room or
2) ur parents or neighbur dunt giv a S#$% how loud u play

btw dude if you really want a good electronic drumset, burgercis is selling a TD3KW (roland) for only RM3180 i think.... get that dude thats a really good deal

Thx guys...
u all really helped me alot...

electronic drumset is kinda pricey for me...
if i need to add any thing extra on the v-drum, around how much would it cost?
eg. extra cymbal...

i think i would go for either Tama Imperialstar, Pearl Forum or Pearl EX only...

Imperialstar.. the bass drum there... got the very big Imperialstar logo..
thatz y dun really like it.. any way can change it to the TAMA logo oni?

how much do the new sets of Imperialstar, Forum and EX cost?
where can i get those?

for cheapest price, whr can i get?
cuz if im not mistaken, Bentley n Rhapsody r selling Imperialstar for 2.4k or 2.5k...
but i heard my friend said that sumwhere selling around 2.1k oni...

any idea where can get cheapest (at least cheaper)?

the shipping from Bentley to my house which in Kelanja Jaya will be a bit costly (i think)...
so im waiting the Bentley in Mutiara Damansara to open... (kekeke...)

or do u think a whole damn drumset can fit in my Iswara Sedan?

for cymbals, i would definately go for Stagg 1st... cuz budget quite tight... haha...
i've tried Sabian Solar n it really sux!!!
Paiste sounds good... but seriously, budget quite tight...

oh yeah, not 4getting..
except for putting on Mutepad, any other way can reduce the sound?
cuz i really cuz i will piss my neighbour off...

mutepad got comes wif for the bassdrum 1? cuz i never saw b4...

hope u guyz dun mind 4 askin 2 much.. i really need help...

You can get a tama imperialstar for RM2000 at theguitarstore Sri Hartamas. dont worry bout the drumhead logo, cos you'll replace it eventually anyway...

The Pearl FX you can get for RM2100 at TGS sri hartamas, with cymbals, dvd, throne etc.

For Pearl EX if you want... one guy on lowyat (metalsam_666) is selling his pearl export in charcoal mettallic for only RM2150 without stands... if you manage to get the stands it'll still be A pretty good deal.

HQ percussion makes soundoff drum mutes the cancel 95% of the sound and they have a box set with Cymbal mutes, hi hat mutes, tom and snare mutes and bass drum mute. costs bout more than RM250 i think... ask namqul, he got some recently....

Also Sabian makes theyre practice disks and cymbal mute practice mutes. They sell the tom/snare pack and the cymbal pack seperately, and it blocks out 90% of the sound so you can hear slightly more compared with the sound of the HQ percussions.

so for the mutes it depends on how much sound do you want?
the sabian one looks good cos it'll be soft but loud enough for you to hear. =D

btw: most of the prices i stated are quoted by tgs sri hartamas... all other shops im not sure.

wow.. thats a very nice price..

u mean the Pearl FX is Pearl Forum?

for u, u would choose the FX or Imperialstar?

I prefer brand new drumset.. not that i care about it's used anot... juz i duno y i prefer brand new...
any Pearl EX still available around kl or selangor?

got the mutepads, i dun wish it would reduce so much of the noise.. at least i can hear the sound..
it's mainly like loud enough for me to hear, soft enough to avoid pissing my neighbour...

i need mutepad for bass drum..
cuz normally i saw mutepad oso w/o the bass drum 1..
i heard JS Music selling Vic Firth mutepad... including bass drum 1..
but i duno how izit...

actually, item selling in TGS sri hartamas quite reasonable price... will drop by n take a look soon after my exam..
the location is around where?

anyway, i cant find the link where metalsam_666 selling the Pearl EX woh...

p.s. nintendo, u really helped me alot.. thx!

well, you CAN get a pearl Export new, but itll be RM2750+
and yea FX:Forum...

TGS sri hartamas is around uncle dons and Lotte mart...
theres info on the site: http://theguitarstore.com.my

and ur welcome for the help.... im happy to help someone else for a change... =)

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Added on March 26, 2008, 1:05 amOH! dudee... im sorry... the pearl export has been soldd... but heres another good deal on a pearl export..

this ones RM2500 nego WITH cymbals and stands (actually better deal than the other one)

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...hl=pearl+export

this is a pretty good deal! but if your SERIOUSLY not comfortable with buying used then just get a new one at tgs... but just fyi, i recently bought my drumset used and it turned out great... so i think its safe to say that buying used isnt too badd

This post has been edited by -Nintedo Wii-: Mar 26 2008, 01:07 AM

ok got it...

anyway, i noe where izit edi..
and they have another showroom in damansara perdana, which is quite near my house...
will go there check it out when im free...

i think i will go for Tama Imperialstar..
since im not pro...
dun think that i would go 4 expensive drumset 1st...

Imperialstar with the price RM2k...
really nice...
my budget is below 3k with cymbals..
so i think this shud b okay...


actually, i saw this set quite sum times ago...
mayb im a little fussy.. i dun really like the color...PURPLE!!
but the price is really so tempting...

buying used got its pros n cons lor..
good is they change the drumheads n stuff...
it will sound nicer...
bad is old edi... jz lk mayb scratch, crack n stuff u duno... datz y...

sigh..
i still hav lots more to learn on drumming...

well... as long as the product is in good condition, you should be fine.
but if ur interested in the imperialstar, you could get it with stagg DH hats, DH crash, and a DH ride and that would already be a GOOD combo. but im not sure about the price, could actually be more mahal. ur best bet is to go with Sabian B8's.... i got them and the sound is great!

dont get brass cymbals. totally not worth it.

i got used cymbals but then polished it with some Pro Mark Groove Juice JR cymbal Polish.... now they look good and they sound new!

I honestly think that purple set is a steal. The colour is cool lah - if you keep telling yourself that then you'll eventually believe so =S
If you want, I could go with you to test the kit out?
I live in KJ too.

its not just purple dude, its shining shimmering purple. lol. anyway, bout the practice pads, its good. it does come with a bass drum mute. i dont know how to measure how many percentage it block or mute or muffle the sounds, but hell it really reduce them much. ppl from the next room only hear a bit of knocking like u hitting with some beat on a table. and ppl from next door definitely hears nothing. the only thing that i dont like with it is that im too lazy to take off the mutes if i wanted to play loud. but as you can see, its just me because im lazy. haha. owh, another thing, my hats are 13' and the mute only comes in 14' hats and can fit up to 15'. so no mute for my hats.

plus dude if ur budget is 3k.... you could get the used EX (which ususally costs RM2750 WITHOUT cymbals OR throne) you could use the extra 500 bucks for ur drum mutes...

than after you get the mutes, you'll still have another 200++ bucks, which you can either keep or get more extra's...

plus i think the purple is pretty cool.... well its different...

i waaas actually considering this drumset... but when i asked it was RM3200....
this dude lowered the price already so its a pretty mnice deal.... otherwise you could check it out first

i dunwan to get very good cymbals 1st until my skill get better...
but stagg shud be okay...

Party2DMax: u live in KJ 2? nice... u really gonna test the kit out?

Namqul: may i noe wut mutepad u using? cuz sabian 1 w/o bassdrum 1... datz y...
how much u bought ur mutepad?
i thinkin of getting for the whole set including the hats n bass drum...
any suggestion?

Nintendo: bro, 2750+500, where got 200 extra more left? haha...

my budget is 3k includes drumset, throne, cymbals n oso mutepads... datz y i think i will go for imperialstar...

oh yeah, for 13' hats n 14' hats, which 1 do u think betta?
how to differentiate?

and for a normal drumset, there r 16' crash n 20' ride, rite?

if i wanna add an additional cymbal, wut shud i add?
18' crash? or wut?

wuts da price range for sabian B8?

firstly, dude i said it NORMALLY (if you buy new) costs rm2750. but if you buy it used from this dude, its RM2500, and then you'll have an extra RM500.

with the extra 500, you'll spend around 300 bucks on mutes so...
RM3000-RM2500-RM300=RM200! so you'd have the drumset, throne,cymbals,mutes and i'll add that the Pearl Export is much better than the imperialstar, and you'll still have RM200

if you get the imperialstar, its RM2000+RM300(for mutes)+RM600-1000 for cymbals= RM2900-RM3300...

so the exports a better deal. unless you are REALLY uncomfortable with buying used/ purple.

but valuewise the used deal is better. its cheaper, better, and you'll have extra for saving up or whatever.

=D

Sorry you misquoted me...

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Added on March 27, 2008, 11:55 pmcos even staggs (if you dont want the crappy brass ones) costs at least 600 bucks.

This post has been edited by -Nintedo Wii-: Mar 27 2008, 11:55 PM

i dunno bout dis but my dad straight bought me a pearl master custom with zildjian titanium cymbals with pearl iron cobra , when i first started drums. he said that buy 1 dun need buy again . CAn use for practicing and for performance too

WTF! pearl master custom?! holy shit man... thats insane... you better get be like really good mann... or else itll be such a waste!

shit thats craazy... and its TAMA iron cobra not pearl. pearl makes the eliminator series, TAMA makes the ic's.
that mustve cost like 10k++

got my hq mute set for rm282. a set for fusion kit. 14"/15"hats, which im using for my crash now coz my hat is 13", dang!, 20" for ride, 16"/18" for another crash, 14" for snare, 10",12" n 14" for toms. and an adjustable mute for bass.

forgot to add, i went to LS music (Yamaha) ampang point the other day, after the best discount and nego with the guy there, he wanted to sell me b8 pro set for 1380, thats 14"hats, 16"crash n 20"ride. i end up not buying. lol poor guy there i waste his time. hehe.

can share dad with me ah? dang. why dont he go the same with cymbals? buy 1 time don need buy again?

This post has been edited by Namqul: Mar 28 2008, 03:13 PM

do ur father wants to adopt any kids....if he is please consider me,
i can be a good son

i think u r my long lost brother dude

u make me rofl............

hye don8ld! would you mine share your drums' pic here? i would also love to know the specs of ur Masters (the woodply config, sizes, etc)
thanks!!!

i can share the pic but config size no idea

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Added on March 29, 2008, 6:51 pmi can share the pic but config size no idea

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Added on March 29, 2008, 6:52 pm

This post has been edited by don8ld: Mar 29 2008, 06:52 PM

grab the pearl EX and spray color urself ....lol
realli nice kit...
/aaaa

wahhhhh!!! yours is

MMX (100% maple) in Diamond Burst Finish with Black Hardware
4ply shells with 4ply reinforcement rings
sizes would be
22"x18" Kick
12"x9" & 13"x10" Toms
16"x16" Floor toms

p/s: pls inform me if you want to quit drumming

thats right ... Dude if u 1 to practice with yr music when playing drum wat do u use?

iTunes...lol

my cheapo Philips Headphone with my Dell Laptop of course. im thinking of buying Behringer mixer to put my metronome together with the music from laptop.

don8ld: wow.. nice drumset...

anyway, thx for the info everyone..

for a beginner, wut cymbals shud i get?

1. Sabian B8 Pro
2. Zildjian ZBT
3. Paiste 101

may i noe the price as well?

wuts da diff between brass n bronze cymbals?
which 1 sounds nicer?

i tot of getting Paiste 101 or Paiste 201
1 is brass n 1 is bronze...

any idea?

neither of them...
don't get brass cymbals also...
hmm, sound not nice and crack easily?
get stagg instead...
SH and DH will do. cheap oso!

i have stagg 8" SH Splash and 10" SH China and they both sound great!
wana get another 14" DH exo and 18" china later...
but the denial guy dont have stock... T_T

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Added on April 1, 2008, 3:04 amcheck out
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=655413&hl=stagg
n
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=620820&hl=stagg

2 guys selling...


This post has been edited by pokgaizai: Apr 1 2008, 03:04 AM

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got it bro..
but wuts the different between Stagg SH n DH?

brass cymbals really that bad? haha...

i wanted to get the Paiste 201 pack...
any1 knows the price?
where to get it?

anyway..

pokgaizai: i reply ur msg at here instead of the drum thread, k?

ur mini drumset is different from the 1 u found in lelong... urs is much higher quality n detailed...

lelong 1 is jz cheap, ugly n bad quality 1.. i have 1..

u try to search on Ebay..
those really nice n good quality 1...
hehe...

a studio near my house where my band always jam have a set of Paiste 201 cymbals. Frankly speaking, i like the hats better than my previous Sabian Pro hats. It has just nice chick sound and double stroke's sound on it is very clear... Great buy for the price. Btw, i dont use the crashes because i use my own. As for the ride, its really too bright sounding for me.

This post has been edited by kari_convention: Apr 2 2008, 07:49 AM

sabian pro? b8 pro or sonix?

SH- Single Hammered - A dark sounding series of cymbals in regular finish, available in medium regular weight only.
DH DUAL HAMMERED SERIES
A highly versatile cymbal series for the more demanding player. Stagg DH series undergo an extra complex hand-hammering method to create cymbals with well-balanced overtones.
Stagg further expanded the DH series of cymbals to offer the most complete range of sounds.
[Copied from JS Music website]

paiste...
bentley shud be hav?
in melaka , daniel music shop selling....
last time i almost bought the Paiste 201 pack also....
around RM700~800


the mini drumset lelong selling RM81.90 !!

This post has been edited by pokgaizai: Apr 2 2008, 08:09 PM

none of u mention above. its a discontinued model before B8 Pro and Pro Sonix come out. Its in between B8 and AA model.


its still pretty much soughted in Japan market because its cheap price and good rock sounding. I've already sold my Sabian Pro hats and ride recently because i want to upgrade all my cymbals to higher end Zildjian.

This post has been edited by kari_convention: Apr 2 2008, 07:39 PM

So how's it going with the drums?

You might be interested in this:
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-04D...ale_RM1_800.htm

thx bro pokgaizai for the info...

im very interested in paiste 201 pack...
still dun hv time to drop by bentley n check them out...

yeah.. price is rm81.90 summore low quality...
u go search on ebay 1.. nicer...

Party2DMax: not really interested in 2nd hand drum bro... now im lookin for brand new Pearl Export wif a nice price... hehe.. but thx anyway...

dude, im using paiste 201, for me its pretty decent than the 101...i recommend if u wanna buy these cymbal...for crash try looking for 16 inch and above.

coz the 14' crash, the steel sound its quite obvious, and one thing about the 201, its really thick and durable. just my personal opinion

like everyone said, the more the cymbal age the nicer the tone are...tips from a drum tutor(not me, its my friend), dont polish ur cymbal if it has that stick and hand print stain. if u like more of a soothing tone from the cymbal.

hope this help

This post has been edited by albarb: Apr 7 2008, 11:03 AM

mind to tell where did u get paiste 201 n how much u got it?
i tried to ask bentley but not available in bentley...

i bought it at bently last year...i think i heard someone said to me they already stop
making the 201 and 101 series...14' crash,16' crash, 20 ride, 14 hats.....total almost RM1000.
recently, i find bentley is getting worst and worst...especially on drum section. they did not update
their stock...they dont bring in the hot selling product. its getting frustrated.
but i still consider bentley drum product cheaper compare to others. the condition is u must buy more
than one item to get good discount.

the last time i bought export series...the price is the same as forum 2500. for the most friendly
sales person, js is the best.

wow... for 201, 14' crash + 16' crash + 20' ride + 14' hats = RM1000 is kinda cheap...
cuz they quote me a price, for paiste 101 set, which means 16' crash, 20' ride and 14' hats, price is RM700...
really not worth for 101 as they are juz brass cymbals...
bentley is selling cheap? sure? but i heard alot of ppl said bentley sell those things quite expensive.. compare to TGS...

i only saw 101 in TGS but dun hav 201...

anyway, pearl export is selling 2750rm in TGS before discount... wut do u think i can get after discount?

what u think about Sabian B8 then?
compare with Paiste 201 then?
which 1 betta?

b8 and 201...ok, this is just my personal view, there's not much different between both of them,
sound wise maybe they have they own characteristic, b4 this i'm thinking of buying the b8, maybe i just wanna try something else, coz sabian is to overrated. thats why i bought the paiste.
but i still like sabian cymbal...just experimenting different brand.

dude, dont go for export...go for vision..much much much more better
export already discontinue...so its hard, when lets say u wanna upgrade
the kit. seriously dude, sound of vision is superb for mid range kit.

i tried the vision just by tapping it with my fingers..and the tone came out is really good.
this is just by tapping it with finger. the price is only 3500++...for me is pretty decent for
a mid range level kit.

but if tgs offer u the export less than 2400, grab it.

is it the Vision in natural birch finish in Bentley? yeah man.. the drums look awesome. I wish i can play it but too bad Bentley doesnt allow people to try their drums. Bentley is actually waiting for their Pearl shipment and maybe Tama also come to our shore this end of April.. so that might explains why their drums section is not up to date. but for me, if you really want anything which not in the store, you can always order from them but of course you must put some deposit to it. Ive ordered alot of things from them which is not available in the store and they will call you as soon as your stuffs have arrived. So far, I think Bentley is the best shop to buy drums stuffs. (Js come second )

ahha. option wise yes because the shop is bigger n carries more stuff. but service wise i have to go with js. and they even let you try most of the thing on display there which to me is a very2 good. and there is always a warm welcome from the staff there. if js provide pearl stuff, i think you might change your mind. lol~

i like TGS... i go there every friday and saturday for guitar and drums class, theyre really friendly and always give good discounts.... i was looking at the pearl forum last time at bentley... the guy said he could give me a discount from RM2400 to RM2100! and imperialstar from RM2300 to 2000! but then i bought my drums 2nd hand though... they sell pearl, tama, stagg, zildjian, sabian, paiste, most stuff laa...

but alot of stuff that arent sold at most places are sold at js, i guess... cos JS is the only place i've ever seen that carries DW, PDP, Gibraltar, Axis and gretsch etc...

but i guess bentley has more choice... but my favourite is TGS still...

I can hardly see Vision in market...
but 3500 is already out of my budget bro...

Export for me this noob, is enuff i guess... cuz actually at 1st my budget is 3k for everything...
but then now i think i would go for betta cymbals such as Paiste 201 n Sabian B8...
so i bring up my budget to 3.5k...

if im getting Vision... i'm gonna start starving til july... lolx..

anyone can tell wut so bad about Export?
wut do u mean by hard to upgrade? can elaborate?

there is no problem about Export.. its just that this series has been discontinued by Pearl and replaced by the new Vision which is made from 100% birch or maple wood.. Export only made out of Poplar shell and Phillipine Mahogany (earlier Export). what does he mean is for example you buy the basic 12", 13", 16" 22" configuration and if let say someday you want to try adding 10" tom to your set, you might have a problem to get the tom because Pearl already stop producing it. But i believe if you have the money, you can always check on eBay to search for one.

from my last visit to Bentley, there is one Pearl Export EX Black on Black 8", 10", 12", 13", 16" and 22" configuration lying on the store. you can always call them and ask for the price.

yup...that's what im talking about...if u wanna add more toms...its quite hard to find, maybe if u found it, its hard to find the same color or something,but anything else no prob. this is only my personal view. but like i said, if the price for export is reasonable for u, dont wait any longer...just grab that sexy beast.

just for ur info, if u wanna buy zildjian cymbal, dont buy the zbt or zxt...buy the zht series. much more better. this is what bently sales person recommend, he said the sound of steel for zbt & zxt is quite obvious.

ohh... I tot hardware problem at 1st for the Export...
well... if i were to add, i think i will add a 10" only...

and may i noe the ZHT series how much?
cuz my budget is 700-900 for cymbals...

datz y i was planning to get Sabian B8 or Paiste 201...

for hardware,we can alway get replacement coz basically its all
the same basic thing, can even u gilbratar hardware
last time i check zht 1500+, for 1 set (1 crash,1 ride,pair of hat),
but still can get discount, b8 i think is around 1200 for a set.

i bought the paiste individualy..i dont know whether it came in
set or not. i think the paiste alpha series came in a set, but i dont
know the price and never test it before.

B8 need around 1200rm?!
wow... i asked my fren, he said around 900rm..
i noe paiste 101 is 700rm... the price is quoted from bentley..
but they currently out of stock for paiste 201...
for sabian b8, im not sure where can i get the best deal...

as i said, my budget for cymbals is around 700-900rm...
budget so tight...

if im getting Peace or GC drums... cymbals i buy zildjian titanium oso no prob.. lolx...

Zildjian titanium or the ZXT sounds awful. i'd prefer playing brass cymbal rather than playing on that super metallic sounding cymbal.

bro, last 2 years my friend recommend me not to buy the peace drum, i never try it b4..but it looks like they try to copy pearl...go for pdp, entry level is quite reasonable and ok.

yea man...
dont go peace... tried it at euphony ikano... the BIRCH one, it sucked
pearl export is nice but yea i guess if you get the export then your budget 4 cymbals will drop...

how bout the PDP EX? it looks really nice...

i dont know about Peace drums as i never get a chance to play them. As for PDP, i love the drum built, the finishes, and most importantly the sound. But their hardware, (hihat stand, kick pedal and cymbal stand) seriously need a better attention. Its hard to operate and its clearly using low quality material. Unlike Pearl hardware which is very smooth and easy to operate.

true, for alternative u just buy the pdp shell, and used gilbratar hardware...i think its much more
expensive ...muahahahah. Just giving u some option and suggestion dude. pearl hardware is really good. like kari..i am also a pearl junky, but still open for other option.

Pearl Drums, the ONLY reason to play drums!

I bought a set of ZHT for RM1400
very great cymbals ...

personally, i like Tama or Pearl only...
as kari said, Pearl, the only reason to play drums... lol...
for me this kinda noob, i aint getting expensive drumset...
tama imperialstar or pearl export will do...

and... hmm.. for this moment... i think i dun need a set of very expensive cymbals...
datz y i think i will go for paiste 201 or sabian b8 only...

juz that i need to noe which 1 is betta for its price...

i really duno where can i get paiste 201.. bentley is out of stock..

its not about expensive or showing off(maybe showing off a little laa ),but the
satisfaction of having and playing in a quality drum kit is beyond everything.
trust me when u already buy your kit and start exploring it, u will hunger for quality
rather than quantity.

but i like the way u think, starts from bottom going up...its easier to learn, u will be
more expose, if i didn't bought my first crappy kit, i think i will not gain any exposure
coz when we start with small stuff, we will automatically seeking bigger, advance and
quality stuff. just my 2 kupang.

good luck on your search and do update us on what u discover.



This post has been edited by albarb: Apr 10 2008, 11:25 PM

thx bro...
seriously, start from bottom is a good practice...
and i really agree wif wut u said...

where got ppl juz start to play guitar then buy a PRS custom-24? lolx...
normally ppl starts wif Kapok guitar... or Yamaha acoustic...

when my skill become betta, i will get a betta kit (of coz! )...
now.. i cant master quantity yet... still wanna hunt for quality mer? lolx..

actually, u guyz did help me a lot already...
really tq to everyone...

get joey jordison pearl export kit . cheers

yup, pdp comes with crappy hardware. but the higher ends ones should come with better hardware, its the entry lvls that comes with the unbelievably thin stands n squeaking hihat stand. lol.

why dont you go with gretsch? i would encourage you to buy a good kit, and for starters, just get hold of any cheap cymbals that you can. and once you realize that it sounds crappy, then u can start thinking to change your cymbals.

thats exactly what i said!
i recommended him the gretsch catalina jazz kit! that drumset is AWESOME...

hmm this threads quite active...

The tama imperialstar is a good drumset too... its not as good as the export but its 750 bucks cheaper and it basically has alot of the same... poplar shells, precise bearing edges, pretty good hardware and wrapped shells..... except the snare is steel and not poplar and it doesnt have the SST shell heat molding thing or the ISS mounts of course... but it comes with mostly the same thingss....

plus with the extra 750 bucks you could get zildjian ZHT's or Sabian XS20's or maybe meinl's

other than sabian, paiste and zildjian... check out meinl, the MCS cymbals look good... they have them at DoReMi music!
=D

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Added on April 11, 2008, 5:04 pmoh yeah and i'll add that since the export is discontinued and is the worlds most best-selling drums of all time, and this is the last model they produced (for now) in twenty years it could be a collectors item!

This post has been edited by -Nintedo Wii-: Apr 11 2008, 05:04 PM

dude, i think u should become a librarian, coz u can memorize all the review and product quote
that's good, keep on the good work..but not to be too influence by all the advertising/marketing hype.

peace

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Added on April 11, 2008, 11:03 pmdude, i think u should become a librarian, coz u can memorize all the review and product quote
that's good, keep on the good work..but not to be too influence by all the advertising/marketing hype.

peace

This post has been edited by albarb: Apr 11 2008, 11:03 PM

2day went to bentley..
they r having promotion...

i checked the price... Paiste 201 set RM1100...
at Beatspot, Sabian B8 set RM1230...
Zildjian ZBT set (included 18" china), RM1125...

stuff selling in Beatspot all nett price? non-nego?
sigh...
my budget for cymbals is below 1k...
tot i can get at around rm900.. but all over my budget...

beat spot can discount but not even reach 10%. try ls music (yamaha melawati, ampang, kajang, putrajaya). they can give better discount for cymbals.

ls music brings in wut brand cymbals?
wow.. the location so far...

may i noe where is the ls music putrajaya?
izit inside Alamanda that yamaha?
got sabian cymbals?

ls music is yamaha shop (yamaha melawati, ampang, kajang, putrajaya) they are under LS Music. they are under different management from yamaha music or beat spot. and they do carry sabian cymbals. maybe some wuhan.

owhh.. so they're really not a Yamaha shop? Ive been to Ampang Point, Alamanda, KL Plaza (now close alrdy), Subang Jaya, and the latest one is Mid Valley. For me, the new Yamaha shop at MidValley has the best stuffs. Last time i went there they got some signature snares such as Elvin Jones but its really expensive!!!! The Ampang Point once got Yamaha Oak Custom which cost near 10K for a 5 piece set.. not sure snare is included.. Yamaha makes a decent drumsets but they are price is waaaayyy too high.

they are yamaha. but under different management. if you observe the things in their shop, u can tell the difference. for example, drums, some ls music have other brands like trapts, maxtone or peavey and for cymbals, they have headliner brass, some wuhan, and staggs too. but yamaha music only carries yamaha drums and sabian cymbals. midvalley is beatspot which is under yamaha music. the headquarters is in kelana jaya and its sure is nicer since its newer and the things there are still new. hehe. never been to beatspot curve tho. hows the drum section there?

i like the beatspot in the curve... they have lots of sabian cymbals...
checked out the sabian B8's and yeah theyre alot more expensive than i thought... and i dont think zbt's are that good bytheway...

zildjian ZBT is really cheap for 4-piece pack since rm1250 is the price b4 discount...
sabian b8 is rm1230...

i will drop by LS Music Alamanda to check out those cymbals soon..

i just wish to get either sabian b8 or paiste 201 below rm1000..
duno possible anot...
really out of my budget...

p.s. yesterday nite went to CSI music jamming... oh man... the drumset sux!!! i fixed the damn hihat for half an hour... really sux...

ur looking for b8 pack? which one? 1230 is the regular pricing is it? if it is, dont expect it to go beyond 1100 for discount. that is about 10 percent which is usually they can give lowest for. unless u have dealt or know someone, u might get a lower price. and even so, i think lowest is 1050. if its your lucky day, might get to as low as 985. thats the furthest u can push the price. at least that is what i think.

hey dude... check out burgercis, hes selling cymbals... he might have a good deal for you... hes selling stagg, sabian and zildjian

pls pls pls stay away from ZBT and Planet Z. Eventho they are Zildjian, they are really2 sucks and sound like you hitting some tin can.

thx, namqul... and yeah, 1230rm is the price b4 discount for B8...

i think i will pm burgercis n ask abt it...

kari: haha... every1 oso said that ZBT n Planet Z suck.... even i read the review on internet, ppl claimed ZBT's quality is super duper bad n sounds like hitting metal... lolx...

yeah man.. i always jam at SS19 studio (SYS-EX) and their studio A have a very nice sounding old Export (90s) with quality heads.. BUT the drums use ZBT ride. and too bad i dont have any ride at the moment.

SS19? never been there...
what i meant was SS15 there...
the studio called CSI Studio...
just opposite Darussalam...

PaiSte Rude Cymbals ROCK.. GO JOEY !!

lolx...
way over my budget, dude..

anyway, wut u guyz think abt Paiste PST3? cuz the price is slightly cheaper than 201... i checked it on9...

why dont you try buying separately? if you really are in a very tight budget, heres my recommendation. 1st, for crash, tried stagg 14' dh exo before? it should not be more then 160 and i strongly recommend that. u cant get even crappy brass with that price and beats hell out of it. then for hats, u might want to get something like b8 pro which cost bout 580. then, i guess u have no choice but to settle with solar ride costing 190. thats a total of 930. if you go nag n bargain, im quite sure u can get it around 900. the extra budget, u can always get a splash, if its stagg, it can be as low as 100. so thats 1k. yeah u get a crappy ride, but for starters i personally think its fine. plus your hats n crash is not so crappy and still got another splash to play around with, with extra 200/300 for stands/clamps. personally, that is what i would do. others might differ tho.

buying separately is good.. but if you're on a tight budget, it will take ages to complete it. (like me)

haha..
yeah i know...
but then buyin separately cost quite alot oso...
i just dun wish to get another cymbals so soon..
i wish to get some cymbals that i can play for at least few years (this might me a lil bit too long...lolx...)...

so i thought of getting Paiste 201..
since Paiste 201 is not that pricey and it worths its price...
this is the reason...

i duno u all understand wut im trying to say anot..
haha...