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the_catacombs
post Apr 15 2008, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(ESeong @ Apr 15 2008, 05:22 PM)
Side-gaped can give good fc also ah ? or the lousy wan also same wan ?
got point le... means we take the most old oil filter.. then will have good/nice fc tongue.gif
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similar fc with added performance... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(merzchan @ Apr 15 2008, 05:26 PM)
air filter is on the top big circle.
oil filfer is on the bottom & look like silider.
fuel filter is plastic lookalike thingy on the bottom of the wind shield.
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correction..

fuel filter is a plastic thing located at the firewall...

QUOTE(ESeong @ Apr 15 2008, 05:30 PM)
4g13p is saga/iswara engine ah ? or what lai de ?
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4g13 is engine code lor.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 05:53 PM)
catacomb, I feel the sidegapped copper spark plug more good that platinium de.. I tomorrow gonna test again cause today when wanna test, JPJ ronda ada.. When clear, polis ada. So give up no try. But 1 thing I realize, the speed drop so fast when you release the gas pedal.
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ya ke??... but ronnie said sidegapped platinum plugs feels nicer at high revs compare to copper wor....
haha.. dunno la.... thats why i recommend sidegap copper plugs.... more performance increase from standard copper plugs.... smile.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(ESeong @ Apr 15 2008, 05:42 PM)
really ? how much sidegapped cost ah ?
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 06:39 PM)
It more smooth to rev above 4k but then not so power like copper spark plug.. The sound not so terrible although at 5k. Tomorrow baru really try.. Hehe..
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got real try and fake try one ah??.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Apr 15 2008, 08:28 PM)
what about Nology silver sparkplugs?... anyone tried b4?... how is it?
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this one ah??...
http://www.nology.com/silver.html

havent seen any dealer for this sparkplug so far...

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Apr 15 2008, 08:35 PM)
garage got ppl sell
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/649745/+20&#entry16772527
increase 15bhp....with dyno chart
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ask him to sau pei lah...
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Apr 15 2008, 09:05 PM)

Added on April 15, 2008, 9:09 pmsky@
tat day u intro which type weber?
DGV or DCOE?
i still sakit kepala which to go.
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i intro dcnf ler.... easier to tune... more common among mechanics (but not many know how to tune la).... dgv kinda rare and complicated.... not many mechanic know its existance.... twin dcoe abit extreme adi.... many mechanics know what is it but dont dare to touch the settings as it is much much more complicated... need to syncro both weber together.... sweat.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 09:10 PM)
not real try.. Got officer ma. hehe. Tomorrow try.
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rempit together gether with the officer la... icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 09:26 PM)
First, I dunno that jpj ronda beside me de. Then when I climb the hill and going into highway, I rev damn 9 and the exhaust so loud already.. 2nd gear at around 85km/h. Then I see that 4wd blue in colour and got warning light de.. Then I straight away from 2nd gear shift to 4th gear to reduce the sound. Then when him pass by, I follow behind him and rev higher abit, that jpj ronda turn on warning light. I was thinking, this time sure dulan already... But then I see the jpj ronda speeding toward a trailer in 2nd lane.. So I overtake the jpj ronda and went off... Then in later on the way to autogen, got 2 police car pulak.. Slow down again.. then lazy to test liao. tomorrow baru test.
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 09:35 PM)
tomorrow early in da morning go try. hehe.. wait for my feedback.
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alite... haha.... jz now i rempit till 5k plus... choke abit leh... i think got carbon buildup at my plugs again... need to remove it and clean... kanasai... despo wanna overhaul adi... rclxub.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Apr 15 2008, 09:39 PM)
nvm la change new plug... if change new plug cant help change new engine...
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lolz... plugs still can use mah... used few months nia... take out clean clean abit den can lor.... later rempit again see how.... i removed my air filter for washing jz now.... rempit without filter, can hear the sound syok wooo.... hahaha....
but low end choke abit... mayb it needs abit of backpressure for low end torque... sweat.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 09:39 PM)
Now you said above choke hor, when use back the side gapped platinium, it no choke at higher rpm oh. While cooper, it choke. Hehe.


Added on April 15, 2008, 9:40 pm
is TOMEI.. WE BUILD NEW ENGINE..  biggrin.gif
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no money use sidegapped platinum la... saving up saving up... boh lui now... rclxub.gif

tomei is a tuning and performance workshop/company mar.... they offer complete tomei upgrade kit for new engines.... same goes to hks and others... need special request lar, and the price of coz rclxub.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Apr 15 2008, 09:47 PM)
not upgrade kit woh but they build complete engine woh i read the ad from mag

wah everyday rempit... i pump fuel also no money le... PTPTN not enough spend le... kaya man u all...
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yala... if an aftermarket performance tuning company say build complete engine means with tuning and upgrades lor.... takkan they still wanna build the engine when there's a ready made engine from car manufacturer...
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Apr 15 2008, 09:53 PM)
i know but if i wan find brand new 4G13P or 4G15P or 4G93 can get?
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buy from proton... i think they still have kua... not too sure.... price, expect to be in 5 digits... last time a workshop repairs patrol cars, they bought a brand new campro engine from proton for the patrol car... cost more than rm10k.... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 09:57 PM)
Platinium G-power I bought it for Rm42 only If I remember...

I more funny.. Today when I install the spark plug, the last spark plug being block by the air filter box and the cai. So I longgarkan it.. Then i forget to screw back and I just drive it. Then the engine in front so noisy.. Then only remember I forget tighten the air filter box. Luckily the nut didn't drop..  sweat.gif
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lebih kurang that price lor.... still expensive for me... i slow driver use standard plugs enough lor... car also stock standard mar... sad.gif


Added on April 15, 2008, 10:02 pm
QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Apr 15 2008, 09:59 PM)
btw guys,...regarding that silver core sparkplug, ya'll might find it interesting to look up the melting point of silver
and the check for the combustion temperatures in the cylinder wink.gif
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what is the normal combustion temperature in the cylinder??.. unsure.gif

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post Apr 15 2008, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 10:02 PM)
macam perli saya jer..  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  My car stock standard also use platinium.. But now, copper spark plug still winning in my mind.. I gonna try it kaw kaw tomorrow.. Copper give me better pick up. RPM climb smooth and the speed climb as well.. While the platinium, the rpm climb more smooth, but then speed like not climbing.  sweat.gif
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if compare to standard platinum, sidegapped platinum plugs lagi teruk??... unsure.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 10:08 PM)
errr... can said so..  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

But maybe I kena racun by copper spark plug already.That why tomorrow I wanna test again. Cause climb hill like no power.  sweat.gif RPm climb smooth, but power not smooth.
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haha.... u test test first and see lor ok??... wink.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 10:27 PM)
sure ok. hehe... I read your paper inside the box and I dun even know what you are counting on the ntoe. hahaha...
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what paper??... blink.gif

ooo... rough paper aje... wanna throw away adi... might as well throw to u... laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(darude87 @ Apr 15 2008, 10:31 PM)
gapping make it worse? o.O

err, what's the sequence of spark plug according to performance?
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noler... gapping make it best.... icon_rolleyes.gif

what sequence u want in sparkplug??... sparkplug got sequence??... blink.gif

QUOTE(andychan @ Apr 15 2008, 10:38 PM)
stock standard kononnya  whistling.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Apr 15 2008, 11:03 PM)
if onli eibach got produce spring for our car.. haha
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post Apr 15 2008, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 11:09 PM)
I saw some wira abs can put on saga iswara de. Izit real?
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that one need mods to fit mar...
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post Apr 15 2008, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(darude87 @ Apr 15 2008, 11:20 PM)
err.. what i mean was performance sequence

like platinum > copper > normal    or how is it suppose to be?
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sidegapped plugs = sidegapped plugs = sidegapped plugs laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Apr 15 2008, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Apr 15 2008, 11:22 PM)
last time i saw 1 using KONI adjustable for wira used on iswara.. but have to mod.. sky u should who is tat
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koni adjustable on saga??... who is that??... unsure.gif unsure.gif
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post Apr 16 2008, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Apr 15 2008, 11:30 PM)
sure u tak tau? same uni wit u wan wor
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baq??... hmm.gif hmm.gif

he using RS suspension wor...

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 15 2008, 11:35 PM)
Da*n.. You and Catacomb got wat hubung har?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  Seem like got hubung sulit... Be careful oh. Later piston guy come, dua dua kena sumbat piston.
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QUOTE(ESeong @ Apr 15 2008, 11:53 PM)
singchaii.. i waiting for ur feedback lo.. i also kena racun dy..

dunno my style driving ok not ?

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if u want save petrol, rev till 2.5k enough lor...
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post Apr 16 2008, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 16 2008, 12:06 AM)
I exchange the speed with you la.

1st gear 5k rpm 50km/h
2nd gear 5k rpm 85km/h
3rd gear 5k rpm 110km/h
4th gear 5k rpm 120km/h
5th gear 5.5k rpm at 180km/h

All tested with catacomb copper spark plug. No joke, no blow water.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ESeong @ Apr 16 2008, 12:09 AM)
wtf ? wtf ? wtf ? wtf ? wtf ?

really rev so kao lat ?

sifu cat.. really 2.5k ? tml i try tongue.gif 2.5k will make the car shake le.. like tak cukup speed
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5k also kao lat meh??... my mech rev mine till 7k i also havent bising him.... i usually rev (if rempit la) till 6k plus.... tongue.gif

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