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post Apr 10 2008, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 10 2008, 04:32 PM)
Heart transplant? Do at IJN ar? =P

UGPM~~ Got cuci bersih bersih boh? hehe
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no need cuci lah... black color also can use geh... no carbon sticking on it can adi lor...
if u rajin, u go clean urself lor... but dun kacau the gap size i set adi arr.... performance jatuh i tarak jamin...
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post Apr 10 2008, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 10 2008, 04:36 PM)
kakaka.. then those small stone ler? When get, on the spot go test. hahaha.. Test jor, then use 2 copper spark plug and 2 platinium. Dunno can or not.  sweat.gif
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u try lor... hahaha... laugh.gif

QUOTE(blackpc @ Apr 10 2008, 04:51 PM)
hmm.. how to actually clean a spark plug anyway?  hmm.gif
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tu sparepart shop tauke said gosok ur berus besi...

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 10 2008, 04:52 PM)
read few page back.. Sifu catacombs said use his pee to clean.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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post Apr 10 2008, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Mcrae @ Apr 10 2008, 05:03 PM)
but why spark park manufacturer dun produce side gaped spark plug keh ? they dunno that if do that way can be more powerful tongue.gif
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bosch super 4 using similar technology... but they have 4 ground electrodes lah.... where actually u jz need 1... unless ur voltage is vr high, might be able to create 4 spark if use plugs with 4 ground electrodes...

thats why i said all plugs can do side-gapping except bosch super 4... because the design of it is already sidegapped....

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Apr 10 2008, 05:04 PM)
if they do our fren there no bisnes do already.. lol
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 10 2008, 05:06 PM)
Cause their wan give catacomb do business ma...  tongue.gif
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post Apr 10 2008, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 10 2008, 05:14 PM)
wah seh.. if able to create 4 spark, sure very geng..
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not necessary lor.... if minyak and angin tarak masuk banyak, api kasi besar also no use... whistling.gif

QUOTE(Mcrae @ Apr 10 2008, 05:18 PM)
catacomb orang ipoh wan rite  ? tongue.gif

maybe if mmu holiday i can go buy from u and help me pasang tongue.gif tongue.gif
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yea... icon_rolleyes.gif help u pasang??... hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Apr 10 2008, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Mcrae @ Apr 10 2008, 06:34 PM)
wah pasang tak termasuk dalam package arr ?  cry.gif  cry.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(Lim Ling Yang @ Apr 10 2008, 09:32 PM)
Sorry to simply budge in like this.
But has anyone realised that the new saga looks abit similar like evo ix ?
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which part of it??... sweat.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 10 2008, 09:54 PM)
mini evo.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(capiche @ Apr 10 2008, 09:56 PM)
greetings to saga/iswara owners, before i post my msg here.. do some intro, i'm theorekz@zth&sioc.... i would like to know what is the market value for a 4g13p mild cam & aerospeed cam pulley now?

thanks notworthy.gif
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yo boss... lama tak jumpa.... icon_idea.gif

which mildcam u mean??.... pipercam about rm5xx-rm6xx.... matspeed and powerzone cost more.... most of them are usually 272 degree.... u want lower got i think, but not sure if they have it or not.... unsure.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Apr 11 2008, 12:20 AM)
nope..my car is 1.5...dun wan downgrade..hehe
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if let u change 13B rotary.... still dont wanna downgrade??.. brows.gif

QUOTE(capiche @ Apr 11 2008, 07:31 AM)
haha.... really very long liao.. resign from car modding lar.. too old for fast car d.. hehe.... oh... so the price still maintain there lar... cause i'm considering of selling off my piper mild cam... 272/269 if i'm not mistaken.... so now scouting for resell value...
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272 consider mild cam for u huh??... haha.... den u should have taken cipan's previous highcams, 292 degree.... lolz...

offer singchaii la.... he looking for highcams... icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 11 2008, 09:35 AM)
Sifu, after I go see about highcam hor, I got many offer.. Some custom make de also wan me Rm800.. And their told me something I and I dunno what that.. What mean REGRIND cam? and another 1 forget is what jor.  sweat.gif  Their told me if wan for street use, then get 262 or 264 oh... Matspeed de more hardcore. can use in street and racing, 264 or 272. And their also told me, if change highcam is MUST to have adj cam pulley as well.. Or else, hard to retard.  sweat.gif
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^^ theoreks selling his pipercams... 272 degree geh... consider mild compare to matspeed.... nego nego with him ler...

regrind cams means they take normal cams and regrind the cam lobe so u can have longer duration cams.... another one is called billet cams... billet cams are fully aluminium... lightweight and more expensive.... powerzone, matspeed and pipercams are regrind cams.... if u want billet cams, try get from RPW.... expect the price to be double... haha....

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 11 2008, 01:02 PM)
some mech around my house... You go mod your weber dulu la.. Haha... I dun think change to high cam is mod abit. Haha..
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highcam also consider plug n play item mar.... icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(ESeong @ Apr 11 2008, 01:50 PM)
that cam for wat ? performance ?
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QUOTE(capiche @ Apr 11 2008, 02:27 PM)
haha.. without my beloved dcnf.. the mild cam doesnt serve any purpose in my 4g13p.. haha... cipan's is a high cam.... try asking hatta whether his cam is for sale o not.. from pz as far as i know..
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hahaha... hatta's setup now complete adi... dont think he gonna sell his cams ler.... wanna know what's his setup now??.. icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 11 2008, 03:07 PM)
Oh.. then can use our STOCK normal cams to regrind mou?

Highcam is for performance de. Give you piston move more.  tongue.gif
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yeap... standard cams can regrind... but not diy regrind lar... u need cnc machine to do it....
normal workmanship for cnc machine usage is about rm30 bucks per hour.... machining something 5cm height needs 6 hours plus.... u think machining a camshaft needs how long and how much the cost leh??.. brows.gif

highcam allows air/fuel mixture to enter ur combustion chamber faster... icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(blackpc @ Apr 11 2008, 03:18 PM)
hi cam in stock engine boleh gain brp hp?
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can gain horsepower nod.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Apr 11 2008, 03:40 PM)
dun 1 le drink fuel like water sweat.gif
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how u know??... u experience before??.. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 11 2008, 05:39 PM)
Guy.. I feel something very curious to know. Before I changed my brake pad, my brake fluid drop half bar. But once I installed new brake pad, it became maximum back. Why ha?
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err... err.... let me think first.... hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Apr 11 2008, 08:08 PM)
hey saga owner here... 1997 version... saga hatchback 4G13P... mods: add power steering and convert to auto transmission 3gears ...
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welkam welkam....

aeroback or hatchback??... saga got hatchback version??.. hmm.gif

QUOTE(cheeann @ Apr 11 2008, 08:24 PM)
no need 2 think la~
wen his pad were new then his fluids also full~
so wen his pads worn out d hen his fluid wen down cuz he new top up~
wen he change new pads,de mechanic have 2 push back d pump in order 2 out  d new pads n tat's d fluid wen back up~
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doh.gif doh.gif

piston caliper can move in and out lar... u think the mechanic push in adi da piston wont come out meh??... sweat.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(capiche @ Apr 10 2008, 09:56 PM)
greetings to saga/iswara owners, before i post my msg here.. do some intro, i'm theorekz@zth&sioc.... i would like to know what is the market value for a 4g13p mild cam & aerospeed cam pulley now?

thanks notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(capiche @ Apr 11 2008, 07:31 AM)
haha.... really very long liao.. resign from car modding lar.. too old for fast car d.. hehe.... oh... so the price still maintain there lar... cause i'm considering of selling off my piper mild cam... 272/269 if i'm not mistaken.... so now scouting for resell value...
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singchaii... ini budak called theoreks lor....

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 11 2008, 08:57 PM)
RM30 buck per hours? If like that, mai more expensive?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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abuhden... u think regrind cams cheap ahh??...
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 11 2008, 09:40 PM)
Haha.. PM him already. =P
Then why pipercams de regrind cams can so cheap? hehe.. By the way, cams will spoiled?
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cams wont spoil lar... but if being left unused for long time exposed to air and water, beware of rust... normal cams are iron rod mah.... if aluminium no need to worry lor...

and since its metal, means it can get warped like ur disc brakes.... should say not easy to KO instead of cannot KO... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 12 2008, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 11 2008, 10:31 PM)
Buy pipercam, then sell old stock cam to besi buruk. Hehe...
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no need sell to besi buruk lah... keep it lor... incase next time u upgrade vr4, swap back ori cams and sell ur highcams lor... icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 12 2008, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Apr 12 2008, 01:27 AM)
add weber & change highcam..which better?
which save cost? i feel my car when engine hot,no power edi... sad.gif
need get CIA from SKY edi
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weber add more performance.... but drawback is a bit increase in fuel consumption... carburetor need servicing after some time for optimum performance... a few added minor drawbacks as well...
highcams abit less performance compare to weber... and it is more expensive as well... no long term maintainence...

u choose lor...

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Apr 12 2008, 02:26 AM)
is CAI la... doh.gif  doh.gif
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post Apr 12 2008, 02:46 AM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Apr 12 2008, 02:40 AM)
how to service carb?...just spray carb cleaner or overhaul it? mine havent overhaul before, already running 270K km dee... hmm.gif
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remove the whole thing and tembak with pressured airgun to shoot out dirt blocked in jettings and so on.... if clean by spraying carb cleaner also can.... but not that clean lor... usually extreme service only done when engine chokes violently.... haha... if u got use airfilter, shouldnt be a problem at least for a few years time....
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post Apr 12 2008, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Apr 12 2008, 02:50 AM)
icic..mine chokes violently especially when starting engine early in the morning...after 10 minutes, then is okay dee...mine is manual choke...can the cause be the clogged carb?
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nope.... because ur autochoke KO adi....

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Apr 12 2008, 06:02 AM)
not iron bro
high carbon steel
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i know some of you are going to say steel got ferum inside oso so iron oso bah
but steel is recognized as a different material...iron is iron,...steel is steel laugh.gif hehe
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ya ke??... hmm.gif hmm.gif

dunno laugh.gif din learn before laugh.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 12 2008, 09:13 AM)
no need incase la. Transplant engine is a thing hardly happen to me. Hahaha....
Weber better..

Weber = Troublesome, performance higher, fc might be higher due not good tuning
highcam = plug and play, performance might not great as weber, fc won't affect much.
I rather to choose highcam because weber not my choice.. If EFI, then is my cup of tea... Hehe...

By the way, remember you told me if change block the engine will not stable? after i surveying many shop to ask about change block, I know what you mean liao. After change block, the engine need to do balancing again. Or else, the engine will shake or vibrate.. I think that mean not stable.. Don't put weber la.. Keep money, end of this year follow me go change block and stroke to 1.6. Confirm happy...  smile.gif
Hey kevin, you got watch fifth gear? I watched fifth gear but it not interesting as top gear.. Top gear still better.. About the top gear, I watch the episode call Top Ground Gear Force.. Si beh funny...  tongue.gif
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i got say before change engine will not be stable meh??... hmm.gif

u end of the year change block and stroker 1.6 ah??... fuhyoo... notworthy.gif
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post Apr 12 2008, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Apr 12 2008, 10:55 AM)
singchaii@
u mean change block and stroke to 1.6 ? kasi bolt besar or wad?
any1 heard that powerzone,N1 Racing...etc some cars they pass to some1 to mod?
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means change to 1.5 block... den rebore the lubang kasi besar besar sumbat 1.6 stroker kit which will increase ur engine displacement to approx 1.6L... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 12 2008, 12:33 PM)
Not you la.. Is gilbert said de. Hehe..

End of this year change.. Save money since chinese new year. it cost around Rm3.2k to done. The mech told me, can stroke to 1.8 also. But the engine life time will be shorten. Hehe,,
Apa kasi bolt besar?  blink.gif  What I do is, rebore to 1500cc then, stroke to 1600cc...

If you sent your car to Powerzone, if you don't have RM9-10k, then you can just forget it. N1 racing I dun think their hiraukan 4g13 carburetortongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2008, 04:48 AM

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spotted in melaka...

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post Apr 13 2008, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ Apr 13 2008, 07:44 AM)
worksmanship...  doh.gif
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what workmanship u mean?? hmm.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 13 2008, 09:41 AM)
what under the hood? Haha.. By the way, so free suka suka go snap picture ar? Hehe.
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duno... haha... inside got boost meter geh...

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Apr 13 2008, 10:03 AM)
snapped beside hospital putra? opposite city bayview hotel? haha
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yea... friday was working at majestic hotel.... got event there.... Agong came for makan...

QUOTE(cheeann @ Apr 13 2008, 10:17 AM)
tat's ur car  ? ?  smile.gif
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i'm not that lucky lar...

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Apr 13 2008, 10:18 AM)
anyone goin the STAR Drift Challenge in malacca A FAmosa?
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when is it??...

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Apr 13 2008, 12:27 PM)
yesterday n today..
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until wad time??..

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Apr 13 2008, 01:07 PM)
tmr in malacca? can find sifoo cat yc! haha
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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Apr 13 2008, 02:14 PM)
mak aiii..how come the intercooler never fix properly.. laugh.gif
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how i know jek??... not my car also... sweat.gif
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post Apr 13 2008, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Apr 13 2008, 04:32 PM)
how come so bad wan FC..ur car 1.3 worr..shud be more save petrol than mine..if full tank 350km nia, if install weber maa even worst.. rclxub.gif
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mayb install weber adi better fc... icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Apr 13 2008, 06:05 PM)
doh.gif hahaha
thats an intercooler izit...
i was wondering wth was so senget under there tongue.gif
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yea... that one intercooler... some say it looks like mirage standard intercooler... not sure though.... what i alwiz see on road, they use vr4 intercooler....

QUOTE(singchaii @ Apr 13 2008, 07:10 PM)
By the way, Now day I see many viva and saga blm on the road and both of this car is the low line model... What I noticed is, the front bumper, rear bumper is in black colour and it different from the chasis colour.. Why ha? Gonna give people see is low line model? Today I saw a saga blm more funny. The car is in white, steel rim and the front and rear bumper is in black. Seriously, I will never accept the car if the colour different. Why those proton and perodua gonna make this stupid idea?
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yeap... low line... spray bumper expensive mar... low line is cost saving till maximum... thats why front n rear bumper also didnt spray... laugh.gif

QUOTE(yewwing @ Apr 13 2008, 07:15 PM)
sifoo sifoo sekalian, i got one question.
I m using HID 8000k and  i decided changing to 4000k, can i just change the bulb or i need to buy another whole set?
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jz change the bulb if not mistaken... unsure.gif

QUOTE(yewwing @ Apr 13 2008, 07:41 PM)
that is the reason i m changing to 4000k, hopefully can go through road block  cry.gif
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kesian... use ur HID as cabin lights lor... no rules permit the usage of hid in the car... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 13 2008, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Apr 13 2008, 08:21 PM)
hurmm...
RM67 - 310-320KM
sometimes RM74 - 310-320KM also.
the best is RM72 - 350KM
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kesian... teruk betul fc u.... sweat.gif

heavy footed ke??...

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Apr 13 2008, 08:22 PM)

Added on April 13, 2008, 8:25 pm
wah..that is very very bad...should start to look for the culprit..
maybe got hamster in the petrol tank drink all the fuel.. rclxub.gif
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