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 World Cyber Games 2008: Official Games, Beyond The Game ?

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pitt910
post Mar 26 2008, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(guardioo @ Mar 26 2008, 05:34 AM)
organize a event not that easy though, you never look deep into it.
I briefly tell you some of it.

Wide Coverage obviously required Internet Connection
-This is where internet come in, required tmnet as sponsor, but on another side note, you need to pay rental fees also to management as using thier facilities, yea, ISP can give any free bandwidth boost just for few days event or even FOC for few days event, but who pay the facilities charges? (Sponsor Obviously)

Marshall
-where to choose a qualify marshall, who know the game well, and not prejudice yet fair, and dont forget, you need to pay marshall salary, if too low who wanna work? time management for marshall having shift for having breakfast, lunch and dinner?(obviously you all wanna having food with ur fren.) who would pay the salary which is rm100 to rm120 per day, where thier working hour might be 12 hours long?? and there is head marshall where higher pay. who gonna pay?( none, except they really generous since all organiser would like to save as much money as they could, they would more happy able to get volunteer,normally they would pay rm60-80 for marshall if they somehow agree with that salary.)

Sponsor all Grand final winners to Msia, dont think much, u just need to get samsung to pay for it, and organiser just need to get thier namelist, passport number, or even try spoke with embassy for country that required VISA to come here, and yet, booking for hotel room.
(in2 certainly cant make it, erm...manpower not enough probaly)

Commentator - sorry, there doesnt have good commentator with good english here, including me. best you able to get is (wah lau!fake)
Or get hit.fm crew which i sometimes feel like they disgrace our knowledge.

Goverment - might be morale support but not financial, what for i support your event when none of the msian able to get any champion or title at all, face the fact, goverment always like to see result in short time which same as us seeing goverment done all thing in efficient way.

Console gaming - you can find m$ to done thier xbox360 launching during opening or watever...big big prize...hot chiqs...great cash...and all won by foreigners...i meant for international events.

Banners and advertisment - you need to becareful on this part though, some sponsor, if they doesnt see thier banner clear enough, not at the good position...they would scream!!! at u! advertisment doesnt have thier company logo/name...they would complain u!! this will make you depress as they might threaten, we will not sponsor anymore..or maybe next year...hahaha..obviously all sponsor want to expose thier company logo/name as smart or most attractive as thier could, if not what for they sponsor the event.  this leave to organiser to decide.

Equiment rental - do you think renting the hall is cheap? mostly cost rm20k per day, LCD TV rental, cordless microphone rental (RM150/unit per day)
oh yea, time management too, you need to rush the time, which sometimes authority would charge rm1k-3k per hour, if u doesnt clear the event hall fast enough.

and yea..this just briefly...most important part is, organiser only receive thier money after 2 month - 1 year..the rest is they fork out thier own money except deposit which taken of course.

shit, i must be too crazy woke up 5am..

but telling you all, doing event is not easy, what i saying is just briefly, there is so many problem/troubles occur b4/during/after event.

Yeap, msia event organiser certainly better than singapore, but why AWCG doesnt host here?? i dunno..

obviously organising a small tiny event is easy, time wise doesnt need to bother much, a Grand event would make ur hair totally turn white though.
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Halo,.....u got alot point,...but at the end is all abt 'sponsorship'!!
it had no related to goverment, if the sponsor can effort the event require o more, then there b no any question to organize this grand event here in malaysia. for example concert, if sponsorship can meet the require we can even see any star from all around the world come over. all ur point abt pubilcity n promotion all will b consider together no point u list out. while 'x-game' is the best example, n oso 8tv grand concert every year invited HK stars. so perhape any 'big sponsor' in malaysia willing to sponsor this event, n wat we need to do is jus pray n hope biggrin.gif
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post Mar 26 2008, 11:09 AM

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i done the 8tv event b4 though, they invited HK stars bcoz they got name, hotlink and others sponsor willing f.o.c for the food and accomodation.
it does related to goverment too, dont tell me u doesnt need any permit for a big event.


Added on March 26, 2008, 11:13 amanyway, im talking about making a event successful, not about gaming first, before u talk into gaming, try to prepare all sort of stuff to make the event successful.

And futhermore, sound and lighting, got one year 8tv done a event..hmm..maybe i wrong..i forgot which year..at jln bukit bintang, do u really think road closure doesnt need any permit?

and sorry, i dont talk about sponsorship only, i talk overall, u wanna get a good gaming event with accomodate so many game, dun tell me u doesnt need sponsor, i would rather say, if the competition doesnt have good prizes, dun tell u would join..ya right..u may join... but not for long...


Added on March 26, 2008, 11:18 am
QUOTE(pitt910 @ Mar 26 2008, 10:36 AM)
Halo,.....u got alot point,...but at the end is all abt 'sponsorship'!!
it had no related to goverment, if the sponsor can effort the event require o more, then there b no any question to organize this grand event here in malaysia. for example concert, if sponsorship can meet the require we can even see any star from all around the world come over. all ur point abt pubilcity n promotion all will b consider together no point u list out. while 'x-game' is the best example, n oso 8tv grand concert every year invited HK stars. so perhape any 'big sponsor' in malaysia willing to sponsor this event, n wat we need to do is jus pray n hope biggrin.gif
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yeap, since u say so many thing, its all about sponsor, which sponsor willing to sponsor if their brand didnt advertise nicely, take example as X-Games, why isnt 2nd year, or even 2nd time??

and 8tv grand concert, ya right, hk star get thier money if they come, obviously they come, and 8tv able to collect money from concert ticket, with cover part of thier sponsor, they also advertise thier brand, and futhurmore maxis/digi is so generous due to high publicity of HK/Taiwan Stars, so...where is the Gaming Publicity... HWZ magazine??the star????tats all???

This post has been edited by guardioo: Mar 26 2008, 11:18 AM
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post Mar 27 2008, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(guardioo @ Mar 26 2008, 11:09 AM)
i done the 8tv event b4 though, they invited HK stars bcoz they got name, hotlink and others sponsor willing f.o.c for the food and accomodation.
it does related to goverment too, dont tell me u doesnt need any permit for a big event.


Added on March 26, 2008, 11:13 amanyway, im talking about making a event successful, not about gaming first, before u talk into gaming, try to prepare all sort of stuff to make the event successful.

And futhermore, sound and lighting, got one year 8tv done a event..hmm..maybe i wrong..i forgot which year..at jln bukit bintang, do u really think road closure doesnt need any permit?

and sorry, i dont talk about sponsorship only, i talk overall, u wanna get a good gaming event with accomodate so many game, dun tell me u doesnt need sponsor, i would rather say, if the competition doesnt have good prizes, dun tell u would join..ya right..u may join... but not for long...


Added on March 26, 2008, 11:18 am
yeap, since u say so many thing, its all about sponsor, which sponsor willing to sponsor if their brand didnt advertise nicely, take example as X-Games, why isnt 2nd year, or even 2nd time??

and 8tv grand concert, ya right, hk star get thier money if they come, obviously they come, and 8tv able to collect money from concert ticket, with cover part of thier sponsor, they also advertise thier brand, and futhurmore maxis/digi is so generous due to high publicity of HK/Taiwan Stars, so...where is the Gaming Publicity... HWZ magazine??the star????tats all???
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The ultimate success of an event will need a solid financial support apart from coordination of well-proven
effective management team. "Money" is always view as a fluidic drive for such success.

In an organization of a non-governmental events, the sponsor/s are usually the sole financial source.
The question is how many sponsor/s is/are needed and how much they would sponsor is a key question.

Obviously, every event have its own VALUE which the sponsor would pay for.
Factors to enhance the VALUE :-

Amount of visitors that the event will attract (thinking of thousand as a unit per day)
The spectators and game-enthusiasts rather than the gamers are pertinent in the success in an gaming events.
The event hence is for :-
1. "An event of competition for few hundreds Gamers" ??
OR
2. "An event of viewing pleasure for few thousand and thousands Spectators" ??

Selection of question 1 or 2 as Primary PRIORITY will steer how grand the event would be held.
Just ask a sponsor what unit interest them most ? Hundreds or Thousand or more?

Suggestions:-
1. Although it's difficult to have a live telecast at this moment, a VOD is much efficient than a replay.
2. The LCD TV displayed during the preliminary at previous WCG were placed too low.
Increasing the number of LCD TV at strategic place with "slightly higher" position might be benefit more spectators
rather than few viewers that stand directly in front of the TV screen.

"THEME" & "NATURE"
eg. What's being offered INSIDE in the event
eg. The event is also AN OPPORTUNITY for extension the spirit of "BEYOND the GAMES" theme.

Questions :-
1. Is the "GAME" theme per-se being delivered ?
2. Is the "BEYOND the GAME" theme being achieved ?

It is the AFTER EFFECT of the VISITORS (whether spectators or gamers)
before they step-in and after the they step-out from the event venue.

What are their response/reaction in relation to :-
1. The game event
2. The support of the event being offered?
3. The influence of them to other visitors (would they encourage their friends/ family/ relative to visit or
would they allow their children to attend in future)
4. Have the commercial message of the sponsors being delivered?

Sorry to be blunt, however, I personally find that there is lack of Synergistic Effect among the flow
of game and the theme event. It feels more like a IT product exhibition centre.
At times, the master of ceremony gave the public that the MC also might not be so familiar with the
game being played.
In this aspect, the opportunity to introduce/dissiminate the "gist of the event" eg. the game being
displayed to the public/ spectators is impaired.


"BRANDing" and "ACCEPTANCE"of the event
What are impression/ opinion of the viewers or society as the whole, think of the event.
As example, what our society think of WCG if compared to other events such as Piala Perdana, F1 or de Tour etc)

"Stage" of the event (Local, state, regional, national or international)
Higher stage --> Higher VALUE --> More Money

Publicities (Internet, Main stream media or Local)
Events being reported in local or national newspaper or national TV? Gaming magazine? Gaming website? Blog?
Although the target audience will be the gamers however,
publicities at the main stream media would create further "buzz" in our society, thus "stimulate" more game-enthusiasts

Reputation of a organizer
Just like a good reputable housing developer would always deliver. (This is what a sponsors want!)
The sponsors would also want their money(investment) to be well-spend in achieving their business commitment.


In short,
Increase the VALUE of the event,
Don't deviade from the theme too far away,
Think OUT-OF-the BOX when difficulities arised.
Everything would come nicely ....... eventually

This post has been edited by CityLife: Mar 27 2008, 02:48 PM
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Tentative Game List for Malaysia Championship 2008

Half-Life(tm): Counter Strike
Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Warth(tm)
FIFA Soccer 08(tm)
Need for Speed(tm): Pro Street
StarCraft(R): Brood War(tm)
WarCraft(R) III : The Frozen Throne(tm)

i guess the love for x360 games gonna need to wait sad.gif

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WCG 2008 - Marshal & Crew Recruitment

If you think you have what it takes to be part of WCG 2008, email your application to

1. derick_tan@in2.com.my

2. august@in2.com.my

3. lisa_chong@in2.com.my

Please state

1. Postion [Marshal or Crew] - please state this clearly on the SUBJECT of the email

2. Experience [this will help us determine your suitability]

3. Attached a pix of yourself


sauce: http://my.worldcybergames.com/
kujaboyde
post Apr 2 2008, 12:20 PM

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ah i miss august xD
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No Master Chief this year toooooo.................. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post Apr 2 2008, 06:23 PM

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Hmm.. maybe if certain console gamers can stop supporting Sungei Wang/LYP console games, we'd have a chance to have XBOX 360 in WCG.my.
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QUOTE(angelstarz @ Apr 2 2008, 06:23 PM)
Hmm.. maybe if certain console gamers can stop supporting Sungei Wang/LYP console games, we'd have a chance to have XBOX 360 in WCG.my.
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The "machine" like many ppl said were not even officially launched though widely available.

Perhaps with the official launch of XBox 360 the situation would change?

Why is it that Age of Empires 3 (A Game for windows, Microsoft) was not included in the previous competition in WCG.MY

By the way, this year final official games is out,
Although for Age of Empires 3 the expansion used is Asian dysnasty,
the logo in the website http://www.worldcybergames.com/6th/fun/new...no=C08031710001
still use the Warchief logo.

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post Apr 3 2008, 12:53 AM

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its not launched here because of the piracy level. thats what angelstarz was implying.

well about the organizing part, as long as theres not speakers playing loud music near the gaming area, i'll be happy. also, dont leave the spectators out of the action, they wanna watch their friends or favourite team/player competing.
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post Apr 4 2008, 05:15 PM

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will age of empires be in for malaysia this year?
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QUOTE(kujaboyde @ Apr 2 2008, 12:20 PM)
ah i miss august xD
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nvm la.angelstarz pun bagus ape, abng forza...!


p/s : hie, abang badan bagus 'chap'...lama x jumpa..apa khabar? tongue.gif tongue.gif

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