Of course not. That's the premium series, RM800 per litre. I'm not a charity!
Obviously since it's more expensive, it'll cure more ailments like cancer and AIDS.
Special introductory offer RM750 per litre. PM for bulk orders - special discount!

Just out of curiosity, do you think religion is bullshit?

Would you pay RM500 for my Special Bottles of Boiled Water, which is really just boiled tap water, nothing more? Would you accuse me of extreme profiteering, or even cheating gullible people who think my boiled tap water can cure cancer or a bad back?

These pendants are the same. They're pieces of plastic or whatever, that have the same powers as a sweet wrapper. The difference is in the price (read the link posted on page 8), and the hope that the piece of plastic will heal their ailments.

Meanwhile, the manufacturers make an absolutely massive profit based on lies and the gullibility of the public. That's where the "problem" lies. If those pendants cost RM1, i don't think people would make such a big deal.

If you don't mind paying RM250 for an item that cost maybe 5 sen to make, which has as much power as my Special Bottles of Boiled Water, well... why don't you buy my water instead? At least I get the profit instead of some unknown manufacturer.

Yes... just hope the people around you aren't aware of its supposed effects. Otherwise you'd be announcing to the world that you may have spent RM250 on a 5sen item.


Yes, there's no difference to you. But there's a huge difference to me! My claims are just as good as the other manufacturers. I can easily whip up a brochure with photos of random people with random names and testimonies. Heck, Noni juice did it, they just have more flavour in their drink.

Can you name me a reputable company that has a 5,000 - 25,000% profit margin?


Wow, what a sweeping statement. There really should be qualifiers there.
Why don't you stop brushing your teeth forever? After all, those toothpaste ads talking about "plaque" and "tartar" are all lies.

I just did a google. Aww, Malek Noor sold out.

Here's a dead simple test to prove that this Quantum Pendant is complete BS.

On www.fusionexcel.com, there are links to videos showing the power of the Quantum Pendant.

TRY AND RECREATE THOSE VIDEOS with neutral parties in a proper manner. You WILL FAIL miserably, proving once and for all that fusionexcel is selling pendants based on lies and deceit.


Video #1 - Four people lifting malek noor with two fingers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Ewix6JT28
- The first glaring error is that they're NOT using two fingers! From the angle of their "two fingers", they're actually using their whole hand. And four people lifting one person isn't amazing. If the pendant made ONE person able to lift him up that high, that would be something.


Video 2 - A test of balance - a guy balances on one leg with arms outstretched, the fakir pushes one arm down. Tips to the side without the pendant, stays upright with the pendant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eyV6g1406Y
- Simple physics used in both demonstrations. Without the pendant, the fakir pushes the guy's arm down rapidly, easily throwing him off balance. With the pendant, the fakir applies a slow steady pressure, allowing the guy to counterbalance it. Try it yourself.


Video 3 - Test of flexibility. The same guy turns his body, he can reach farther with the pendant on him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYxT2MFVZLM
- This demonstration has one huge flaw in it - the point of reference is NOT FIXED! It's sellout Malek Noor again, marking the position with his hand, which you cannot see for half of the segment. You can stretch farther after one stretch anyway, simply because your muscles have already been stretched once.


Video 4 - Test of strength. Malek Noor pushes down on the same guy's hand. The guy loses his balance without the pendant, stays upright with. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbyJleN3yCU
- This is amazingly insulting. They're trying to prove that their product works, by getting their spokesman to apply a force to another person. Just apply less force the second time round. Zzzzzz.


Sorry, but it's a big FAIL. I can think of so many tests that will completely utterly shoot their lies down to pieces, based on the four videos above. It's so, so, so, so easy. Don't take false claims like that lying down, people!


p.s. the "western world" does include Australia. I mean, they obviously aren't part of Asia are they? *grin*

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Added on April 18, 2008, 9:52 pmActually, to them, it really is cheap! RM300 is about US$90 or GBP48. That is cheap (to them) for a high-quality imitation.

(of course, when the watch dies 6 months later, it won't be such a bargain anymore!)

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Added on April 18, 2008, 9:57 pmIt's no wonder why there are so many of these 'magical cures' out there. There's such easy money to be made!


lol, I hope you just realized what you said.


This post has been edited by wired@genes: Apr 18 2008, 09:57 PM

Precisely! My magical water works exactly the same way as all those other 'magical cures' out there.

Well, those people who say it works can't - or more often - don't want to prove that it's the placebo effect! Why don't you try the tests I mentioned a few posts ago?

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Added on April 19, 2008, 7:57 amA good example has gotta be Emperor Qin Shi Huang, the terracotta army guy. He was told by his alchemists that mercury pills would make him immortal. So he ate a whole heap which eventually killed him, but not before driving him mental.

History is riddled with quacks, it's no surprise that they're still around!


This post has been edited by wired@genes: Apr 19 2008, 07:57 AM

The test will prove beyond reasonable doubt that FusionExcel's claims are lies and deceit.

They say the pendant will allow you to lift very heavy objects that you wouldn't normally be able to, as a direct result of wearing the pendant. That is a large, bold claim made directly on the front page of their website.... among others.


That's all fine and dandy. You can believe whatever you want to believe. We'd just like to inform others that the pendant did not have any magical mystical energy that healed you. You healed yourself. It was the placebo effect. The mind is a powerful thing.

Once again, if you believe that it was the pendant that magically healed you with nonexistent energy, that's fine. I just hope the rest of the public are more well-informed as a result of this thread.


People who are um... 'easily swayed' ... could read your testimony and truly believe the pendant has magical scalar energy powers, when what they're really doing is making someone else very rich. The pendant costs way more than any pharmaceutical drug. The placebo effect can only do so much - if they decide to not go see a doctor to treat their heart condition because they believe this pendant will cure their ailments, and die as a result of it, well... it'll hurt them, not you.


Cool, you are free to believe what you want. I bet the people who created the pendant see it exactly the same way, and took advantage of it.

Nobody is forcing anyone not to buy the pendant.


Do you also think the government shouldn't waste their time and money in educating the public about having a healthy diet? Let the public eat what they want, as much as they want, because it should be their own free will. Obesity and heart disease is a scam, the public don't have to know about it. Why bother informing the public about the effects? It won't hurt anyone.


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This post has been edited by wired@genes: Apr 19 2008, 12:11 PM

Thanks for the salute. So you still think you were healed by the pendant's "scalar energy" and not by the placebo effect?

Wow. You really think I'm selling Special Bottles of Boiled Water? Either you didn't actually read my posts, or implicit sarcasm flies right past you. Isn't the name corny enough? Hehe.


Actually, when it comes to the placebo effect, you'd probably know the least. That's just how it works!

As mP said, we're not saying it DIDN'T heal your injuries. The thing that's being questioned is HOW it healed your injuries, as I said in my last post, which you conveniently ignored.

You're completely missing all my points. You really should read them more carefully and actually respond to them, instead of repeating yourself.


Yes, that's all fine. As long as others realize that it's the placebo effect that's making the difference, not mystical scalar energy.


Here we go, the first testimony that FusionExcel's claims are lies and deceit!


Why don't you buy my Special Bottles of Boiled Water instead? *grin*

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Added on April 19, 2008, 5:09 pmWow, even some of the "tests" they do are similar!


This post has been edited by wired@genes: Apr 19 2008, 05:09 PM

[quote=4Rings,Apr 20 2008, 06:57 AM]
BTW i used the quantum pendant for only a month. Out of curiosity, I switched to another type to test which one works better.
I have 2 fish tanks keeping the same type of fishes, swordtails, guppies and corydoras. Mortality rate was quite high for both tanks.
Ever since I placed the quantum in the Tank A, mortality rate reduced significantly. In Tank B, it remains the same. Just lost 4 swordtails and 1 Cory this month. No death in Tank A so far this month.

Fishes from Tank A told me it was placebo effect. The Tank B said it was power of the mind. I had to believe what they said because they were the one who are experiencing it first hand. Even tho I don't agree with my fishes but I can't make assumption based on my opinion. Simply because I don't live with them in the fish tank.
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If you really want to prove that it was the pendant, remove the pendant from the tank. Do the fish start dying again?
Did you actually go out and buy a pendant JUST to put in Tank A, leaving it there permanently since the first time you put it in?


[quote=4Rings,Apr 20 2008, 06:57 AM]
What's the problem with you if people want to spend their money on the pendants?
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Nothing. Go right ahead. Oh you already did.
Just bear in mind that it's not magical scalar energy that's doing things.

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Added on April 20, 2008, 5:03 am
Some smart arses did not even know the head and tail of the thread, just jumped in and start shooting.

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So, would you like to buy my Special Bottles of Boiled Water? You know, the ones that I really am selling.

Some people don't know how to respond to posts, so they quote blocks of text and not address any of the valid points in them.
Reminds me of little kids trying to win an argument by going "yeah? well you're fat!".



OK, better go ask them now before they stop talking back to you!

Man, you really need to learn to quote properly. Use the Preview button before you post.

Yup. Pity that one party is unable to respond to any of the points.

Oh... that's what your fishes told you? Oh well that's ok... as this thread has shown, there are many others who are willing to pay good money for products like that.

I'm still waiting for someone to actually test FE's claims and post the results here! Or report them to the ministry of health or dept of fair trading!

Yes... it's amazing how they're allowed to promote it that way. That's one of the differences between western countries and "eastern" countries.
Those sort of claims will be investigated by the government and the items pulled off the market if found to guilty of deception.

In extreme cases like that, sure - as long as it doesn't provide false hope to the family, as that would be more devastating. If the family was educated about what those alternative cures can and cannot do, that's ok. But if the family puts all their hope in some magical water, which will undoubtedly fail, that's just cruel.

I've read about cases where families decide to end medical treatment early, or not seek medical treatment at all, and only use these 'magical' cures. That usually results in the death of the patient. Mmm, pity.

It's hard to debate when the other party ignores all your points....
Anyway, I think I've already put my points out there, hopefully it'll make some people look into these pendants a bit more before putting lots of money into them.


I really am from the future. The CERN Large Hadron Collider was successfully used to create a wormhole which enabled time travel - surprisingly, backwards time-travel at that! Want the next 10 years' 4D results?

As I mentioned before, I'm from the future... the CERN LHC really can open up wormholes!

http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2209280/...possible-months

It had been fired up several times already, i snuck in during the test runs. The energy of a mosquito, indeed!

Awwh. jswong was quite close, i was going to ask him how he knew our time-travel secrets.

Oh well, the conclusion is, these magical pendants aren't as 'magical' as they seem to be. Do some research first, from both sides of the fence! Don't be taken in by pseudoscience.

Alternatively, if someone is looking to make large profits, this is the very industry to get into!

wow.. she bought you one and asked you to pay for it?

All i can say is .... haha (nelson from the simpsons)!