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post Mar 25 2008, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 25 2008, 03:12 PM)
wat the hell? i really tak paham
mpyw, u understand bor?
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aiya u graduated from university rite?how come tak paham? tongue.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:15 PM

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I tok Indian
He speak in Cantonese
Mega write in Jawi
You communicate in Japanese...

u said ler brows.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:15 PM

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You guys are going to think I'm nuts but I was playing Celine Dion (stop laughing) and had my PS3 in LPCM mode. I was playing it in TrueHD and was wonderign how it would sound if I switched to bitstream on the fly and got the core DD 5.1 instead of the previous TrueHD with LPCM. I was amazed that I couldn't tell any difference. I was so surprised I had my son do the switching while I closed my eyes and I still couldn't tell the difference.

Then I threw in AC/DC and put it in PCM and put the PS3 in LPCM mode and switched back and forth in the BD menu from DD 5.1 to PCM 5.1. This time there was a VERY slight difference that if I closed my eyes I'd get it wrong probably 5 ot of 10 times(it was that slight).

I even tried Ratatoullie and War and the same thing. During all the test Ior my son always confirmed what the PS3 bitometer was sending as well as the display on my receiver. Then I started thinking, my Pioneer Elite 92TXH (about two months old) has room correction and equalization(MCACC) as well as High Bit Rate Sampling turned on. I decided to turn off the EQ and then all of a sudden I could tell the difference. I did the same test starting with Celine, AC/DC then ratatoullie and WAR all over again and closed my eyes while my son switched from DD or PCM in the menu or while in LPCM and bitstream with TrueHD. Each time I picked the TrueHD or PCM track as the better sounding one.

It appears that on my Pioneer with the EQ on DD 5.1 sounds as good as TrueHD and PCM. I know you'll say I'm crazy but if you leave the EQ on you can't tell but with it off there's a difference. I spend about 1/2 hour doing this and the EQ makes DD 5.1 sound incredible.

Here's a list of my audio gear I was using:

Components
Pioneer Elite 92TXH
Rotel RMB 1095(200x5) amp
Rotel RB-1050 (70x2) amp
Outlaw ICBM bass manager
Behringer Feedback Destroyer (Sub EQ)
Sony PS3

speakers
Monitor Audio Silver S10(fronts)
Monitor Audio SLCR (center)
Axiom Audio QS8 quadrapole surrounds ( side surrounds)
JBL HLS410 (back speakers)
Hsu VTF-3 HO w/Turbo (subwoofer)


Added on March 25, 2008, 3:15 pm
QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 25 2008, 03:15 PM)
I tok Indian
He speak in Cantonese
Mega write in Jawi
You communicate in Japanese...

u said ler brows.gif
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stop the crap la

all come OUG ...i treat FREE KALI MEE


This post has been edited by megatron007: Mar 25 2008, 03:15 PM
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wah...got free lunch...sure come...notworthy.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:19 PM

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edvpc, sorry, i only until form 5 nia sad.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 25 2008, 03:15 PM)
I tok Indian
He speak in Cantonese
Mega write in Jawi
You communicate in Japanese...

u said ler brows.gif
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i'm Javanese la bro... laugh.gif

QUOTE(megatron007 @ Mar 25 2008, 03:15 PM)
stop the crap la

all come OUG ...i treat FREE KALI MEE

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wahaha and now WTF is KALI MEE is? laugh.gif laugh.gif
izit mean can eat MEE again and again and again? laugh.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:20 PM

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i better sikit....untill form 6....but kenot enter U....too much of honeymoon year liao tongue.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Mar 25 2008, 11:35 AM)
not yet la

time being enjoy DTS core 1.5Mbps first lo
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Potong steam leh ....... most Fox titles use DTS-MA mah ...... takkan wait till next year for PS3's firmware update with DTS-MA decoding. Most of the big updates take a year one.

QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 25 2008, 12:10 PM)
arrrr...why don't they just use Dolby TrueHD or LPCM for everything and ask dts to PYT!!!
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This one you gotta ask the BD Camp. They got macam-macam punya audio codecs.

QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 25 2008, 12:59 PM)
use LPCM no need to pay license fees mar....wouldn't be more worth it except it takes up more storage place nia....
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Takes up more storage space not a good thing, the picture quality and special features will take a hit. doh.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 25 2008, 03:20 PM)
i better sikit....untill form 6....but kenot enter U....too much of honeymoon year liao tongue.gif
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wah u guys better than me la coz i never go to school... laugh.gif

QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 25 2008, 03:20 PM)
Potong steam leh ....... most Fox titles use DTS-MA mah ...... takkan wait till next year for PS3's firmware update with DTS-MA decoding. Most of the big updates take a year one.
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luckily i'm not buying so much Fox titles.PCM rules... tongue.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 25 2008, 03:20 PM)
i better sikit....untill form 6....but kenot enter U....too much of honeymoon year liao tongue.gif
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dinner la ... lunch at i m at jungle


me worst la

primary education .. cry.gif


so now i work in jungle


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post Mar 25 2008, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Mar 25 2008, 03:24 PM)
dinner la ... lunch at i m at jungle
me worst la

primary education .. cry.gif
so now i work in jungle
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I bring my wife & 2 mah lao can ar? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Mar 25 2008, 03:24 PM)
dinner la ... lunch at i m at jungle
me worst la

primary education .. cry.gif
so now i work in jungle
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nice la work at jungle... thumbup.gif can drive ur BMW at jungle what?like world rally... brows.gif

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post Mar 25 2008, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(edvpc @ Mar 25 2008, 03:28 PM)
nice la work at jungle... thumbup.gif can drive ur BMW at jungle what?like world rally... brows.gif
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soli... i m a kuli for my boss in jungle

i use my boss X5 here

sumtime i use his wife x3
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QUOTE(edvpc @ Mar 25 2008, 03:23 PM)
wah u guys better than me la coz i never go to school... laugh.gif
well, its noticeable
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:30 PM

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now im doing phd, i also kenot understand what happened here laugh.gif laugh.gif shakehead.gif rclxub.gif whistling.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 25 2008, 03:28 PM)
I bring my wife & 2 mah lao can ar? tongue.gif
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seriously

u should try the kali mee or porkie noodle there

si beh nice


mah lao no scare spici ar?? rclxub.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:32 PM

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my mad lao girl like spicy food very much...the boy kenot...
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 25 2008, 03:32 PM)
my mad lao girl like spicy food very much...the boy kenot...
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fuyoooo icon_rolleyes.gif

then come n eat la

haha rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif


Added on March 25, 2008, 3:33 pmIf you can't tell the difference between a 128kb MP3 and a CD, then you won't be able to tell the difference between DD and PCM, there is about the same quality difference(in some cases more with 24bit/96/192khz PCM tracks)

Differences depend on your ears(typically people that are older or have damaged their hearing can't hear very well above 13-15khz, where you do get alot more fidelity with lossless), your system and setup, whether you have trained yourself to hear the differences and finally the quality of the original source material (ie garbage in equals garbage out)

I have encountered some ppl that prefer the sound of compression, whether it is because subtle EQing that occurs with compression(or not so subtle in the case of WMA to my ears) or the cutting down of sometimes annoying highpitch sounds or perhaps they just like the sound of compression artifacts(I have no idea why, just speculation).

The PCM/lossless will ALWAYS be closer to the way the composer/sound effects technician/director/musician/mixer intended it to be heard.

But you should always just listen to what sounds the best to you.


This post has been edited by megatron007: Mar 25 2008, 03:33 PM
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:33 PM

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Wah, I thought only in football thread got gaduh. In bd thread also got ahh? tongue.gif

Thats why its bad that HDDVD no more edy, BD ppl now gado with each other now tongue.gif
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post Mar 25 2008, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(corez @ Mar 25 2008, 03:33 PM)
Wah, I thought only in football thread got gaduh. In bd thread also got ahh? tongue.gif

Thats why its bad that HDDVD no more edy, BD ppl now gado with each other now tongue.gif
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still got HD DVD la whistling.gif

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