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 Proton Saga BLM Club V2, One of the hottest car right now

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post Apr 30 2008, 10:08 PM

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LOL, I'm driving Auto and my lowest FC is 0.138 but only once. After that normally I got is 0.14-0.16.
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post May 2 2008, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(blueeyes @ May 2 2008, 01:25 AM)
ok....
1. IAFM got knocking sound
2. Radiator spare tank bracket touching A/T body (For A/T only)


Added on May 2, 2008, 12:28 am
haha.......this drive shaft is not stainless steel.  send ur car to ur nearest service center and show to service advisor ur car drive shaft.
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How come other car do not have such problem? Even my house waja and wira from Proton do not have such rusted part problem for this drive shaft. Rusted for long time, it may get break into and if driving that time, it is damn dangerous. If it is not stainless steel for BLM saga, can we request it to change to a stainless steel one like other proton cars? Please let me know ASAP because I'm going to SC this Sat. Thanks!!!
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post May 2 2008, 06:36 PM

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I'm goint to SC tomorrow, known a worker over SC there (House got another 2 proton car all deal through him at SC), last time my absobar problem get fixed within 2 hours time so let see what he can do for me this time.
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post May 3 2008, 11:00 AM

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Just took my car back from SC, rusted part cannot be change, guess either we need to send the car out to change ourself to 3rd party parts or just leave it be.

Brought my own "black oil", RM15 for 2nd service.
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post May 3 2008, 07:06 PM

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It doesn't really matter, they won't care. If anything happen to your car, they have the rights to void your warranty and ask you to pay for the service charge and parts. But they put the sticker there, ask me go back service at 6400++, i went at 5400++.
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post May 5 2008, 03:28 PM

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LOL, after 2nd service, my car is better on FC. Pump RM50 before service, go for 200km then go for 2nd service. Get back the car and run until now 330km and I still left 2 bars. The 2 bars will last me for at least another 50km before need to do a pump. The FC? Do the calculation yourself. I'm satisfy with this if really can get 380km.
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post May 5 2008, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(babylck @ May 5 2008, 07:00 PM)
wah so good  rclxms.gif  mine total mileage now still below 500KM.. first tank RM53 run for 270KM only  blush.gif .. after calculate is around 0.196cent/km.. is yours like this before the first service?
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I'm over 5000km already, no choice, everyday travel 100km just to go and back from work. My first tank was RM0.18/km. Then I run in the car myself, manage to get lowest RM0.138/km but after that remain around 0.14-0.16.

QUOTE(ghost321 @ May 5 2008, 07:12 PM)
mine telling me you are using manual or auto. other than than what is your ratio of driving location e.g. 80% city drive 20% highway drive

i like to know about the FC for 100% city drive. ty
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Mine was auto.

30% highway, 20% city and 50% old road (If you know those road from Seremban to Nilai, quite bumpy sometimes, need to break or slow down, hard to maintain constant speed). So far I do not have 100% city FC but the old road can consider old road though (Of course not city like KL that always jam).



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post May 6 2008, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(Canopies @ May 5 2008, 10:16 PM)
which such fc its very good ady , mind telling urs is M line or B lime?
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It is a M line. Not manage to get 380km because I was rushing just now, so pick up from house to bank, stop the car/off engine, go down do some transferring then get back, rush to theater for movie, 2 bars drop quite a lot, I think maybe around 350-360km I can get with RM50, which is quite usual figure.
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post May 6 2008, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(rhoma @ May 6 2008, 02:22 PM)
i found a pulling string below the rear seat
anyone know what's the function?
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QUOTE(rhoma @ May 6 2008, 02:22 PM)
i found a pulling string below the rear seat
anyone know what's the function?
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For you to take out the rear seat.

For you to take out the rear seat.
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post May 7 2008, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(babylck @ May 7 2008, 12:35 PM)
guys.. for those went service their car.. can you list down the engine oil you used :-

Engine oil Brand:
Engine oil Viscosity:
Price For the oil:
Engine sound:

Thanks a lot..Really appreciate it..  notworthy.gif
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I have no idea....LOL

QUOTE(briggs86 @ May 7 2008, 04:12 PM)
my area chic those with P plate drive saga more than myvi...  and quite lot of aunty  drive myvi at my area....  doh.gif my gal dont like myvi... she say tat look like frog sweat.gif.....  tat why i choose saga lo  blush.gif    sorry if offence to myvi owner....    wink.gif
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Where is your area? Invite those chicks come out to have a saga gathering then, LOL.
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post May 7 2008, 10:06 PM

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Any idea is it possible for us to change the drive shaft by ourself by using 3rd party parts (if there is any)? How much it will normally cost?
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post May 8 2008, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(-storm- @ May 8 2008, 08:59 PM)
Actually nothing wrong la, psycho effect  because you know you did something wrong tongue.gif
I did that many times when i was driving a manual , tak da hal also.  rolleyes.gif
Wa silver blm really suay  doh.gif
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That's because silver color is the most amount on the road compare to other color. Wait for few more months, sure other color will get into accident too. tongue.gif
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post May 8 2008, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(-storm- @ May 8 2008, 10:09 PM)
Today i saw a lot of blm on the roads, lots of granite grey and greens, silver i see a few also, think everyone is getting their car now sweat.gif
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My place got very few saga on the road, most are drive by uncle auntie.
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post May 8 2008, 09:37 PM

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I saw a white color saga with body kit. Damn nice the outlook, I prefer the look than the one that so called special edition from proton.
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post May 8 2008, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(briggs86 @ May 8 2008, 10:41 PM)
tat 1 is not for sale la.. concept car.... tat is why nice.....


Added on May 8, 2008, 9:43 pmmy area if i not mistake i saw few chic with P plate with green color  haha .. location at klang....


Added on May 8, 2008, 9:54 pmany member already mod the saga blm?
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Nope, I dont think the concept car is nice, outlook damn ugly, interior still ok.

QUOTE(babylck @ May 8 2008, 10:58 PM)
what is your total mileage already? Mine 600KM+ mileage now the fc is around 20cent/km.. pump full tank RM57 can last for 285KM only.. 80% City and 20% Highway.. hopefully after the first service can improve  blush.gif
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I run in the car the next day, able to get 0.138 before 1st service.
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post May 9 2008, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(kewlbuzz @ May 9 2008, 12:16 AM)
my fc are now stabling at 0.13 - 0.14 /km. already reach 3500 mileage.
70% i keep it below 3000rpm.  thumbup.gif
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Yeah, maintain below 3k RPM did reduce the FC.

QUOTE(LambOfGod @ May 9 2008, 01:06 AM)
actually i think silver saga is kinda ......... i dun wanna say it =X
im using the open POD filter. go for open pod la.. smoother air intake.
yeah i did.. reverse gear memang like that 1..very hard to shift.. i notice it since i got the car.. "when i wanna shift the gear to reverse need to do it slowly.. if not will KROOOK" rite?
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Wait till someone post another color of saga get into accident, then I'll say the thing, LOL. (If it is your car's color you'll understand others feeling)
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post May 9 2008, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(LambOfGod @ May 9 2008, 01:14 AM)
hahah...yeah.. i know..but i just have to la.. hahah..kick me!! neway..hows ur saga la chingy? got give u any problems anot?
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Cursing people will forever get curse back themselve, so just wait for your turn ya, LOL!
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post May 10 2008, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ May 10 2008, 02:24 AM)
hey guys , managed to test drive both saga BLM and myvi .... frankly, saga is worse compared with myvi ...pick up bad , passenger seat kind of small and not enuf for 3 adults to sit and not to say , no ABS ... sad case man ...and the steering there is kind of high and hard to control on the steering ...dunno how to describe...maybe its normal for u guys , but if its compare wif Wira ... wira steering is better..at least wont that high ...
and the speedometer there , too small .... decision made and decided to take myvi .... saga is playing on price , Rm 39k wif no ABS , small seat and 5months waiting period...shit man
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pick up bad, because myvi light than saga, go for long run, sure saga pass by myvi easily.

passenger seat small? it is bigger than wira and i dont find myvi any spacious more than saga though.

most car can adjust the steering, you don't know, you are dumb enough.

speedometer, you want large screen then go for bigger car, myvi speedometer larger than saga how many cm?

myvi cheating people on price, 50k with abs, short car design with inbalance design in high speed.

oh yeah, myvi can get the car faster, but 10k more with ABS extra only? I don't know why everyone must get ABS, if you always drive fast and need ABS only can break your car, get the hell off the road, don't danger others life.

oh yeah, haven't mention that myvi comes with sucks QC like proton did, and gave user a lousy ICE system with no bass at all.
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post May 10 2008, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ May 10 2008, 03:39 AM)
yaya... cheating ppl on price ... how about the so-called campro engine ? not cheating u all ? laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Rm8k+ wif extra ABS , better interior design , engine and so on... ABS is for extra safety purpose ... it doesnt mean that u will drive fast k... dumb .... its a must for every car nowadays ... 5 months waiting period mean there are a lot of medium earning ppl can get the car ... coz its Rm35++k.... last time myvi waiting period is around 6-8months ... now they hav increase their manufacturing capacity d... no longer need to wait 6++months .... 1month can get d...

wat i mean for steering is , its too straight until ur hand wont feel confortable .... and the engine use by so-called blm is  doh.gif  doh.gif ... old technology wif noisy engine .... my gf's waja engine getting noisy and noisy ... regret getting it  whistling.gif  whistling.gif ...

u drive 60++km/h in highway kar ?  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif at least 100km/h for me in highway , if not ur in hospital , ppl bump on ur car ... ABS is mean for emergency brake ... myvi hav its since its launched ... and till now , proton hav no ABS for less than 45K car

myvi QC sucks , but not that suck as proton car...speaker only around 2k++ and lesser ...
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then how bout myvi the so called TOYOTA tuned car? not cheating you?

better interior design? I don't think so, go slightly scratch the both car plastic interior with your nail and see which one got better quality plastic interior. design looks good doesn't mean the material is good. this was based on myvi user complained and i tested myself.

yeah ABS for extra safety but i don't think it is a must for every car. go around the world and check the car accident rate, why malaysia always got the highest even compare with ABS (malaysia) to few years back that ABS still not implement to car yet (oversea)? it is driving attitude that make malaysian thought ABS is a must, people like you thought having ABS can save your life? without speeding and maintain the distance between car, ABS will never kick in until you change the car. I've been driving waja with ABS for more than 5 years, I never use the ABS, not even once, I don't think ABS is a must for car, it just an extra safety feature and it is optional. with good skill, attitude of driving, ABS is useless.

waiting period so what? myvi need to wait that time i didn't see you complain about myvi? now saga need to wait and you complain about it? most new car when launch that time sure need to wait for a while to get the car. myvi already been released to the market for quite some time, you comparing the waiting period time? are you the one who dumb to do the comparison?

i got wira, waja, saga and unser at home and i drove camry, kancil, sephia, civic, myvi before. I don't feel much difference between those car steering. if you get into dislike of something, for sure you can get some reason to dislike it.

what engine you think myvi used? you thought it is not noisy? try drive fast and compare the noise, i dont think it is quiet than saga. you want to talk about waja, then how about talk about kancil, kenari, kelisa and complain about the noisy engine and wind sound?

honestly, i drive constant 100-150km/h in highway. i never said i drive 60km/h, dont try to be smart ass. no matter how fast i'm driving, i'll keep at least 3 cars distance in front of me, if raining or wet condition, even further. who say drive slow in highway will get hit by other cars? you are the one who got those thinking that cause car accident all the time.

ABS, yeah for emergency brake, but with proper driving and distance, ABS will never kick in as i said earlier. I did have some experience on emergency brake but with the distance in front of me, I don't need ABS to help me the braking. YOU.....I guess you always tail gate until when brake it will automatically lock the tyre because you are too scared to drive slow in highway and thought highway must drive fast....

how good you think Perodua has? Check around and see are there lots of complain about myvi? less doesnt mean dont have, this same goes to proton, not everyone has complain. If both brand comes out in the market together, i dont think perodua can get that much support since the QC is the same.

We are not talking about modification, we are talking about stock car. If want to talk about modification, then no matter how bad the car is, I can just change everything to track car parts and hell yes I would say, just 40k+ or lesser only...
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post May 10 2008, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(cyberloner @ May 10 2008, 05:22 AM)
it is same as i manual brake my motorcycle SS last time... when play with disk brake... i brake and release and brake again and release a few times... it really shorten the distance... by hitting brake directly...
car is also same... no abs... if u hit the brake directly... the car will move.... quite a far distance...
with abs... it is auto hit and release the brake...



see how the brake work

you are also right about control the car when braking as well... maybe i was wrong..
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ABS, it wont shorten the distance, it is still the same. The only thing that ABS works is, when you do emergency brake, tyre will get lock and it will cause your car unable to control when you turn the steering, it will still go straight only. With ABS, it will prevent this to happen, you'll feel that your tyre is lock but it allow the tyre to move, you'll feel it because the tyre is hold by something and it is forcing it to move, so when this happen, you turn the steering and you still able to control the steering.

With ABS, when tyre lock, you turn the steering, your car can be control.
Without ABS, when tyre lock, you turn the steering, your can will go straight only.

My friend tested with his camry on a flat road and I was in the car, because I do not understand how ABS works sweat.gif



QC, Perodua and Proton do not have any difference. You can say Proton have a same issue for over 10 years, is Perodua release that long like Proton? As I said, Perodua does have a lot of QC problem like Proton, just because it release later than Proton, everyone thought that it got better QC.

Window problem, I'm not sure. But common problem in Proton, sound here sound there, it is happening on Perodua too. If you say it is just some cars having this issue, Proton also same, not everyone having the problem. Proton use spoilt parts on the car, yes Perodua did the same thing as well to cut cost, took back to SC for fix? They just use glue like what Proton did to some customer. Some SC might not having this issue? Yes, some Proton SC does fix the problem without this problem. And haven't mention door knorb problem that my friend's myvi.

Conclusion is, Proton and Perodua, both having the same QC. You are lucky to get good QC perodua, so do I that lucky to get good QC proton.

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