Chinese educated gf is often more submissive and passive. English educated gf is often more strong character, outgoing and active.

Chinese ed girls are more conservative and close minded. As such, they make a better wife in my opinion as they are more homely, introvert, dependent on hubby, focuses on family, higher percentage being a virgin, lesser dark past to deal with.

English ed girls are more open minded, career minded, sociable, extrovert, better being the hot gf u wanna hold and make others envious. Due to this open mindedness, it will eventually lead to a lot of family issues when they get TOO outgoing.

I am an english ed guy who has dated several english ed girls and seen too many horrifying sight from the english ed ppl. Therefore, i decided to settle my life with a chinese ed instead.

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Added on November 17, 2009, 6:18 pmWith regards to the virgin or not debate, better if the girl is as 'clean' as possible. Best is sparkling clean. Dont u agree?

This post has been edited by Pennywise: Nov 17 2009, 06:18 PM

Maybe my views may appear biased to some of you guys but the fact that conservativeness has its value is true. I am not saying english ed is no good. I've been with them all my life, virgin or not. Somehow, i just feel chinese ed is more suited for wife material. May not be for u but least for me.

On top of all that, lala in sg wang isnt what i considered to be chinese ed.

My point of view may not be suitable for all but i'm still allowed to share my pov, am i not? Like many said, boil down to taste. Bottomline, i prefer conservative girls.

On top of that, i prefer girls who tarik harga. This shows that they value who they are.

I dont know why but when i dated, as soon as i get the sex, i feel a little sien because its so easy. Maybe the problem lies with me but this self worth thing is more than just sleeping with the one u love.

You know, its just like how ppl say men never appreciate what they get easily. Much worse when u find out many other men has gotten her before. Yea, she may be open minded, memang is nothing wrong but being conversative me, i just feel no challenge means easy lay.

And i, myself cannot tell how long she has to tarik harga baru consider not easy. But so far, the girls i meet is not difficult. To my eyes, they dont have self preservation kinda thing.

Really sorry if this offend anyone. Dont mean to and wanna keep this strictly for debate. Wont u prefer to be with a guy who's xxxx less girls than more? It doesnt matter to you today but when the past catches up to your marriage with him. Who are you to say that the little devil wont creep up into cheeky acts with his ex again?

For me, i just feel better be safe than sorry. Think about what u need than what u want. Do u want a life of countless worries when ur partner goes out with his ex till late night while ur working outstation? Thats the kind of thing i was refering to.

Cheers, pls keep this a healthy debate, else i can stop posting and let ur minds track sideways thinking ur right, unstoppable and no one can debate u in a debate thread.

Cool, this debate is getting interesting. Keeping me awake. Thanks for ur views, i appreciate it. Allow me to share mine.

Correct, anything might happen as nowadays divorce and cheat is common. There's no guarantee on this.

I think u hv some point in ur post but doesnt mean u wont get bored of an english ed. Humans like beautiful things, if u get a chance to do megan fox, u probably would. Save the denies for ur gf but this is a public board.

Some ppl has come to a point in life that superficial beauty didnt matter anymore. Much depends on life experience and individual story. Juz like how u see some pretty chick date a fat boy. Must hv a story behind it.

So maybe i am a hypocrite, maybe even an egoistic ******* but the topic aint bout me today. Its about english and chinese ed difference.

I like ur post. I read some of them from the sticky section. I cant agree with u 100 percent.

I dun treat women like property / object. You see it in one direction where I take control of the woman's life. How about viewing it the other way around? The woman is dependent and closed minded. All her life is circulated around u and she wants u to lead her, protect her, be her's. This way the control is granted unto u. Women generally hate this type of women because they think these women are an embarrassments to their gender.

On the contrary, male just takes charge and lead when the controls are given to him. Makes him feel better anyway, read the sticky by jhcy on men are from mars. This is our nature, male chauvinist pig. Nothing wrong with that is there? A woman wants to follow her man all her life. So what? Say no? Disregard her? Treat her a lesser woman?

How u define real women?

Issue doesn't goes away and risk is always there but if there is something u could do about it. Why not? Why is it the first thing men think when after a break up is something they could have done to save the relationship? Because instinctively we know prevention is better than cure.

This is getting interesting. Thanks for the views. Seriously.

Hmm... Interesting. Yes, just like how chinese ed selection comes with lala. English ed selection come with their set of problems.

You see, as with all debate, we usually end it with the 'strike a balance' statement. Yes, being too passive spells boredom but no one is perfect. They may be drawback in this sense but their introvert and closed mind gives u sense of security of sorts. So, let u pick, a too active outgoing girl with high risk of cheat or a passive girl who view u as her entire life? Don't come up with a third option, choose either one. Extreme ends, I know. Do try, maybe then u will see my point.

Sorry, I don't know u well enough to take ur word for it. Tell me again when megan fox's lips is on ur zipper. Anyway, I can't take ur single experience and based the world on it.

As mentioned before, not so much on fairness, risk of cheat is there even at minimal. I didn't say I would cheat. Like I said, anyone might but I will try not to. That is the honest answer from me. Who can tell the future la? I'm sure u dont even know yours. I'm a realist.

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Added on November 17, 2009, 7:36 pmAdditional post. I'd say we both try absolute loyalty. That's what marriage is about. Prevention better than cure means I'm taking the preventive methods too, not go out, screw up and seek for forgiveness later.

This post has been edited by Pennywise: Nov 17 2009, 07:36 PM

No nitpicking bro. Chill. Yes, two different set of priorities whereby security is a necessity for a long lasting relationship while excitement isn't quite that important.

For some of us, I am sure we have had plenty of excitement in our younger years. Its time priority switch. Hehe..

Nice chatting in here again once a while but I gotta go. Shops closing down. Have a good debate.

Ini sudah celaka... turn conservative girls into wild girls eh? Yea, it's true that is possible because being locked up too much, the animal inside is raging... Hahaha...

No, it's ok, this is a 'debate' anyway.

Your statements a little wrong, not "find a girl who would be easy to control", more like find the girl who would grant you the controls and yes, I am indeed leaning towards to the perfect, naive girl type. Of course, they have their downfalls too but that doesnt make us love them any less.

When I mentioned the celebrity, it's not her status, it's her looks. You can quote any other hot chicks you can find on the net to substitute her as an example.

Who wouldnt want a little bit of life stability and control in their life? I dont want to live in a roller coaster ride everyday. I am not game for that kind of suspense and I rather take it easy, go home and be with my partner and enjoy a cup of coffee. That's not wrong, aint it?

A man that has the need for a woman to depend on him is a weak man? Every individual has their worth. Just like how you want to be the best student / employee / child. So what's wrong with being the best husband a woman can depend on? If she give you the controls, you take it. Just like how a house wife has her worth. Take for example if a lady is a housewife, does that not mean that she is dependent on her hubby knowing full well that being a housewife for 10 - 20 yrs means that she will not be able to catch up to the society and her career? This way, she depends on her hubby financially and her hubby depends on her to run the house.

No, if a women is narrow / closed minded, then she would not be too adventurous to go exploring, thus the cheat chance is lesser. To cheat isnt based on finding another man who is more dependable alone. It includes many other factors and if the woman feel you're good enough for her, even if you are not dependable, even if you declare bankruptcy at certain point in your life, she will still stand by your side. That is the nature of women. Unless you are targeting those materialistic ones only.

Haihhh... seems like I am so hard to understand.

A great woman doesnt have to be career minded. She can be a home maker and still be a great woman. The old saying here targets the personality and character, not the amount of money she can make. A supportive wife is a great woman, not a multi-millionaire lady.

Why all of your eyesights only look at men reigning over women? Why look at one controlling another? Why cant you turn around and look at it is the woman who is willingly following the man? It's not like the man make every decision of every day. The woman can voice out her opinions too and discussions too.

This is a dog.

Funny, just because a man has a woman being dependent on him means it's insecurity and egotism.

First of all, no man "NEED" a woman to be dependent on him but it's cool to have, to be able to do something for someone you love and to ensure that she is safe, happy and well. How is all this part of "NEED A WOMAN TO BE DEPENDENT ON HIM"? How about children? If your children depends on you, what's that? Egotism or insecurity? So children and wife is different? Why so? Cause children is younger and more naive? Women can be naive too, considering the fact so many get cheated these days.

This thread isnt about my attitude. Public board, this is me. You can reject, it's fine.

THere are women who are just happier being housewives. Not everyone is going with the flow of women having to be a part of the social world, women need to have career. There are just people still thinking otherwise. Again, you can reject the thought.

Hey, better be careful with words, I didnt say any women not a housewife is a slut. You are categorizing them in a wrong way. Just say there are people who has different priorities. A great woman can be one who work and yet be supportive of her hubby and has a need for him. Vice versa, a great hubby can be someone who doesnt work and yet be supportive of his wife who does. It doesnt make her any less of a woman and him any less of a man.

It's a CHOICE.

Every men has to be single for a while and eventually when they found their partner, start a family, eventually everyone will be dependent on him right? If not the wife, then the children, if not the children, then the parents. It's a cycle and the same and cannot be avoided unless you like angmoh, leave your parents at 18, kick your kids out at 18, like that.

No matter where you run, whether you want to be, need to be, dont want to be depended, you still have to be, right?

No one wants to be burdened but some times, you just have to run the show, be the lead and set example to others. This probably does show how strong or weak you are but I dont see it that way because EVERYBODY HAS TO DO IT SOMEDAY! So, you're just you, whether you gonna die a bachelor or you go with the path of marriage (means more dependencies), it's just like that.

What I am trying to say about your worth is that, the more you can provide means the more dependable you are, means the more worthy you feel. Take for example: You can only give your wife a bicycle to the market while your sister in law drives a BMW. How to you 'calculate' that? Everyone who finds love also want to provide the best for those with them, whether is the woman or the man making more money, dont matter.

Memang close or open mindedness isnt a factor. It wasnt I who came up with ideas such as "most man married to conservative women cheats." Whether you want to cheat or not, even if your wife is Elizabeth Hurley classy or Megan Fox hot, you will still cheat. Maybe I should rephrase my sentence.

Chinese ed priorities more on family
English ed priorities more on career

This is based on personal experience. Thus, I feel those who priorities more on family and have a more closed mind are less adventurous thus less chance to cheat. Maybe you have a different experience altogether but my experience has shown and proved right in my life time so far, thus this is my belief.

Please dont be offended but this statement is rubbish:
Every human being has needs, and when their needs are met, they try to move up to the next level. You may fulfil the needs of your partner, but you may not fulfil their "wants", and that is what is likely to make them cheat on you. They will stick with you, because you're dependable, and fulfil their basic needs, but they may still get extra fulfilment outside.

Why so? There are people still conservative and traditional enough to not cheat. There is probably enough broken homes around to prove this example but there are also people who hold true to their marriage even though they dont get along with their partners. Like when children comes along, they have other factors to multiply in, not just about need and wants. Come on la, life is more than that. I am sure you have parents too right? Is your mom satisfied with your dad 100%? I am sure they are some arguments some times, some discontentment, doesnt mean they'd cheat la wei... Not every couple can understand each other 120%, right?

There are people who actually still uphold their moral values ok? Even though the society today doesnt show so.

I like your animal kingdom example.

I really dont realized how shitty it is, dude. The thing is this is a debate forum and I'm free to say whatever I like, no? Just cause I bring in some disagreement, there have been name callings and the like. How mature can this debate gonna be, eh?

Anyway, yea, I am sticking to my thoughts. Women who pursue career and balanced it with family, correct but rare. You cant have everything in life and I didnt accuse nobody to be unfaithful. I am just saying the risk is higher there.

How is my attitude now?

Reign is a very heavy word. Why cant we say one lead another? I think that's the lighter version. Just like crossing the street, your boyfriend hold your hand and walk ahead of you, to protect you, to love you, to face the world head on, for you.

I didnt say I'm for men reigning over women. From my experience, I just prefer chinese ed. I hope there is nothing wrong in voicing my opinion.

Anyway, I am very curious how you categorize someone who studied in chinese primary and secondary and then been to UK to study for 4 years? Is that english or chinese ed? Or is that a mixed?

Surely, the world is changing and the women dont like to be all dependent on men because they also feel insecured if they are like 100% incapable. Yes, they work but they dont pursue something like a 6k pay. They are manageable with small amount and prioritize more on qualities of life, different from more socialable english ed does.

Maybe I dont know that many chinese eds but from what I see, this is what i was shown. They'd settle for a 3k pay and get home early just to be with their loved ones. Not work late, target the career ladder and fight with others for a promotion. Not just women. Even at work, my seniors who are male chinese ed have less fighting spirit compared to myself who is from a malay school. Therefore, I just believe this is right. Note that my examples arent based on one single person alone.


You seen the world doesnt make you any wiser ok? You can still be naive. To me, as a man, it's the same whether it's your wife or your child, you need to protect them, you want to give them the best.

Yes, I didnt come from a rich family. We all work. It's fine with working but it also depends on how far you wanna go.

Another example: You're a girl and your work require you to travel often.
English ed will see this opportunity and seize it. Making travels a norm at work means you get to see the world, meet more people and has a wider experience.

Chinese ed will see this as less time with family. Travelling is tiring and means being apart from the loved ones. Webcam just arent good enough.

Funny how you relate conservative to dead fish.

If u choose to stereotype on indian, air stewardess, men, is ur choice.

Forum puts up a debate and some of u guys just cant take it when some random guy dont see eye to eye with your idealogy.

I'm free to hv my own thoughts, preference and belief right? And i dont think its wrong even if the world is against it. Sorry, i cant flow with the majority.

LoLxx..