mine is a chinese ed max...=(

no wonder the freeze up?LOL

i'm a chinese, but i took english ed...more accurately, government school...

she chinese school all the way till entered my college (english primary language)...lol

she speak to her friends who knows mandarin in mandarin, while i speak to most people in english, unless i know those people likes to speak in cantonese, then i speak in cantonese...

with her, i speak in english, but she knows cantonese also, i'm just more used to speaking with people in english

This post has been edited by LostWanderer: Jul 25 2008, 01:50 PM

mind if i ask, what happened?lol

that's very nice of you for answering spunkberry, as it was a personal question...=), thanks

oh well, i was nice and wasn't even given an opportunity for a date...lol, yes, i've asked many times...i just wondered how many times was the truth of rejection

well, digi, i could see your point, and her's as well, but most importantly, is probably that she chose someone who was so "coincidentally" fit into that category and she claims it "right" for now...=)

i think i fell for chinese ed girls more easily than english ed...maybe because i always wanted a girl who knows how to speak mandarin...and would love to teach me more about it...

i think i could remember more of the language that way, and, free mandarin tuition...haha

and to max, thx for the replies and your time if you aren't gonna reply me by pm's again anymore...
i learnt more from you...haha

This post has been edited by LostWanderer: Jul 25 2008, 02:18 PM

don't say things are impossible, just say that we'll find a way...that's it...=)

and spunkberry, you are a great talker, i complement you on speaking that way...lol...=)

i won't say that it should be that hard spunkberry...now you are over generalizing...

now try to make some chinese ed fella to fall for you instead of you falling over him, and you might get him to change, probably...haha

out for a date you mean?

digi, i also admire the way you speak here, in a debate, you learn most, of course...
just don't let it go out of end and became an arguement

This post has been edited by LostWanderer: Jul 25 2008, 03:01 PM

just let me add you something in my psychology classes

mindset is also known as schema

you know, when you see a person, either in race, gender, etc, you already have a mindset of them

you tend to generalize these people in whatever category people fit them to you, and these people who feed these information to you are your parents, teachers, friends, media, and so on

if you meet someone who is totally out from this schema, you tend to remember them better, but you just are most likely to categorize them as they are individually special, just that there are still many of them who is unlike that one u just met...=)

seriously speaking, if you want to be a happy person, just begin a day feeling happy and so on, if something bad turns up, at least you are still alot more ok then beginning a day filled with sorrow, right?=)

ok, looks like i will need to look back into my notes about mindset then...haha

yea, respect is another factor i suppose, thanks for bringing that up pein...=)

because humans are, after all emotional creatures who loves good attention?

er...think of it as some stranger passing by and criticize on your clothing for example and you might get the point...XD

however, highly self esteem people usually tend to feel these criticizes the most, and it's true...=)

spunk, you are referring to my statement, right?

yes, and you?lol

digi, persuasion, is not forcing, don't categorize them both together...=)

persuasion is an art of changing one's perception

as i remember persuasion, lets say you are attending a seminar on being environmental friendly to factory operators

who should you employ as your speaker?
a) an environmentalist?
b) another factory operator who practices environmental friendly methods?

although asking an environmentalist is a good thing, as he is most likely to be more knowledgeable on these things, but in this situation, b ) would be likely a better choice as people would like to listen to the field they are more likely to be involved in and listen to them comparing to a phd holder...=)

get my point?

to spunkberry,

tell me more about that textbook phrase...sounds new to me...LOL
and mind my blurness...what's EE again?lol

This post has been edited by LostWanderer: Jul 25 2008, 04:02 PM

no, you don't need to study psych to understand human...

we understand human on our own way
but by studying psych, you just get those terms which makes them (human) more complicated than you know them already...LOL

This post has been edited by LostWanderer: Jul 25 2008, 04:05 PM

digi, that's a good thing that you realize what would be the less of you if there isn't a buddy which helped you along your road of life

now you just want to share that knowledge you gain to help others, which is also a good thing...=)

This post has been edited by LostWanderer: Jul 25 2008, 04:10 PM

you don't need to be repeatedly exposed to the stimuli to be persuaded, you just get accustomed to it, through tenacity...like what your parents told you to not talk to strangers or if not you will get kidnapped or something like that...lol

if the persuasion was strong, like what martin luther king jr or mohammad ghandi is, you just need it once, and there, you change...=)

This post has been edited by LostWanderer: Jul 25 2008, 04:14 PM

yup, manipulating is also another form of persuasion, the only difference is, manipulating just gets the other person to follow your way, while persuasion is to change one's mind...lol

in short, manipulation is usually for raking in self benefits, i believe

come on digi, sometimes, it's not probably your style as well, but in persuasion, there might be also the need for another to change

if this mindset was shaky, then you might get to break through it easily, but if it was strong, you get fired back, it just becomes stronger...so, the battle continues...and the winner stays with their points

the loser, either one gives up persuading or the persuadee changes his or her mindset, and it became the opposite extreme then...=)

it's all in the books...XD

ok, i might sound confusing above, sorry...in short and better english

if the victor is the persuader, he makes the persuadee on his side, and the persuadee stand now is as strong as the persuader

if the persuader loses, this will cause the persuadee to have a stronger point of view, due to the idea generation which happened at then, and would have a stronger point than before the persuasion...=)

This post has been edited by LostWanderer: Jul 25 2008, 04:29 PM