LoL, like I said you just don't understand, in which part of DoW2 have a aiming cursor for you to shoot? I might agree with zooming your camera all the way to a "near first person view", but that would mean suicide for your game.

FPS with RTS controls?, the game coming closest to FPS with RTS controls is Sacrifice and Full Spectrum Warrior, tho keep in mind they are not fully first person still.
FPS = First Person Shooter

Can we just drop this now? Seems like there are a lot of people who cant seem to take some opinion that is different from them.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Feb 5 2009, 07:07 PM

Im sure cheesenium understands whats a fps means, he just wanna describe DoW2 is too fast-paced, almost as fast as an fps game. IMHO DoW2 is much faster than CoH, and its predecessor. Its like World in Conflict, instead of green flare you got a main building.

Actually FPS is kinda a wrong comparison if you wanna compare DOW2 as fast pace..

I say that DOW2 is just like Battle realms.. really really small army but alot of weaponary.

Opinion is good when you have logic and reason to back it up, but when a counter reason is put on the table, you say people can't take your opinion?

like I said, "very fast pace" does not equals FPS.

Yeap,thats what i want to say.I have played a fair amount of FPS.Not like that i havent touch an FPS before.

Things just happen too fast as if it's a FPS.

I think that it's even faster than WiC.

DoW2 is like RTS with steroids overdose.

Battle Realms is awesome.

I dont think DoW2 is anything like Battle Realms.

Yes,i did say that it's fast paced,just feels like playing a typical FPS than a RTS.

Most FPS are very fast paced,like UT3,Quake,CS,or even CoD.Playing DoW2 feels exactly like im playing those mentioned FPS.

Now,what you want me to back up with? Numbers? Evidence? I dont have those,sorry.

From the post above, it's clear that you have mixed up your gaming sensation with genre, whereby a game which gives you a sense of fast pacing equates to FPS.

LOL ...Too much negative emotions on the forums todays...chill guys...no need to get so worked up about nuthin'...

So no one interested in how the CO-OP SP will work?

Ok,fine.This is what i think about DoW2.You have your own opinion,i have my own opinion.

It could be the reason that DoW2 is just way too streamlined compare to DoW and CoH which makes the game feels fast.

I'll just leave it here.

Nope. I'll get pirated copy if I were to play SP Moreover, I dont see the campaign is going to be interesting after all. Co op is just some marketing gimmick for those who eager to boost up their sales.

Could this be the GG to DoW2 future support ??

If not for the comments, things would be much better, like what TheNameX experienced before this.

Probably not, for quite some time.

Seriously though brother Cheese, if you ever play starcraft 1v1 on high level IT IS A MUCH FASTER GAME THAN DOW2.

I vividly recall the old days of zealots 2 slash 1 marine and if the bunker goes down gg no re. The only thing made it slower was the harvesting in the start. After that it is constant fighting like pulling hair. One second you are not there all can be lost. There was no cover, no turret at base everything was plain and naked.

Alternatively you can also consider you are slow.


EDIT:

That said though the problem of DOW2 is when large fight happens, I have seen before in 3v3 mass gaunts with asm running around and if either play click wrong and their dedicated CC unit whacking the wrong thing and theirs CC specialist whacking yours things happens so fast and with the lag gg no re, definitely a pitfall for the new play style.

This post has been edited by Waba: Feb 5 2009, 08:55 PM

Alright,enough is enough.You are all correct.You are all pros.Or maybe,my views are just all flawed or im just crap in games.

So,just sit back and enjoy your DoW2.

Cheers.

It's not like cheese literally called it a FPS, what he was trying to say DoW2 is as fast paced as FPS, the speed dawg, THE SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEED.

Oh well...

Debates = serious buisness

Anyway is there other strats to counter a garrisoned bolter other than
a) Nades
b) Occupy it early
c) Sniper, Flamer
d) Lictor flesh hook
e) Forgetting that area and concentrate on other

Hello,
Newbie Steam user here , I'm trying to login to Steam server but it just stuck there forever ... so I decided to reinstall Steam , now it cant even update at all .. stuck at 0%
Can anybody tells me whats my problem ? I already forward the ports that required by Steam .
Thank you.

This post has been edited by YooNJuN: Feb 5 2009, 09:36 PM

I am referring to the speed, not his description.

Actually DOW2 is fast pace, but no where near the neck breaking pace as cheese describe. As of to date the most neck breaking RTS game that I ever played is still Star Craft. Every second counts in SC, be it building stuff, training man, ordering harvest and fighting. Almost all units dies in seconds in direct confrontation. What really made SC seems slower is the initial harvesting and base rape thats all.

Strangely those days no one seems to mind.

Why DOW2 seems so fast paced is that the fight is already on long before the engagement: your hero choice, the units you produce. your positioning and your strategy plus the fact they took out the base buildings and on the field reinforcement system.

Think of it, a healthy fight in DOW2 be it 3v3 or 1v1 still takes about 20 mins, about right. Considering that no more base building and stuff thats actually like "normal" pace.


Fast pace? Yeah for sure.
Too fast pace as in CS style 0.5 sec your hand slowed and got sniped and die straight? Definitely not.

how long you wait ? Sometimes deep patient is needed for the update, or try restart your PC (not reformat, mind you)

This post has been edited by Fatimus: Feb 5 2009, 09:38 PM

Flank, melta bomb...move in...

Assault Marines...the coolest way to counter heavily entrenched enemies

Restart your router. If still no good restart your router till you get good IP ranges (varies depending on when you live), avoid the new 11x.xxx.xxx.xxx

And make sure... no one else is hogging the bandwidth, esp torrent users.