Yeah,that one was epic.As good as HW2's campaign.

Anyway,i just found out that DoW2 will only feature SM,Eldar,Orks and Nids as playable race.Nids is the last playable race for first game.

No Chaos. Where is my Rubric Marines?

Hope Relic will do Chaos properly in expansion.Maybe we can see a Slaneshi Legion.

SS made me stop playing DoW.

It's just too bad for me to continue to play DoW.

Hmm... it's from Australia,with that big ugly Mature logo on the box.

Nothing so far,other than some bad news.If not,it's the same campaign news again and again.

Relic said that the campaign may not be moddable.So,there is a high chance we wont see any Eldar or Orks campaign made by some modders.

DoW2 might be the next CoH where there is very little working mod tools.

This suxs.

Yeah,but modding helps devs too in some way like help them to employ talented people.Relic did employ some talented modders in DoW.Like the ex-leader of the Tau Mod and offered a job to WH Mod's leader.EA,Epic and Valve did that too.Without mods,we wont see Portal,BF2,TF2,CS:S,GoW... today.

Even if that map takes over the main game,it still helps to keep the game alive.If CS doesnt exist,people would have dump HL years ago.Dont tell me you gonna play HL 20 times.It happens with all mod friendly games,Desert Combat outshine BF1942,CS outshine HL,loads of UT mods outshine UT2004 and lastly,our nemesis,DotA outshine WC3.

I dont see anything wrong with modding.I wont even buy DC if mods like DoS,DoWPro,IDH,WH etc doesnt exist.

I know that most mods never get completed,because games these days are getting more and more complex but still,getting a chance to play a mod does make a game being played longer.

It's just the same problem with patches in DoW.THQ and Relic are lazy to do it.Still,some people are blaming GFWL for making DoW2 mod unfriendly.It seems like Microsoft is killing PC games in some way to boost their XBox360 sales.

If Relic is really serious on making DoW2 mod unfriendly,i might not be playing DoW2 at all.Their support is bad enough and im not counting much on it.I know CoH have better support now but i dont think it will last long.The same incident might happen again like Relic reduce support for DoW after CoH is released.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Sep 7 2008, 12:35 PM

@frags,

Does Total War have good mods support?

Could you show me some of them?

If they have good mods support,i'll probably get the game too.

You beat me.I got 2GBs of DoW Mods files,plus my own 250MB mod.

Empire Total War will on top of my list now.

I love mods because in most cases,modders out do what the original devs did.

I like to mess around with things if i have played the game a lot.Build an amp from scratch back home.It sounds as good as a RM400-500 2.1 sound system.

Thats why i made that graphics mod which is RIP now.For fun and upgrade the aging DoW.Waiting for the new AE tools to come out.Thank gawd someone is making a new one so that i can port to SS,if i want.

Honestly,it's freaking awesome to play a modified version of DoW where you got 11 race in DC and brand new high poly models and new high res textures for older race.It is imba (like in my build,Steel Legion is underpower and IDH is strong in late game)but for the sake completeness of the Warhammer 40k Universe,imba doesnt matter anymore.

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Added on September 7, 2008, 3:17 pmReally impressive.The quality is very high.Almost the same as the devs's quality.Only the elephant look a bit weird.

I think i should learn C so that i can understand game codes better.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Sep 7 2008, 03:25 PM

No wonder.They should remake the elephant.

All mod teams are like that,consist of 5-20 people that work on and off.No one can work on a mod everyday.

Yeah,i know.Most game engines use either C or C++.

Why does mods in general have nothing to do with DoW?

Relic gonna make DoW2 mod unfriendly.

From my past experience with DoW,modding is not easy.Even something simple like adding a unit takes forever to complete.Thats why mods in DoW takes forever to complete.It's not that they are lazy,it's just damn hard to it.Especially there is no official tools to work with in SS.One of the veteran modders gave up modding SS because there is no proper tools.

Besides,what i see in CoH,the mods tools is so limited.They only have a map tools that actually work and a buggy mission editor.Lack of mod tools was one of the reason i dont want to play OF.In SS,they only released SS's lua which is all the attribute files and no official tools.

Based on Relic's current track record in support,I dont think DoW2 modding will get any better.Even with good tools,it's still gonna take forever because it's so much more complex now.Getting even a working modtools is impossible since Relic hates modding.

I know you all dont care about modding.In fact,some of you here just hate it because it's not balanced or whatever reason.Mod race isnt any more imba than any current imba race in vanilla SS.They have playtesters to balance it reasonably and they are beatable if you know their weakness.They are not made in a way that they can WTF pawn other race.

Modding means a lot to me.Even if i dont mod,mods keeps the game feels new.

If Dow2 have crappy or no modding,im out of here.It's doesnt worth my RM150 to buy a game just for multiplayer.

THQ is getting worse than EA.

That was before.Im playing multiplayer now with Sins and RA3.

Even with all the DoW2 "hype",i dont really feel the hype.The same stuff just keep on being recycled all the time.

It's not even done yet.The entire Ork army's new models are not team colourable and some of the new models are not working properly.There is huge performance drop in game.It's buggy as hell.If i release it,all i'll get is negative comments.Have you ever seen how ungrateful people can get in relicnews?Even completed mods are getting b**** as if it's a piece of crap.

It also the reasons why most major mods take years to release.Modding DoW is not easy,compare to SC or WC3.It will just get harder as newer games coming out.

I dont care about my mod but most of you guys just so negative towards mods in general.I used to promote IDH here but in the end,no one tried because it's an imba fest.I dont even bother to post DC SL Mod and a few handful of newer mods here.

I didnt b**** RA3 imba.I used to complain it that EA gonna screw it up but it is not that badly screwed up in the beta.I never intend to play RA3.It's just that my friend recommended me to try when the beta keys are being given out.If not,i wont even touch the beta because i dont have KW.At least it's more fun and less buggy than SS.

Since it's a open beta,why dont i just try for fun? I'll definitely do that if SC2,DoW2 or any game have an open beta even i dont intend to buy the game in the end.

So,what kind promise i need to make?My mod gonna be release in what day what time etc?

No modders own you anything.

Yeah,is there anything wrong with changing my mind?

SC2 used to be a piece of utter crap last year,after Blizzcon 2007,where Terran is exactly the same as SC1,Protoss is getting lots of stupid changes like Stasis Orb and Zerg is still under the wraps. So,you expect me to say SC2 still rocks?The current situation of SC2 is way better than when it's first announced.

Im not a fanboy of any company.If they are doing something stupid,i have the right to say something about it,even the devs dont give a shit.If they do something good,i would praise them in some way.

Is there anything wrong with having an opinion on something?

I never said i have anything skills to show you.

What you expect me to do?Write a petition?

Alright,thats it.I had enough.Go on if you all want.I wont reply anymore.

Anyway,there is a podcast here.

Havent download it.No time to listen.

Read some of the comments on RelicNews.Seems like base building are still in multiplayer.

There is a new community manager to replace Buggo.

Now,we have Graham “Thunder” Somers.



Source



This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Sep 11 2008, 04:48 PM

Im playing RA3 is because it's a much superior game compare to C&C3 and Generals.It's pretty fun but it's pretty broken now.

Same,i love W40k Universe.Thats the reason i want to mod it.

They should do something about this.At least a patch to fix those abuse like the SoB's LP problem.

Frankly saying,im not expecting a full patch to fix the bad textures,balance problems or broken animations.I just want the really serious exploits to be fixed.

Relic should know that they have lots of loyal fans.Pissing these loyal fans off isnt gonna be a good thing to them.

Anyway,we have a new community manager.Hope something will be done.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Sep 12 2008, 02:09 PM

Ok,i'll post your comic in the Relic's blog.

Anyway,a pretty interesting preview is on Worth Playing.

There are a few notable things from this preview.



...and,this one...



Isnt it Thule is the FC in DC's campaign?

He's a Dread now.

I just hope i'll never see the cultist head spize marinez FC again.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Sep 12 2008, 02:39 PM

I guess this news would be the news that everyone wants to hear since SS release.

Here is it.



Source: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=204115



This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Sep 17 2008, 05:05 PM