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ar188
post Mar 6 2008, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 5 2008, 05:32 PM)
kena poison...GOOD!! biggrin.gif

PCM sound the best ... those dts-ma or DolbyTrueHD is only lossless, PCM is the uncompress sound...
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err.. I tot all should be the same - uncompressed from the master track, except DTS or dolby put in their own style of mixing levels, equalization and such
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post Mar 6 2008, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 6 2008, 01:43 PM)
end result should be same lar but..after compress then decode again...would there be any detail loss after all these processes??
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lossless compression la...where got loss?
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post Mar 6 2008, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 6 2008, 01:56 PM)
*becos somebody amp can only do PCM
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y you don't put your amp for garage sale then? biggrin.gif get 663 mah..
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post Mar 6 2008, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(sham73 @ Mar 6 2008, 02:13 PM)
thats also take into a count aaa..  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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sure la, lossless compression able to reconstruct the original signal without throwing away any bits mah... like ZIP file.
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post Mar 6 2008, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Mar 6 2008, 04:51 PM)
but zip process got bit loss or not?
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of coz no loss la (LOSSLESS MAH!!)... for example

00000000000010

can be represented by 0x12+1+0 which is shorter space but you still be able to make back the original signal. (no loss)


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post Mar 7 2008, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Mar 7 2008, 10:06 AM)

1800 has better everythin..
except better price.. tongue.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Mar 7 2008, 08:15 PM

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yeah I think it's pass thro video switching, and not video processing (which is modifying your 24fps signal)..
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Mar 7 2008, 10:12 PM)
Then means the TV can still accept my PS3 24fps signal?...so if my PS3 can decode all tracks to LPCM..then the 661 can always accept it...so no need for 663 laa right?
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true except PS3 cant decode and send out the DTS-MA signal yet..
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post Mar 12 2008, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Mar 10 2008, 11:26 PM)
they can do the DTS MA signal via PCM ma
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that's not DTS-MA

that's DTS-MA (CORE at 1.5mbps) i.e. not the full MA, just partial MA.

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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Mar 13 2008, 09:41 AM)
nice but need a paradigm shift in income or not? to afford them? tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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post Mar 13 2008, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Mar 13 2008, 01:14 PM)
no need - just rm4700 for 5.1
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wah not bad.

how much if I just want the main speaker (1pair) and centre..
looks decent.. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 13 2008, 01:38 PM

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wah how many centre speakers you want? hehe!


Added on March 13, 2008, 1:39 pmcinema 330 centres look dem cool..


Added on March 13, 2008, 1:40 pmInternational Distributor


taken from the website wor.. I wonder where in KL is this dealer??



Malaysia

For the name of your nearest dealer in Malaysia please contact:

Contact :

Derek Tan

Distributor :

Asia Sound Equipment (M) SDN. BHD.

Country :

Malaysia

Phone :

03 261 6091

Fax :

03 264 1854

Email :

asiasound@po.jaring.my

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http://www.paradigm.com/en/pdf/reviews/fro..._review_266.pdf

review

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post Mar 14 2008, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Mar 13 2008, 10:59 PM)
actually they are sold separately in the US and Canada. I think here too should be no problem. Go to Asia Sound in Amcorp mall to audition
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have to Lug your AV amp there or not when audition, after all, different brand amps have different outcomes.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 15 2008, 02:46 PM

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wah elite, buy 1st, if dun like then just sell at firesale 50% loss..?? wah!
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post Apr 17 2008, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Apr 17 2008, 02:27 PM)
i think the rx-v1800 is out for me too

Output at clipping (1 kHz into 8/4 ohms)
1 channel driven: 158/281 W (22/24.5 dBW)*
5 channels driven (8 ohms): 103 W (20.1 dBW)
7 channels driven (8 ohms): 55 W (17.4 dBW)
Distortion at 1 watt (THD+N, 1 kHz)
8/4 ohms: 0.02/0.03%
Noise level (A-wtd): -73.4 dB
Excess noise (with sine tone)
16-bit (EN16): 0.9 dB
Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20 kHz +0, -0.2 dB
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eh... I tot someone here said yammy always rate their power at all channels driven? meaning it should be more like 90-100W min?

looks like they are also following the trend now...
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post Apr 17 2008, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 17 2008, 02:31 PM)
eh... I tot someone here said yammy always rate their power at all channels driven? meaning it should be more like 90-100W min?

looks like they are also following the trend now...
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but seriously, I think 55 quality watts (exc. subwoofer) is sufficient for my usual listening mode..
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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Apr 17 2008, 02:44 PM)
I think sound and vision one is real world power, they test on their test bench equipment wor..
maybe it's like Jap manufacturer claim engine is 200BHP but in real world dyno test...it's like 130HP at the wheels.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Apr 17 2008, 02:56 PM)
All receivers specs are factory rated one, not real world. No receivers will achieve what they say on their own manual..

Whatever it is, my 1800 is powerful enough at -13dB. I only go up to -7dB when I go crazy release tension mode. And that even after -6 level trim!
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that's why good to get real world test results..

even projectors with ANSI lumens, some with 700-900lm after calibration will give better results than those 2000lm light cannons...


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QUOTE(apisgogo @ Apr 17 2008, 02:58 PM)
uiyo, -13dB? quite loud lah! smile.gif

my 661 at -16dB is very very loud already.. maybe different settings.. smile.gif
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remember that your amp doesn't "see" what your speakers are doing...so, diff speakers with diff sensitivity at different frequency will be doing different things....

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QUOTE(Reix @ Apr 17 2008, 05:21 PM)
It is 7.2, there are 2 input jacks for Subwoofer 1 & 2.
You will get deeper bass sound if you use both.
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izzit? I tot deeper bass is dependent on the type of sub woofer?... not every sub can go 16-18Hz with even if you tambah 5 budget sub units to the sound system..
. while for some using just one REL can already settle that deep bass biggrin.gif

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