The 3d graphics card supplied in the asus F5VL is a ATI Radeon X2300 and thats a gaming card? Yeah getting last years normal graphics card is a good investment, no wonder its so cheap.

Seriously can play crysis on a 8400m gs? What resolution was the game set and what quality settings was it on, plus what was the average frame rate?

I plan to get an asus with a 9500m or ati equivalent card but i'm not 2 sure if it will support Fallout 3 since there arent any game requirements for fallout 3.

What laptop would u guys recommend for business user who travels quite frequently but still has to have windows xp pre-installed?

So far my choice are are dell and lenovo thinkpad series but their quite expensive, especially the lenovo and my colleague need to use autocad on the go but they usually use autocad lt for 2d functions and no 3d functions at all.

The budget im looking for is around rm4000-5000.

Actually it was selling for SGD1699 so but it was a very good deal but one time i see the machine put me off from buying. Looks damn cheap. I hope they will showcase the dell mini since i'm quite interested in getting it.

Well its true their inspiron series feels cheap like hell. But their Latitude series are quite good since i have used and owned a few and there were great for the most part. I know a guy who had a latitude for 4 years and it broke down only once in the 2nd year, after that it was still functioning.

If i were to buy a business laptop, it would either be the dell latitude but if i had a bigger budget then i would for the thinkpad series. So far i havent tried the lenovo thinkpad series for an extended time but when the thinkpads were still under ibm, they were rock solid and the best in terms of quality since it never broke down, even after the 3 warranty period expired.

But you have to admit that any brand of laptop will fail on you after some time and depending on how you abuse it. You cant have 0% defect but the thinkpads and latitude are pretty close at eliminating most of the QC problems.

I just ordered a new latitude E series and from what i know, they say its built like a thinkpad with chunky metal screen hinges. I was abit dissapointed with the latitude d630 in the build deparment since it felt like the old inspiron model.

The T is now 2nd best, its being replaced by the P series.

All the brands are quite good if you looking for 5k price. Only issue is specs and that you have to check it out yourself.

If you more business oreinted, then the dell and HP are good buy but their business laptops dont have very good graphics card.

Both dell and toshiba notebooks are pricy.

I would rather get a sager or the new MSI notebook. Much cheaper but you dont have customer support for sager but i believe MSI warranty is global so even if you bought from another country, you could technically still claim warranty.

Plus the new ATI 4850 mobile is just as good if not abit better then the 9800GTS plus the MSI would be way cheaper at around rm 5k. Hard to beat that at price point, even gateways new FX series cant match for price.

U again? How many time have 2 tell you. No such laptop at 2k can play crysis or COD at med. Aduh, even powerful desktop got problems playing crysis you want laptop somemore.

For 2k you can forget playing any of those games, play dota and maple no problem. Dont even think of trying 2008 games since 2k laptop sure tak boleh.

You want 2 play crysis at med to high, you need at least 5k for good gaming laptop.

impossible to play at high setting on benq42, it will lag so much u will be looking at picture rather then moving object. Benq42 low, maybe med but will still lag. Plus screen resolution have to put very low as well.

On a 9600gt the game is playable at low graphic setting with low resolution. Goto medium then become quite laggy.

But at low it looks terrible. You have 2 play at least med or high to appreciate the game, if not better you play cs source.

You know it would be simpler to tell us what games you want 2 play. Since rm2.5k cant relly buy u a "true" gaming laptop. Nowadays most laptops can play simple games.

I notice you guys budget for laptops a low, very low. Some at 2k or 3k for gaming laptop. And your only recourse is the benq 42. Personally i wouldnt go for it since build and the looks arent that good.

Not suck in performance, have some quality issue with it.