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Art & Design So you're interested in ARCHITECTURE? Version 2, A guide to becoming an Architect.

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post Jun 21 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(nastenka @ Jun 21 2010, 01:53 PM)
It seemed that i made a wrong choice of putting UKM as 1st choice.
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What if i needs the recognition of degree by LAM in UKM, I have to take an exam in part 1 & 2 independently?!
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Yes, graduates from non-recognized unis have to take LAM Parts 1 and 2.
However, I'm quite sure the issue of recognition/accreditation would have been sorted out by the time you graduate.
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post Jun 22 2010, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(nastenka @ Jun 21 2010, 11:27 PM)
so that's mean i have nothing to be worried?! =D
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Yes, I would say so. You'll have to be really unlucky if they don't get the accreditation 5 years down the road.
Just a side note, you need to work on your English, nastenka.

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jun 24 2010, 05:42 PM)
i was just told that out of 30 offers for degree sent out, some did not reply or rejected the offer by UTM. so if u're one who went for the interview but didnt get the offer, try merayu now.

dont tell them i said this biggrin.gif.
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Only 30 places for the degree course? Is that all?
I was wondering what the minimum grades are to get a place?

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QUOTE(applewky @ Jun 26 2010, 12:54 PM)
mean UTM will receive student from IPTS in the future??

wat a great news~
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Before UTM would consider students from the IPTS for the remaining 20 places, they would consider the diploma graduates from the other IPTA's - the polytechnics. There is a long list (20 over) - http://www.politeknik.edu.my/webjan06/menu/index.asp

So, do you think there is much chance for the IPTS?

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jul 2 2010, 04:52 PM)
usually, with a part 1 equivalent degree, u should be able to sit for the exam individually. i'm not sure what that lecturer told u. u might have misunderstood what he said, or he didnt say it clearly...
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Parts 1 & 2 exams, to be taken together, are for those who graduated with a B. Arch from non-recognized universities. It is not meant to be an alternative route to getting a Part 2 for those with a recognized Part 1.

Since when did UTAR offer degree course in Architecture?

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QUOTE(abulabu @ Jul 4 2010, 09:08 AM)
I heard University of Tasmania(UTAS) arent that bad too
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It is 'not bad' in the sense that it is easier to get in compared to other unis.
It is not in the Group of 8, the top unis in Australia and is ranked quite low.

Added on July 4, 2010, 11:30 am
QUOTE(NgaOzll @ Jul 3 2010, 11:41 PM)
so, is it meaning that(does it mean that), with a degree in architecture, i should be able to sit for part 1,
then after i continue until i get a B.Arch, then only i sit for my part2?
so both is taken separately?

this is one of the new courses they offered biggrin.gif
their course fees is(are) much cheaper than Taylor's. rclxms.gif

thank you smile.gif
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I just mentioned that the UTAR degree is not a degree in Architecture.
You have to continue your studies overseas to get your B.Arch like the Taylor's degree.
Parts 1 & 2 cannot be taken separately. They are meant for B. Arch graduates from non-recognized unis and is taken after completion of a full B.Arch, albeit a non-recognized one.

P.S. I just found out that the new course offered by UTAR is Bachelor of Science in Architecture, which is similar to Taylor's course. It is a cheaper alternative as a stepping stone to B. Arch in an accreditated uni overseas then. The quality of teaching is to be proven but from what I heard about Taylor's course, the quality of the course is reasonable.

Added on July 4, 2010, 11:42 am
QUOTE(dianonaid @ Jul 3 2010, 09:33 PM)
1. JPA-bound Architecture graduates will normally be placed in which sector in the government?

Which sector in the government will the JPA graduates be placed?
In any of the government departments which require the services of architects - JKR has the most (HQ and JKR of each state), local authorities, SEDC's, quasi-govt companies.

2. What kind of job will they be offered once they graduate?
As architects - design, project implementation, building control (local authorities), etc
But most of the sizeable government projects are farmed out to private architects.

3. Which university in Australia is the best one for architecture, in your opinion? Cause in UM I've asked my lecturer, Prof Jaafar, he said QUT or RMIT. The JPA officer told me RMIT. My senior who went to do architecture in Aussie, said Uni of Adelaide. I searched the internet, it says Uni of Adelaide and Uni of Melbourne. I wanna set my aim now so that I can have a clearer goal as I'm preparing myself for AUSMAT.  hmm.gif

I bet your lecturer graduated from one of the two unis.
UQ's requirement for entry to Architecture is the highest, followed by Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, etc. (the Group of 8 unis). QUT and RMIT were formerly polytechnics which were upgraded to uni status.
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Added on July 7, 2010, 2:03 pmThis thread has been unusually quiet, which is rather unusual?

Where is azarimy? Busy with preparing for the new academic year?

Has anyone started on the UTAR architecture course (B.Sc Architecture). I wonder what the course is like.
It must be easy to get jobs as lecturers inArchitecture these days with so many colleges and unis offering the course.

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QUOTE(vorein @ Jul 25 2010, 12:46 PM)
hai.. im kinda new here. I was thinking to apply for architecture program. 
Here's what i have in mind. I call UCSI before and they said I have to apply for one year foundation and then go to 3 years degree for part 1. And then went for 2 years master in Robert Gordon to obtain part 2. I concern that UCSI does not accredited by MQA or LAM is it ? 

So, Do i finish my Part 1 degree and take the exam. Or continue to take the part 2 before i can take the exam ?

and also, DO I HAVE TO continue part two in overseas? Doesnt any institution here's in Malaysia offers Part Two after I finish my degree (Part 1)?

another question is, I come across This website which is Kolej Laila Taib (www.klt.edu.my), which is formerly known as Kolej Bersatu Sarawak based in Sibu. They offered Diploma in Architecture and also they mention that they are accredited by MQA. (You can go to the website if your not sure what im talking about)

is it better for me to enter Kolej Laila Taib than UCSI because KLT is already accredited. Plus, its nearest to my hometown which is i think can be an advantage on lowering cost for living instead of living in KL.

i also wish to apply for IPTA, but i really dont know how. Can i just direct apply to UTM instead of using UPU? Fyi, i finish my SPM in 2003. Can i still apply ? Its just that i dont have art for my subject before that I cannot apply for any architecture subject in any IPTA's. But i do have a little experience working in this field.

I hope anyone who knows about this can answer, especially to MR Azarimy.
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Hi vorein
1. The accreditation given by MQA does not mean much. Most of the IPTS's do have the accreditation from MQA. What is important in architecture is the accreditation given by LAM, which I understand none of the IPTS's have received.

2. To complete a recognized degree in architecture through the IPTA, one needs to further his/her studies overseas. Azarimy has mentioned before that it is possible for diploma graduates from the IPTS's to get a place in the IPTA but it seems no one has gone through that route.

3. I think the college you mentioned KLT offers technician courses rather than prepares you for the degree.
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QUOTE(kristenkimkim @ Jul 25 2010, 01:33 PM)
70-80k A YEAR?!?!?
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The only IPTS I know which charges such exorbitant fees in Malaysia (around RM400K for 5-yr course) is the IMU for the Medical/Dentistry degree courses.
Otherwise 30+K fees per year is considered steep for Malaysian standards. wink.gif

Added on July 25, 2010, 6:14 pm
QUOTE(darth6 @ Jul 25 2010, 06:07 PM)
Anyone has experience going through the Part 1 & 2 joint exam by LAM and PAM ? How was it ?

Finished my foundation in an ipts,but if I continue my degree there,will have to take the exam above sad.gif
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I wonder which IPTS that is. I thought there is none at the moment which offers a complete LAM-accredited architecture degree. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(darth6 @ Jul 25 2010, 10:07 PM)
Erm,i think you're not reading it correctly.If it was accredited,i wouldn't need to sit for the exam.
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What I meant was, you can't just complete a first degree (B.Sc or B.A. in Architecture) or diploma in IPTS locally (eg. TUC/LKW/UTAR, etc) and sit the LAM Part 1 and 2 exam like you said.
You need to complete a B.Arch first before you are eligible to sit for Parts 1 & 2.
At present, there is no B. Arch course offered by any of the local IPTS which means you have to do it overseas.
If you were to do your degree overseas, it is most unlikely that you'll do it in a non-accredited university. So, Parts 1 and 2 will not come into the picture.

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QUOTE(darth6 @ Jul 28 2010, 02:57 PM)
I'm doing my degree (Part 1) at TUC,thus I can't sit for the part 1 exam after I finish this degree ? I must finish my Part 2 1st,then only I can sit for the Parts 1 - 2 exam ?
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Yes, read this: http://lam.gov.my/examinations.html
You can call LAM to confirm.
TUC should be able to advise you also.
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QUOTE(milu @ Aug 1 2010, 01:07 PM)
As a business class student,
is it very tough to handle landscape architecture course ?
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Landscape architecture, like architecture and interior design, is about design and art.
The principles are the same, just that the media (trees, shrubs, pavings & other landscape elements) are different.
Landscape architecture can also be defined as the design of outdoor spaces and spaces between buidlings. There is some overlap between the study of architecture and landscape architecture. You should have an interest in drawing, be fairly creative and have a sense of aesthetics(beauty). It is more of an art rather than a science. Do you have appreciation for gardens, parks and outdoor spaces?
It does not matter whether you are a business class student or economy class student. wink.gif

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QUOTE(milu @ Aug 3 2010, 09:34 AM)
However, i not good in art.i cant draw ...i cant draw...
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You must have some interest in drawing, otherwise architecture/landscape architecture is not suitable for you.
There is a lot of drawing involved.

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QUOTE(vorein @ Aug 4 2010, 01:22 AM)
thank you for your feedback...

and what do you means by technician courses actually?
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OK, it is not a complete degree in architecture.
As I said, none of the IPTS's offers a complete degree in architecture (Part 2) as yet.
They would not offer it since their Part 1 is not even recognized.

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QUOTE(milu @ Aug 3 2010, 11:24 PM)
Ya, i have interest on them..when i looking on those awesome building,i feel amazing.i want to design building that will amaze people too
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Being able to appreciate building is one thing, drawing and designing buildings is another.
You do need to be fairly artistic and creative to start with. Of course the skill can be developed to a cerrtain extent.

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QUOTE(OA92 @ Aug 12 2010, 12:07 PM)
Thanks for the reply.

Im not able to find the requirements for the undergraduate architecture programme at uitm for an international student. can you help me with that?

If you can't find the information you want in the university' website, write  to the university direct.

also, can you tell if i go to a private uni for the undergrad, will i be able to do the part 2 from a public uni? I mean do public unis take part 1 students from private unis

I am not aware that any of the private universities (IPTS) awards a Part I qualification.
According to azarimy, the public universities do consider taking in students with diploma from private  unis but I wouldn't bank my hopes on that if I were you.
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most IPTS certificates arent enough for u to apply to an IPTA alone. u must equip it with working experience, some competition wins and the likes.


wow, isn't this asking too much? The fact that they have not taken in any candidate from the private unis to date speaks for itself. For that matter, I don't think the IPTA's generally take in students from IPTS halfway through the course. Why, the internationally recognized A-levels is not accepted by the IPTA's (for local candidates).

BTW - Are you done with your postgrad studies?

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QUOTE(OA92 @ Aug 17 2010, 03:27 PM)
I thought you said i could apply with A levels :S
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Foreign students can apply with A-levels.

Local students cannot apply with A-level. Local students are expected to do STPM or matriculation.

It is a political decision more than anything else.
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QUOTE(fire11 @ Aug 20 2010, 06:37 PM)
where can i get malacca building regulation? for example, height restriction?? any pro can help me?? T.T
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The height control of buildings does not come under building regulations. It depends on the zoning of an area by the town planning department of the local authority, so it varies from one local authority to another. The zoning of a place is also reviewed from time to time so requirements are not static. You have to check with the town planning department concerned on the current restrictions of an area - the first step an Architect should do before designing a building.

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There are many factors which determine height limits of buildings. Where there is an airport nearby, buildings within the flight path are restricted in height. Another factor is how the town planners want the skyline of a city to look.
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You seem to be a bit biased against Australian unis, which is understable since you went through the UK system.
Fact is, architecture degree from all the Aussie unis are recognized by LAM. Australia used to be a cheaper place than UK but with the strong Aussie dollar, high tuition fees and low UK pound, UK is probably cheaper on the average.

As far as I know, both Taylors and LUCT do not offer a full degree course in architecture. I don't forsee them offering the full course in the near future because of the issue of recognition. As it is, they are struggling to get the accreditation of their lst degree by LAM.
SAM is also recognized by most UK unis except probably the few in the Ivy League.
I've been told that Taylor's diploma graduates have also managed to transfer to UK to continue with the degree course (there are some in Strathclyde U) even the twinning programme is meant for Australia.
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QUOTE(dianonaid @ Sep 2 2010, 06:54 PM)
I'm currently taking AUSMAT before leaving to Australia to pursue a degree in architecture. The subjects that I'm taking are Chemistry, Physics, Economics, English and Maths.

I'd like to drop Chemistry and take Accounting instead. Would that affect me in my degree studies later on? Or would it be okay?
Because as far as I'm concerned, they didn't specify any subjects requirements in the university requirements (eg. Uni of Melb, Adelaide and RMIT), but just the overall score of AUSMAT exam.

But I'm not exactly doing the real AUSMAT syllabus not till January 2011, now is just the introductory programme.

So, I would like to know anyone's opinions, will I survive in my future undergraduate course without the subject Chemistry?
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No, you're be fine without taking Chemistry for pre-U. There is some chemistry involved in the study of building materials but chemistry at SPM should be sufficient.
Economics is also relevant when you do building economics, which is one of subjects.
There is also some elements of accounting in the Professional Practice course, and you'll also study some law.
There is Physics involved in the study of Environmental Science and Structures (mechanics).
You'll study human anatomy (biology) when you do Ergonomics, which is a branch of design dealing with working environment.
You'll also study some history - History of Architecture, which some unis offer as electives.
Other subjects which can be relevant are Psychology, Geology, Management and Photography.

This is the interesting thing about studying Architecture - the variety of subjects you deal with is just unbeatable.
Having said that, the two subjects that are the most important are still - Design and Construction.

Added on September 2, 2010, 10:35 pm
QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Sep 2 2010, 10:05 PM)
Ivy League Universities are not UK unis ^^"
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OK, the UK equivalent of the Ivy League unis. wink.gif

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