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 Turtles, Terrapins and Tortoises V3, Shell reptiles please enter here...

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post Feb 1 2008, 12:05 PM

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Quite a useful article

Should I give my Tortoise a Bath?
from Tortoise Trust web site (the site has been down for a while)

People seem to have many different ideas regarding "outside" care for a healthy tortoise, that is, the part that he lives in!

One thought is that since turtles are "wild" animals, they needn't be bathed. Exactly the opposite is true.

Another misconception is preparations of some type (many of which are commercial) are recommended, to be placed on the shell, to "give it nutrients" and make it shiny. Many, if not most of these products, are potentially harmful.

Both the carapace and the plastron of a tortoise or turtle is comprised of living tissue. It needs oxygen and exposure to sunlight to keep healthy.

The build-up of soils, waxes, oils, or other preparations, is actually harmful to a tortoise's shell. The keratin and bony layers contain millions of microscopic pores, and things such as the products mentioned actually clog the pores, causing problems.

It is perfectly safe to give your chelonian friend a bath, in fact he/she might actually like it!

All one needs is a toothbrush, a tub of some sort large enough to accommodate the tortoises, and tepid water, no deeper than is necessary to cover the entire plastron, and a few centimetres of the carapace.

Allow your tortoise awhile to rehydrate itself, usually 15 to 20 minutes, then replace the water. Often, tortoises will often take advantage of this time to replace their water stores, voiding the old, and replacing it with fresh.

Take the toothbrush and gently brush the entire carapace, being particularly attentive to any areas of build up, between the scutes, and beneath the carapace as well, to include all areas above the head, surrounding the legs, and around the tail.

Repeat the same for legs, tail, and neck. Be careful of any areas not covered with scales, as these areas can be more sensitive.

Repeat the same procedure with the plastron, paying careful attention that all dirt is removed from between the scutes.

Finally, rinse well. DO NOT use any type of detergent, shampoo, or other product unless recommended by your veterinarian. Some of these products, while safe for dogs, cats, or people, can be potentially harmful, and sometimes even fatal to turtles.

Turtles and terrapins, even though most always in water, appreciate a shell cleaning on occasion as well. Algae, shedding skin, and normal peeling of the scutes in paper-thin fragments can all be removed from the turtle, allowing for healthier shell growth.

After your turtle is clean and dry, if healthy and on a good diet, should have a shell which shines all by itself. No additional treatment should be necessary.

This procedure gives the owner an excellent opportunity to examine the animal in detail for any problems, such as injuries, shell rot, or abrasions.

Regular, monthly cleaning and inspection make for a healthier, happier turtle, with less chance of potential for skin or shell problems.
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post Feb 1 2008, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(dai86 @ Feb 1 2008, 01:44 PM)
i gave my tortie bath when i feel he is dirty, since all the poo stick under his shell. but will choose the day where the sun is a little hot. after cleaning will let him have a sunbath to let him dry.......

but buy 2 is very expensive lah. huh.... anyone want to buy together with me ah? hehe.... (i think i will choose leopard lah...) tat seller offer me rm5++ for a 4 inch lol... u guys think tat price ok ah?

by the way, did u guys give those 'worm medicine' to ur tortoise??
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RM5++ for 4 inch... wow seems cheap

In Pets Safari they are selling leopards (2inch+) at RM500

If you can afford RM5++, why not save more and buy Radiata smile.gif

I think if want buy can start buying now, after March or when actions are being taken, pet shops will not sell it liao
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post Feb 1 2008, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(dai86 @ Feb 1 2008, 02:08 PM)
the person who sell to me is not a petshop lol. is a trader i think. i dun like radiated, cos it's pattern seems like star's one. haha... and radiated is so expensive. haha... scared i can't handle it. but leopard can easily adapt to enviroment. haha... (readed from chelonia.net) and i think 4 inch radiated will cost me about rm15++ right?? is 3 times the laopard price. haha...
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In Malaysia, I think 4 inch radiated can range from RM2200 to RM2900

But check out the price for radiata at other countries (I think the price is in US currency). These are new adverts

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Some old news but worth reading. So beware malaysians for posting out their tortoise for sale in the internet

Indictment charges crime of Illegal Commercialization of Wildlife
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2004/dec/dec23a_04.html

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post Feb 1 2008, 04:15 PM

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Ok, this news is quite fresh

Illegal pet trade threatens freshwater turtles and tortoises
http://www.wwf.org.my/index.cfm?uNewsID=5200
08 Jan 2008

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post Feb 1 2008, 08:17 PM

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OMG... pyramid can be quite bad sad.gif
http://tortues-terrestres.forumactif.com/a...ille-t27879.htm

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http://tortues-terrestres.forumactif.com/a...inee-t15786.htm

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post Feb 1 2008, 10:00 PM

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Leopard also can suffer from pyramid

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Taken from: http://tortues-terrestres.forumactif.com/a...e-t14289-15.htm
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post Feb 2 2008, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Feb 2 2008, 08:36 AM)
uzairi: take lots of pictures from today's gathering. i'll be watching, from somewhere  wink.gif

and all you guys are welcomed to drop by. the more, the merrier.

venue : Ikano McD
time    :  5pm
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I'm around the area at that time. What is the gathering all about?
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post Feb 2 2008, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Feb 2 2008, 09:50 AM)
many animal lovers (and posers) would be there

but please don't bring furkids, the venue is a restaurant.

i think mamba and rafiqos will bring their human pet  tongue.gif
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post Feb 2 2008, 07:45 PM

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Yalor... I think March onwards harder to buy tortoise liao

If enforcer caught someone and slam him with big summon... that will cause chain effect and all other traders will be scared to sell
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post Feb 2 2008, 09:12 PM

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I hope there is way to let us apply for license soon. At least that will not make our tortoises illegal immigrant. hehe
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 3 2008, 06:05 PM)
New member reporting in. Just got a pair of star tortoise today. Tried my best to read previous version and post but too much  rclxub.gif

Hope I can get advise from all you experts.

My first question, my ST sleeps a lot during the afternoon. Is that normal ?
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Welcome here smile.gif

Where did you bought your stars? Any photos to upload rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(inexsis @ Feb 3 2008, 09:08 PM)
u need basking lamp.......
very2 important
anyone here knows how to contact dai86 ?
h/p number mayb ? urgent !!!!!
need to buy that ST  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Wah so fast people go rush to buy tortoises ah

If you are looking for Star Tortoise

88 Pets Mart got around 4 to 5 2inch stars. Quite good looking. They placed 2 at the downstairs counter and a few more at upstairs

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Tel: 603 - 7805 4478 / 79
Fax: 603 - 7806 2278
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QUOTE(inexsis @ Feb 3 2008, 09:49 PM)
been there.....no stock
i need 3inch n above one !!!!!!!!  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
dai86~~~~ where are u~~~~ rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
that light only giv 1 type of uv....u torts need both uva/uvb light....
so u need basking lamp tooo.....
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No stock? So fast? I just went 2 weeks ago

Wow... Either ppl sapu all or they have kept it for later
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 3 2008, 09:54 PM)
Can the normal tungsten bulb be a basking lamp ?
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Is your normal bulb hot?

I use these which can be bought at Pet Safari (Ikano)

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post Feb 4 2008, 10:41 AM

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Got someone selling a star tortoise at the garage sale
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...494&hl=tortoise
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post Feb 4 2008, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:24 AM)
wow everyone is sapu star tortoise now lol...

anyway, today i went to 88 Pets Mart and saw only left 2 more than 3 inches star at upstairs and 2 smaller one at counter there, one of the 3 inches has sticker on it so i assume that it's reserved already. other than that i saw 2 russian tortoise and another 2 dunno what spider tortoise upstairs, and also 2 pig nose turtle at counter there.

btw may i know in Ikano still got star or not? last time i went there around 2-3 months ago there got quite a lot of stars.
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At first I wanted to buy the Star from there cause it all looked healthy and good

But after looking further, I notice that their shell colour is not too bright. A bit dull and faded

QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 4 2008, 11:00 AM)
wah lau ... 2 inch star for RM 200 !!
that's 100% more than i paid for. What's the market price actually? I bought my as an impulse buy so i didn't do much survey.
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RM200 for 2inch is definately expensive

Around RM100 to RM130 should be ok
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post Feb 4 2008, 12:13 PM

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sayasebuk,

Wow, I just checked our pets album and was amazed how your tortoises shell recovered

Good job man smile.gif
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QUOTE(inexsis @ Feb 4 2008, 06:09 PM)
waaaaaaaaaaaa.............. i juz came back from Selayang baru....... Juz bought my new pair of Stair Tortoise !!!!!!!!!!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
i bought it from the petshop that dai86 also bought from....... toooo far.........but worthy brows.gif  brows.gif
can sumone translate the vege name that gud for Torts....only 1 i know...sawi....others...never heard it before tongue.gif
if RNS...whats the medicine i should use to cure them ?
waaaaaaaa...........soooo excited  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
finnally !!!!!!!!! doh.gif
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Still got how many stars left? Is the left overs good?

What other tortoises do they have?

Edit: Post some PHOTOOOOSSS smile.gif

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