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 Jan 26 2008, 09:08 PM
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but i pump 210kpa front and 200kpa back
the result is front tyre wear out so quickly, back tyre still got the "fur" u know the bulu like brand new... :S Added on January 26, 2008, 9:20 pmbtw, can u tell me if the F 21 turtle wax is abrasive or like normal wax? This post has been edited by PureGeek: Jan 26 2008, 09:20 PM |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:43 PM
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which part of the tyre wear out? middle or side?
Added on January 26, 2008, 9:50 pmPurpose of Polishing The purpose of polishing is to remove contamination, swirls, scratches and other imperfections from the paint. In contrast to the clay, which removes contamination from the surface of the paint, polishes penetrate the clearcoat or the paint itself on single stage paint. Polishes are classified based on how abrasive they are. Rubbing Compound will remove the heavy scratches and oxidation. It can be compared to a fine sandpaper. Polish is used to remove light oxidation and fine scratches. It can also be used to remove light imperfections such as swirl marks or water spots. Pre-wax cleaner is also a polish. It is used prior to waxing to remove very light contamination and dirt. Glaze is the finest polish. It does not remove the imperfections but has the power to enhance surface gloss. There are other products such as a "buff and wax" which contain a high level of cleaner and U.V. protectant or carnuba, producing a polish and a protect affect. Purpose of Waxing Waxing your car is the ultimate form of protecting your automobile's finish. Wax comes in many forms like cream, paste, liquid, etc. Many waxes contain carnuba which contains a high amount of fatty acids. This fatty acid creates a solid layer between the paint and the outside world which protects it, and gives it a shiny finish. The best form of waxing your car is using a synthetic wax. Synthetic wax contains man made U.V. inhibitors like the ones used in sunscreen to protect your skin (However they are stronger for obvious reasons). Synthetic waxes commonly mix low amounts of cleaners with high amounts of U.V. inhibitors to create the same protective layer on your car that carnuba does. There are various products advertising a "wash and wax" in the same use. They are a thin liquid that advise you to wash your car and that you will not have to apply a hand wax. Most of these products contain petroleum distilates that only produce a brief shine that imitates the effect of a carnuba or synthetic wax, and will soon attract dirt. Purpose of using Clay Bar Clay is a mixture of clay base and various abrasives. Clay along with a clay lubricant is used to remove paint contamination. Road grime, tar, bugs, rust, tree sap and even paint over spray can be removed with a clay bar. Clay bars differ in color and density but what is most important, type and amount of abrasive particles they contain. Claying does not remove the clear coat of the paint but can cause marring or dullness if used incorrectly. When using a clay bar it is important to use sufficient lubrication. It takes a few passes of clay to feel the difference on the surface of the paint. To evaluate the effectiveness of claying dry the area and assess the paint and the bar. The paint should become slick to touch. The clay bar used should be turning gray. If the clay bar is dropped it must be discarded. Check often for any large particles on the clay bar as you might unknowingly scratch the paint when claying. Claying does not replace polishing. It is a process that should be used before polishing compound is used. Claying should be used once or twice a year. This post has been edited by kevinlim001: Jan 26 2008, 09:53 PM |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(camel90 @ Jan 26 2008, 09:23 PM) rare? haiz...theres high possibility the price will be sky high? slightly higher than normal 175/70-13 tire le~  QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jan 26 2008, 10:43 PM) which part of the tyre wear out? middle or side? usually in da middle since 2 much pressure |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Jan 26 2008, 06:40 PM) paint is waterproof dude it would be nice if u can show me some more detail with source regarding to cutting agentsplease get your facts right wax n polish are different that much, you have got it right wax sticks to the paint...but there is no chemical reaction so it can wear off easier it creates a slippery coating on the paint so that dirt cant stick so easily (certain air borne dirt like smog does react with the paint if it is allowed to be in contact with the paint over long durations) polish on the other hand (most of them these days) actually bond with the paint so the upper layer (top few molecules) of paint is actually not purely paint it is an alloy (if you will) of the paint and the chemicals in the polish this (depending on what the polish is designed to do) can have varying effects on the paint surface among the effects are: - to create a slippery layer (same function as wax) - to create a UV resistant layer to reduce UV damage and thus prolong paint life - to harden the surface of the paint to make it more resistant to nicks and fine scratches many polishes (i'd go so far as to say 'most') these days are non-abrasive unless stated for old paint, u r refering to cutting agents these are meant to remove the layer of dead paint once the layer of dead paint is removed, one should not continue to these cutting agents one should switch to a good silicone polish which will help to preserve the newly exposed layer of good paint |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jan 26 2008, 09:50 PM) slightly higher than normal 175/70-13 tire le~ the recommended from manufacturer for us is 210 front and 200 back woh.. u got any suggestion?usually in da middle since 2 much pressure |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:55 PM
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anyone use b4 or know about this product called F 21 car polish brand name is turtle wax... i currently used it on my new LMST... i worried it removed the original factory wax..
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Jan 26 2008, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 26 2008, 03:25 PM) i begin to like my LMST saga... from all angle... so sporty man like a sports car and the skirtings are just beauty QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 26 2008, 03:55 PM) i thought u like it only u buy??... u buy adi only u like ahh??.. no o. my old UK spec iswara hv problem oledi so ma trade in to buy new LMST lo. not even see LMST oledi ordered. after 1 week onli go see the car. ^^ after install the gauge onli i know i always over press the pedal. but something i not really understand. when 1 start at 1st gear. press pedal slowly. the gauge show decreasing near to 5hg then increase. y this happen? now like new driving learning driving. aikssss |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 26 2008, 09:08 PM) but i pump 210kpa front and 200kpa back the result is front tyre wear out so quickly, back tyre still got the "fur" u know the bulu like brand new... :S Added on January 26, 2008, 9:20 pmbtw, can u tell me if the F 21 turtle wax is abrasive or like normal wax?  is this the one u r using? Car Polish New nanotechnology formula provides a molecular bond of synthetic polymers to provide unsurpassed protection against UVA/UVB rays and other environmental contaminants. Product Benefits * Blend of urethane polymers fills-in light surface scratches and swirl marks to provide a deep, rich, high gloss shine. * One application lasts an entire year. * Safe for all finishes. SKUs T-26R 14 oz. Paste T-27R 20 oz. Liquid |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:57 PM
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my volt reading is 14 when engine is idle. something when air-con kick in it will drop to 13 then slowly back to 14 my vacuum reading sometime very wierd. when on air-con sometime is 16-17. sometime is 20-22. both is when air-con is on. This post has been edited by wkho555: Jan 26 2008, 10:00 PM |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 26 2008, 09:55 PM) anyone use b4 or know about this product called F 21 car polish brand name is turtle wax... i currently used it on my new LMST... i worried it removed the original factory wax.. factory normally wont wax for unless u r buying those sport car... even they polish in proton case... the car will be leave outside for all weather so the wax will gone also |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(ben_ang @ Jan 26 2008, 12:54 PM) any idea how much trade in value 2 a 3yrs+ LMST? hehe.. thnking of switching 2 new saga.. wahahahahaha... the antenna selling rm25 at accessories shop.n d*mn, the antenna of LMST cost abt RM45 2 replace.. mine 1 got stolen.. Added on January 26, 2008, 10:00 pm QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Jan 26 2008, 02:26 PM) hey guys need help here I was quoted RM50 for changing all 4 absorbers. Alignment should be at least rm25 i think...how much would b the workmanship cost for changing all 4 absorber + alignment?? i mean on average basis.. thx guys This post has been edited by blackpc: Jan 26 2008, 10:00 PM |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:01 PM
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i saw that in the internet website edi, but the F21 doesnt say in the label whether it is abrasive or not liao
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Jan 26 2008, 10:03 PM
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singchaii i think this can answer a few of ur queries
http://www.matey-matey.com/auto-detailing.shtml u go and take a lot but if u use all the product shown i think at least RM300 to RM500 |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jan 26 2008, 09:57 PM) my volt reading is 14 when engine is idle. something when air-con kick in it will drop to 13 then slowly back to 14 my vacuum reading sometime very wierd. when on air-con sometime is 16-17. sometime is 20-22. both is when air-con is on. |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 26 2008, 09:55 PM) anyone use b4 or know about this product called F 21 car polish brand name is turtle wax... i currently used it on my new LMST... i worried it removed the original factory wax.. I've been using it for the past 3 years. Since it's a polisher, I only use it every six month. I can say I'm quite impressed with the product. U can see the shine even after a 'cincai' polishing job.  |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jan 26 2008, 10:51 PM) the recommended from manufacturer for us is 210 front and 200 back woh.. u got any suggestion? actually it's up 2 u 1 lo~i put higher cuz better fc ma~ but a bit bumpy la,as i seldom pumps air 2 it~ hahahahaa~ |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jan 26 2008, 09:56 PM) after install the gauge onli i know i always over press the pedal. but something i not really understand. when 1 start at 1st gear. press pedal slowly. the gauge show decreasing near to 5hg then increase. y this happen? now like new driving learning driving. aikssss what wrong with over press the pedal?.. u mean over revving or?.. is it over pressing pedal can eat more fuel |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jan 26 2008, 10:04 PM) wah nice exhaust sound super turbo muffler  Added on January 26, 2008, 10:09 pm QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 26 2008, 10:06 PM) what wrong with over press the pedal?.. u mean over revving or?.. is it over pressing pedal can eat more fuel over press ma eat more fuel but less power. not over rev. the car is moving but u dun nid to pedal to heavy. over press onli consume more fuel but power still the same.This post has been edited by wkho555: Jan 26 2008, 10:09 PM |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 26 2008, 10:06 PM) what wrong with over press the pedal?.. u mean over revving or?.. is it over pressing pedal can eat more fuel ya they read it thru the gauge they had install so they control their leg but the meter readingAdded on January 26, 2008, 10:15 pm QUOTE(cheeann @ Jan 26 2008, 10:06 PM) actually it's up 2 u 1 lo~ ya i agree with u..i put higher cuz better fc ma~ but a bit bumpy la,as i seldom pumps air 2 it~ hahahahaa~ if 210 and 200 very bumpy so i normally so 200 to 190 as i seldom fetch ppl. so kinda ok still got a bit bumpy This post has been edited by kevinlim001: Jan 26 2008, 10:15 PM |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jan 26 2008, 10:14 PM) ya they read it thru the gauge they had install so they control their leg but the meter reading 200-190 is 34 or 35? blur.....Added on January 26, 2008, 10:15 pm ya i agree with u.. if 210 and 200 very bumpy so i normally so 200 to 190 as i seldom fetch ppl. so kinda ok still got a bit bumpy |
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