hatchback = jazz
sedan = city

sure u looked at the correct picture??

i dont think the new city will be like gen2 where the rear windscreen is opened together with the back boot.
it's a sedan, more like persona..

put in the pedal shift also.. then city will be the most wanted in the 80-90k range..
i think it will be priced slightly above vios.. probably starts with 80k as basic model and tops at 90+ k for full spec.

haha
price doesnt determine the grade, if proton priced the saga at 60k, it doesnt make its grade any higher..
if they sell it at vios price, u can expect to see vios sales go down the drain..
for the time being, based on the info and rumours, vios is no match for this new city, except maybe price..

in view of the global rising fuel price, they might intro the 1.3 ivtec.. price it side by side with the vios J spec..

it might just happen..
speculating that the city will probably start at around 80k with the 1.3 ivtec and max at around 95k for the full spec..
my dad booked civic, then considered downgrading to new city, SA says it'll cost around 90k, but in the end decided to get civic again.. but dunno the civic that my dad will receive in sept/oct will be face lifted version or not..

if it's 65k, it'll eat into the pie of proton cars.. dun think that will happen.. if really beyond expectation, it'll only go to the 70k region, dun think will go to 60k region.. sounds too good to be true.. haha..

65k for a honda bike, then paklah say yes..

everything increase except salary..the car prices are increasing gen after gen..
24 years ago, my dad could get a brand new 3rd gen civic for less than 30k.. now at 8th gen it cost 120k..
if malaysia's economy dont get any better in future, i think by 11th or 12 gen, a brand new civic could probably hit 200k..

back to the topic, i think new city will be in 85-95k after seeing the CBU jazz price..

define new technology..
the sentra engine does have their own version of VVT, called the VTC..
and HP is not everything, it depends on how they tune the engine..

quoted from wikipedia



dont misunderstand, i'm not a fan of nissan..
have been driving 3 generations of civic, and i love honda..

are u buying a car or buying a brand?
WYPIWYG lah.... compare to something of similar spec or price range lah, if u wanna compare the kosong vios with new city, then i think it wont be a fair comparison.. why dun u compare an entry level kosong vios 70k to entry level BLM then? they are in same segment also rite?

base model difference would be the accesories trim, i believe the engine and the transmission of all city model would be the same, minus the paddle shifter.. that alone is a good enough reason to justify the price difference, again, WYPIWYG..
i think the new city would be a much better upgrade from previous model compared to vios, just new skin with old mechanicals.. just buy what u think it's best for u..

the 1.5l ivtec combined with the 5speed AT, could potentially be a much more fuel efficient car than vios..

replace kosong vios with J spec, understand now?
i'm just merely asking him to compare something of the similar price range, and said that the engine+transmission is enough to justify the price difference. WHAT YOU PAY IS WHAT YOU GET, as simple as that.
did i mentioned anything bout level or class?

i'll reserve my comments then till the spec is out in malaysia..
i might have expected too much, but based on the current city in malaysia, there's only 2 trims, and the safety features are not compromised in either 1, so naturally i would have expected all the safety features to be present in new gen. Honda would be stupid to go backward, unless the price is really competitive as the vios J spec.
anyway, the vios J spec are somewhat compromised also, with the absent of SRS airbag.

why not fork out another few extra k for a 1.8 civic then? lol..
all the "extra k" opinions will be never ending stories, later someone else will suggest u to top another 10k on top of your extra"10-20k" for a better car.

i think mrs is not in league with s2000, it's more in the same range as MX5.

your wish could probably come true.. lol...

i personally just felt that what you pay is what u get, if your budget is only around the price of vios range, then get a vios, u pay less for the older design + less appealing look(personal) and the same old mechanicals from the old vios(fact).
If u have the budget for city, then buy the city, the extra u're paying are for the newer design + better look(personal opinion), and better engine + transmission(fact).
in the end, whichever car u chose, it doesnt really matter if vios sells better or city sells better rite?
world economy going down the drain will affect the car sales in general, which i dont think anybrand or any model can escape.
you can "request" all you want, but i think having the new city to be priced similar like the vios is most unlikely to happen, judging based on the new jazz price. so just get what u can afford, u cant expect everything to be in your favour rite? want cheap and good? go stay in other country loh, our Gov plays a part in our car price also
So whats the point arguing over whether city is priced skyhigh or vios is priced reasonably? what is the "reasonable" price and based on what it is set? based on competitor price? So what if tomorrow another japanese brand introduces another same segment car in the price range of RM50-60k? then u "request" toyota and honda to lower the price to be "reasonable"?

no hard feelings k.. i'm just merely voicing out what i think, nobody needs to agree with me..

comparing the old honda jazz price and yaris price, which is more expensive?
i can only found yaris price now, honda page has already been updated with new jazz price which ranges from 104k to 109k.
for the older gen, i saw more jazz on road compared to yaris... new gen have to wait and see...

This post has been edited by kevin613: Oct 9 2008, 12:25 AM