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post Oct 18 2018, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Oct 17 2018, 10:33 PM)
Can share which property? Must be higher end properties as those got dip in price ... normal condo around 500k+... got dip but sure not until 10% or more ...
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To be honest with you, there are several projects in Penang,

Luxury or Non Luxury.

Developer Packaged the project up to 20-25% above the market price, and giving away rebates like GRR (Guarantee Return Rate).

Examples such as,

The Maven, Was selling at RM5xxk for a Landed Town House in Balik Pulau but was priced at RM6xxk-7xxk by Developer by introducing such GRR rate.
Arte S, Was selling at RM7xxk for Service Apartment @ Gelugor Area but was priced at RM1mil onwards by Developer with 3 years Guarantee Return Rate.

So hence, you have to be very careful when you purchase a property, not to look at something overpriced and gets attracted by freebies.
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post Oct 18 2018, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(gld998 @ Oct 17 2018, 09:13 PM)
JB Side, they tried and most of it failed...  whistling.gif

Penang is dying. Stagnant Pay for the pass decade. Alot of my frends are leaving Penang for KL or Singapore.
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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Oct 17 2018, 09:33 PM)
Stagnant pay is a Malaysia wide problem.. not confined to pg also.

And pg people a lot of rich ppl due to the recent property boom
... U know lah pg ppl like to hoard properties one
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Stagnant Pay because Stagnant Productivity.

People in Penang wants to work less, gets more money, earns the most benefit from the company but work Least.

For people that works really hard, they are well-paid.
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post Oct 18 2018, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Oct 17 2018, 09:06 PM)
Fyi, I'm not a pgite

And u don't understand what I'm saying... I'm saying If Penang with all its factories and top tourist place has no real economy, then 95% of Malaysia also have no real economy and will fail.. too

I'm not even debating kl and Penang. What about JB? 50% of people work in SG, without SG, economy confirm collapse... But i won't be pretentious and say JB don't have real economy..
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Penang has got 2 industrial zones, in Island and Mainland.

Medical Tourism and Tourism are the contribution factor as well.

If you happens to go mainland, there will be plantation, agriculture
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post Oct 18 2018, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(gld998 @ Oct 17 2018, 08:02 PM)
U know the meaning of diversification? Dude your method abit salah, its praying for capital gain. I have quite alot property in penang.
Abit regret, should have invested in KL instead.
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well that's why maybe you invest salah, enter high price then difficult to exit, it's always like that man.

everything is basically the same. enter betul = make money, enter salah price/timing = lose money.

but we are talking as awhole of the real estate economy
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post Oct 18 2018, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 04:30 PM)
No need to be that complicated.

Earlier you just said nobody's know about mydeposit and that is not gov subsidy.

Earlier you just said Rm 550 psf in Sg Ara is luxury segment for that area.
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Well, when something which we considered the "minority" or has the least "impact" in the market segment. we called it "Nobody knows about it".

We all know the justification of a Big picture doesnt comes with a minority transaction which is not even 0.1% in the segment.

Can you get something higher than 550 psf in Sg Ara? well if its not than it's considered Luxury Segment.
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post Oct 18 2018, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 04:43 PM)
That's call mark up.

When other projects in Penang hotspots cant sell well, why need to go so far for Balik Pulau?

When other residential title condos in Penang can't sell well, why need to go for Serviced Residences with Commercial Title?

What makes you think the GRR can be sustained after developer hands off after 3 years.

Is there locals to pay for Rm 3500 at that location deemed not expatriate choice?

Buying below market value sub sales is the safer way if cash out a sum if one of financial objective.
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That's exactly what I'm trying to say, that's how the failure happens and developer actually lured consumers to buy overpriced property.

we all know it's called mark -up, but many are careless to proceed with such deals as they are not well informed and aware about it.

as simple as that.

Balik Pulau is a town suffering from negative population yearly. up to 5%.

The intention of Serviced Residences with Commercial title is designed to cater AirBnB which many development failed.

Penangites has got significant amount of raw cash that doesn't know what to do with it
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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 04:45 PM)
How do u know he or others invest salah?

BUT only know that u said last 5 years with 8% growth p.a. oh. SO correct meh?

BTW still waiting you to pull out the data from LPPEH and show us. So that we can queue to sell now.
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That's just an example, if you invest betul = profit , invest salah = lost. simple as that.

i don't believe if theres any theory that = Invest Betul = Lose Money, got such thing ?

You can just go brickz.my to do your own research. but if you want further detail and explanation, you may list your property as i can give you my assumptions based on my experiences in the property sector
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post Oct 18 2018, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 04:47 PM)
That's just your personal assumption.

It has been widely advertised in news and paper.

Limited goods of course not everyone able to get it, just like Amanah Saham.


Once it has fully subscribed then it left nothing for others. Simple as that.

Oh, if according to your concept, means if the kampung area highest price is 100 psf, then 100 psf is consdiered luxury segment?

Haha
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it's purely based on facts. For my deposit scheme and summary : https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2017/12/...ns-registration

And MyDeposit scheme is not a Major Factor, considered a very minor percentage of factor to be taken into consideration.

Well if you go to a place that has something extraordinary, such as :

Pulau Tikus average price persqft RM700-800. Moulmein Rise was selling at RM1,500

It is considered as Luxury (or else how could it be priced at such a big figure) ?
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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 04:53 PM)
invest betul = profit is just like makan = kenyang.

what's the points u wanna bring up?

i dare not adopt ur experience, simply base on confidently naive oh.

unless u help me get 8% per annum in last 5 years lo.
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well, invest not for profit then for what? for lost?

Meaning of Investment :
In general, to invest is to distribute money in the expectation of some benefit in the future – for example, investment in durable goods, in real estate by the service industry, in factories for manufacturing, in product development, and in research and development. However, this article focuses specifically on investment in financial assets.

Makan = Kenyang is not an appropriate statement. (Makan = Kenyang is for sustainability).

Invest Means, Tanam Satu Kangkung, Dapat Satu Pokok Kangkung., If KangKung Mati failed means Investment Fail.

For a greater return.

People talking about in General, you talk nonsense. if you don't understand Invest, please attend more talks and seminar bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 04:55 PM)
wow if got mydeposit link how come you claim "nobody's know about it"?

there are still aplenty of government initiatives on top of it.

do u know that KL flooded with affordable housings now?

with 500,000 units to build?
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Im not from KL and I don't comment what happens in KL. I'm not familiar with the market in KL.

What are the government initiatives? Maybe you could name it? Say something which has already Happened, not future or anything in the pipeline which considered hearsay.

500,000 units? Impressive, which location? position? price? date of launch? by whom? in how many years?

learn to speak with appropriate data.

oh wait.. hear say
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post Oct 18 2018, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 05:00 PM)
ya, if it is for profit and everyone's know it, no need to mention lo.

invest can also for own stay in future u know?

invest can also be tanam jagung.

invest can also be confidently naive one.
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for own stay its called inhabitant, for no greater return and solely for comfort.

my god, people like u, really waste my time explaining facts to you.

seems like you dont understand facts at all man.

i doubt you have even a property
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post Oct 18 2018, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 05:02 PM)
oh all these info are available from rumahwip + pr1ma + pp1am which is nationwide (not just covering KL but also Penang).

what more interesting will be the 8% per annum in last 5 years, and LPPEH you mentioned earlier.

wish to learn from u on that.
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RUMAWIP = KL
PR1MA = 0 In Penang Island
PP1AM = government Servant (putrajaya)

pls read properly and understand carefully, dont talk nonsense without u even know what u r saying, making a fool out of yourself.

stop being so naive man.

i've explained about the 8% earlier but if you don't understand theres no point showing you somehow.

you might dont even have a property to talk with. thats why you talk rubbish, thats all you have got
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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 05:04 PM)
circumstances will change, buying for invest now doesn't mean cannot be own stay in future.

and vice versa.

i also doubt u have property. do you have one IHC that maintain properties like me?

but having or without a property has nothing to do with a person's knowledge or to be confidently naive.

or at least a paid brickz account to pull out golden triangle condo data ?
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you're just a joke man.

Circumstances will change, why not you say the world will change.

When we talk about investment = the sole purpose is investment.

stop making yourself looking like a stupid.

you're a joke

i mean seriously , your knowledge is so premature that doesn't even know what your saying
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post Oct 18 2018, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 05:04 PM)
circumstances will change, buying for invest now doesn't mean cannot be own stay in future.

and vice versa.

i also doubt u have property. do you have one IHC that maintain properties like me?

but having or without a property has nothing to do with a person's knowledge or to be confidently naive.

or at least a paid brickz account to pull out golden triangle condo data ?
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nice way to ask for something, you dont have an account? what IHC to maintain properties?

what a joke. dont even have money to retrieve your own data and needs feeder?
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post Oct 18 2018, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 05:09 PM)
not true.

pr1ma and ppa1m have it in penang. this can be easily verified.

also i already clarified. i used IHC to manage all my properties, how about u? stuck at 70% for 3rd property onwards?

it's ok to be confidently naive, it won't harm anyway.
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well verified. so where is it? i dont see any of it?

link? facts? no facts no talk.

only jokers uses IHC to invest in properties, thats a pure joke of century.

eh wait.. i thought IHC can only loan for 60%?

joke

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 05:10 PM)
huh - you don't have and questioning people who has it?

then why assuming others don't have properties at 1st place?

mindset problem ka

or only u know how to tanam jagung with 8%
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no logic, no sense but pure joke.

doesn't even know what is investment,

makan = kenyang method.

kangkung property owner joke
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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 05:19 PM)
here you go, im kind enuf to even spoon fed this.

how about your link for LPPEH then? and also the 8% price surge in last 5 years? and golden triangle?

http://www.data.gov.my/data/en_US/dataset/...eb-d7b34544b575

https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/tag/pr1ma/

if IHC to invest is a joke, then u are biggest joke.

FYI - it is to hold residential properties for savvy investors with end goal in getting cash flows from commercial properties, so that u can buy over and over again with low capital outlay.

the real sifu in this is adrian wee and tony yap for the industry.

are they jokers to u too?
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joke again a joke, don't understand about property and talk trash here.

any of the project stated above, has been implemented or constructed? or just hear-say again?

we talk about the real actual implementation, not hearsay. there are several projects that has been converted into private.

again stop making jokes and a fool out of yourself man. IHC is long gone and unpopular and nobody even credit as it has to bear another level of difficult set of rules and regulations.

again, what does PR1MA has to do? it doesnt give any subsidy?

joke again a joke, whos adrian wee and tony yap? never heard before. giving names that nobody knows
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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 05:20 PM)
if invest = tanam jagung,

why can't makan = kenyang.

unless one don't earn enough (usually lacking knowledge, confidently naive and living in denial) and fail to make his stomach full.
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hi joker.

investment is makan = kenyang, what joke is this.

usually someone who has failed to make money from investment is as such.

makan = kenyang
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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 05:53 PM)
oh, u ignore giving data of LPPEH, 8% and golden triangle and wanna focus on this?

how u know others fail to make money

how u know others fail to buy any property

u live in their stomach and justify they don't tanam jagung but only u?
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hi. the selling price @ golden triangle back in 2013 was RM350k and soars to RM550k in year 2015 and went back to RM490k

do the maths, dont be lazy.

invest = eat to kenyang

nice joke of investment
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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 18 2018, 05:56 PM)
so how

PP1AM really for government Servant in putrajaya only ah?

no wonder u said nvr hear anything and missed so many things.

how many properties u can own without IHC then?

u so geng pay by cash?
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IHC = cannot make borrowings even it has Income statement, maximum 60% loan.

whats the advantage of using IHC? are you in 2013-2015?

didnt you aware that you are tax with 24% by Inland board of revenue just because IHC is openly declare as an investment and money making vehicle despite holding properties for more than 5 years?

what kind of joke is that man?

joke


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