Ok, I will most likely be at purchasing my 450D this Saturday. I'll probably bundle the Tamron 17-50mm and Sigma 18-200 OS with my purchase. Perhaps a Nissin Di622 flash. That's about it.

I understand not all shops has Tamron 17-50mm. Can someone advise, which shop to go to?

since no one answer me at the buying advice topic..maybe better I ask here..

mm..I want to ask for a n opinion...between Nikon D60 + 16-85 lens and Canon 450D + 24-105L IS...which has better value for money? Or should I wait for D90 (if it ever comes out) with 16-85?

... I am considering these two models cuz, the lenses are very good optically (from what I saw in slrgear.com)..the 450D + 24-105L will need me to save around USD1800..while the D60 + 16-85 will need me to save around USD1200..(and if D90 comes and prices like the D80 when it first released, it will cost me USD1800 too)..

..am thinking of a DSLR that can be further upgraded in the future to an advanced one, like D300 or 40D..don't think will go FF...and Canon new EF-S lenses are quite good optically...I won't be using the dslr for bird-photography or any type of telephoto-ing much..mostly I will use it for travel, street and indoor photography..

..noob here