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mizivincible
post Feb 15 2008, 04:51 AM

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Huargh ! Just finish lapping my proc. Damn tiring. Polish abit using autosol, still havent decide whether trying the chip out tonight or not, damn tiring and sleepy. Anyway, share share abit my new proc -

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Shiny after autosol tongue.gif

Still thinking tho whether to take out my rig tonight to oc or not, damn mahfan taking out the GeminII doh.gif
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post Feb 15 2008, 05:58 AM

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QUOTE(ongbs @ Feb 15 2008, 05:39 AM)
walau eh...that is a mirror not F3  doh.gif  tongue.gif

berapa lama u "gosok" huh?  hmm.gif
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I started at 8pm, minus dinner, surf surf lowyat.net, curi-curi watching movie,finished at 4:59am yawn.gif

I dont know why most of the guides say that removing the nickel coating needs around 45 mins - 1 hour but mine took like 3hours only started showing copper. I started with 100 grit somemore. Guess that I was too careful and slowly lap that's why took so long doh.gif

Not gonna continue my project la tonite I guess, after bathe feel like damn syiok sleeping hehe. icon_rolleyes.gif

p/s: hope to get the same figure like the previous owner drool.gif
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post Feb 15 2008, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Feb 15 2008, 06:37 AM)
SIAO !~ btw i wan to do so ! but after 1-2 years first == anyway where to get those lapping tools?how much estimation?
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Haih wanna sleep but ada phone call pulak then chatting chatting. yawn.gif

Anyway bro, haha, it really needs lotsa patience, but after you see the temp drop you will drool.gif

About lapping tool, you dont really need tools. Here's what you need -

1.Different grit of sandpaper
2.masking tape
3.piece of mirror or glass ( to mount the sandpaper on flat surface, thats why we choose glass or mirror )
4.elbow grease
5.patience
6.time
7.Autosol for superb finishing

The sandpaper I bought from 100grit,120grit,300,400,600,800,1000,1200,1500,200. RM1 each. Masking tape at rm2.50. Should be around rm10 only. Autosol you can buy and polish any metal,copper, aluminum to give fine finishing.

For certain ppl the temp drop wasnt so important, but im sure we as overclockers very very care about our temp right icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on February 15, 2008, 6:55 am
QUOTE(ongbs @ Feb 15 2008, 06:44 AM)
If you wanna SIAO as well, just go from grid 200-->800-->1200 will do, just wanna make sure the IHS is flat....
I spent about 30 to 40min with this method.

If wanna a mirror-like effect then ask bro mizivincible  tongue.gif
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Haha Abang ongbs sudah expert in lapping so take less than hour lorr. Me noobie, this is my second lapped proc only tongue.gif

Yes actually the most important thing in lapping is to make sure the surface is totally flat so that it can fully contact with heatsink thus dissipate heat better. The mirror finish is for stylish la i guess brows.gif

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post Feb 16 2008, 08:29 PM

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Hello all ! Just got my modem. I brought back all my rig back home and couldnt online pulak due to burnt modem. Anyway, not regret getting F3 at all (Guess most of F3 owner will say this too).

First few attempts with super PI 1m and 32m -

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Anyway, I can only reached that speed with the timing of 5-5-5-15-21. Tried looser cant reach 3.3ghz, after Biostar green screen my whole screen turn red dont know why. Tried tighter timing 4-4-4-12-16 and can only reach 3.2ghz only. Sifu help, what timing should I use ni, planning after this oc to 24/7 usage. Tonight wanna try beyond 3.5ghz icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Feb 16 2008, 08:58 PM

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Yerp, I was also thinking the same.

Yesterday with 4-4-4-12, 667 divider, I get 1000mhz ++ freq at 3.2ghz with 2.15vdimm. Note : Im using OCZ SLi Edition 4gb kit.

But the poison is strong, thinking to try at more than 3.5 before settle down hehehe.
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post Feb 16 2008, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Feb 16 2008, 09:29 PM)
cooling is the key to break through 3.6GHz  icon_rolleyes.gif
For me i manage to do that air cond + air cooling
anyway, i think your proc can do 3.6GHz with 1.5Xv brows.gif

eidted: hehe, i saw my ss in your desktop  brows.gif
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Hahaha kantoi pulak with you. Indeed that's your sc, paiseh liao blush.gif blush.gif

I take few of the ss to refer, my inspiration flex.gif

Anyway trying out 3.6 after this, bro dblooi, what timing should I use ? As for the temp I'll monitor it, kinda glad my GeminII still doing the job, after lapping the F3 at 1.5v load at 47' max. Currently r.unning on naked system. Need advise please please icon_question.gif
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post Feb 16 2008, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(@meno @ Feb 16 2008, 10:32 PM)
@-pws-

My specs:
AMD 3800+ X2 F3 | @meno | Abit AN9 32x | Team Value Ram | 1044 | 5-5-5-15-21 | Thermalright IFX-14

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@mzinvincible, wat mobo you running on?
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Biostar TA690G icon_rolleyes.gif

Have your proc hit the wall ? You havent pump vcore right ? Should can get higher speed.

And, is stock vcore at 1.16v only ? Usually when I wanna start OC I'll straight pump +0.100v then start pushing.
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post Feb 16 2008, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Feb 16 2008, 11:05 PM)
Where is your SPI 32M or Orthos?? icon_rolleyes.gif

I gonna compile it later late at night.  wink.gif

-pWs-
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Alamak, I wanna try at 3.6 before submit the result can I abang -pWs- ? Hopefully I can, if not just settle down with 3.5...
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post Feb 16 2008, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Feb 16 2008, 11:07 PM)
timing for ram?  hmm.gif
which divider you will be using?
if u plan to use 667 divider at 10x multiplier
at 3.6GHz, your ram will be oced to 1200MHz  brows.gif
actually that's quite high ,
have you try that speed b4 with your ram?
you can use 533 divider also.
3600/8 = 450 , ram oc to 900Mhz in that case
ram timings, it's really depend on the user himself.
i cannot predict much for you as i'm not using that ram.  notworthy.gif
can try CL 4 if you are going to use 533 divider  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks. i never touched 1200mhz before. The highest is 1066mhz. I think I'll use 533 divider then. CL4 ? Will try with 4-4-4-5-11 then. 900mhz should be nice paired with 3.6 (if achievable la) haha.

Anyway, issit the stock speed only uses 1.16v ? mine is like that one. If wanna start oc I straight pump until 1.26v.


Added on February 16, 2008, 11:26 pm
QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 16 2008, 11:21 PM)
But temp above 55C for load kinda too high for me sweat.gif

I prefer to keep HTL below 1000MHz, don't feel like exceeding it. A bit maybe acceptable tongue.gif
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Yours will never touch 55c la got super fast fans hahaha sign0014.gif

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post Feb 16 2008, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Feb 16 2008, 11:29 PM)
VID for you proc is 1.2v
your mobo has voltage drop issue  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I see, because I read last time about the voltage drop, and I thought it was abit only, didnt expect that much.

Edited : Aside from running naked system, I add up another table fan blowing towards my system. Hope this helps since db said cooling is the key smile.gif

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post Feb 17 2008, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Feb 17 2008, 12:28 AM)
From my experience , air cooling/water cooling itself is not efficient enough for 3.6GHz
i always fail to boot into windows due to high temp.
min requirement is air cond + air cooling, 
but that don't work for 3.7GHz above..
3.7GHz above i need water cooler + ais in order to boot into windows icon_rolleyes.gif
btw are you using TA690G?
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Ic, got it. And my hall aircond the remote got problem pulak, if not can switch on doh.gif

Yes I am using TA690G. Any good tips to share sifu brows.gif ?

Just now with the tight timing at 2.8ghz dont know why stucked at windows loading there. I reset and now try with 4-4-4-12-16, trfc changed to 195 and mal to 10. Start pushing again.
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post Feb 17 2008, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Feb 17 2008, 12:42 AM)
what's the ram chipset of your ram?  hmm.gif
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This is SS from me, hope it helps  icon_rolleyes.gif
From SS shown by bro sempronic previously,
your proc is on par v mine  brows.gif
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Bro DB, im not really sure what is the chipset of my ram. How to determine the chipset ? this is my ram - http://guru3d.com/article/memory/476/1

And thanks for the ss. Sure it helps alot.

p/s : proc is on par but not the owner hehehe, I still need to learn alot, I mean alot from you guys.
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post Feb 17 2008, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Feb 17 2008, 01:09 AM)
The easiest way is take off the heatspreader and take a look,
in condition the ram chipset is not relabeled.
If it's relabeled , then you need to look at the side of the ram chipset to find out the orientation of the metal dots ( trust me, this is hard  sweat.gif )

here's an example, how to find out D9 ram chipset without looking at the label
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But i don't think D9GMH, D9GKX and D9GCT come in 2GB set  hmm.gif 

Also, take off the heatspreader might lead you to warranty void.
In that case, the only thing you can do is try to google search for its chipset
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Yeah that's the only way I know but taking out the heatspreader sweat.gif Just got it few days. After few loop of google also didnt find any. Will try to look harder.

Edited : with 4-4-4-12-16 at 2.8 already BSOD. Now trying with other timing as well. Do I need to change the trfc too ?

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post Feb 17 2008, 01:25 PM

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Now my system doesnt boot. I dont know what's the problem.

Reset CMOS - failed.
Install only one stick of ram - failed.
Dissemble all hardwares and put it back - failed.
Install and uninstall processor - failed.

Now I dont know what to do. Both of the red LED on TA690G dont show anything.
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post Feb 17 2008, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Feb 17 2008, 01:28 PM)
any spare chip to boot with?  smile.gif
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Yeah almost forgot. Will use my 4000+.

Mangkok Ayon - Nope. Nothing, after switch on the power - cooler running, graphic card running, but no boot at all.
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post Feb 17 2008, 01:50 PM

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Update : Tried with other proc, and same thing happens - which is nothing happens. Issit because of mobo ? If it does I'll go LYP and claim for warranty then. But RMA process should be damn long cry.gif

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post Feb 17 2008, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Feb 17 2008, 02:00 PM)
contact alphamatic  icon_rolleyes.gif
i settled my rma in one day.

http://www.alphamatic.com.my/contactus.asp
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Really ? Are they replacing new mobo for you ? And would you say its the mobo the culprit bro ?

When I switch on -

cooler fans running
gc running
no red LED (both)

Tried with other proc, still same
Swap ram slot, same
Dissemble all parts and install back, fail too.

This is symptom of ?

EDITED : Went thru Alphamatic website - But, what its related to Biostar product bro DB ?

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post Feb 17 2008, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 17 2008, 02:17 PM)
ok bro..now u got the same problem with me..no boot at all rite?is the power led keep on flashing?
the mobo led show u something or not?ive tried reassemble and every thing..but still cant..try with another proc,still cant..change the ram,still cant..seems like my mobo keep restarting..hate it..
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The power LED doesnt lit at all (both red led) and no nothing. The thing is my gc and cooler are running. Tried everything still cant. Now I only suspect mobo problem. No boot at all. Dang icon_question.gif


Added on February 17, 2008, 2:33 pm
QUOTE(-pWs- @ Feb 17 2008, 02:17 PM)
Ermm...Alphamatics is the supplier of DFI n Biostar I think. wink.gif

-pWs-
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Owh rilly ? If they can RMA in one day like bro db said then should be solution ! Still waiting for db confirmation.


Added on February 17, 2008, 2:34 pm
QUOTE(Amedion @ Feb 17 2008, 02:05 PM)
Oh.. My mobo also overvolts by itself..

Current voltage is 1.6v .. I guess my motherboard cannot support more than 280HTT.. Fail in Orthos..

Want to find TA690 already lar..  sweat.gif


Added on February 17, 2008, 2:07 pmTake out battery and leave it for 3 minutes then try again?
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Sure bro, will try now while having breakfast. Hungry sweat.gif

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