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TSaaltong
post Jan 17 2008, 11:27 AM, updated 18y ago

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Not sure this is true or not.
Someone got banned for 3hours and all his BG gears being striped off for being caught AFK to many time in BG.
But gears that are bought with Arena points are left untouched.
below is the reply he got from Blizzard.

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This account has recently been identified as being involved in actions deemed inappropriate for the World of Warcraft. This conclusion was reached based on the results of a thorough investigation and therefore, the following account action has been issued:

Account Name: **************

Account Action: 3 Hour Suspension
Offense: PvP Arena/Battleground Exploitation.
Details: Exploitation of PvP Battlegrounds and the honor system. This may include, but is not limited to the following:

*Use of add-ons, "mods", external hardware, or any unapproved third party software to automate gameplay.
*Abuse of game mechanics or "bugs".
*Any behavior that has been found to be outside the intent of these Player versus Player matches.

This action has been taken in accordance with the World of Warcraft Terms of Use (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html) and our game policies (http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20309). Any further inappropriate behavior could result in penalties ranging from a temporary suspension to account closure, and may also include loss of any rewards the exploitive character has received.

Any disputes or questions concerning the following account action can only be addressed by Account Administration. To learn more about how Account Administration is able to assist you, please visit us at http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=21505. To maintain the integrity of our investigation methods, we will be unable to disclose the specifics of our investigation methods.

Thank you for your time and for understanding our position in this matter.

Regards,

Account Administration
Blizzard Entertainment
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Finally does this mean we will no longer have people AFK in BG? thumbup.gif
Make me feel good knowing that my effort of reporitng people AFK is paying off tongue.gif


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post Jan 17 2008, 12:03 PM

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wat's the prob with premades...??
seems fine tho...
btw, reporting AFK players FTW...
im always did that... cheerz!
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post Jan 17 2008, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(CandleJack @ Jan 17 2008, 11:50 AM)
Yeah, they are already trying to stop this.
But that's only half the problem.
The other problem now is premades rclxub.gif
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getting owned by premades and crying about it makes it so satisfying.

in case you didnt know, group q'ing is legitimate.

afk botting isnt.


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i wouldnt doubt it. blizzard always maintain high level of intergrity.

and lets think logically. banning 1 guy, losing 1 customer, while the other millions of customer be happier. fair trade. sides, whats $15 from 1 customer vs $15xmillions from the other crowd?

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post Jan 17 2008, 12:36 PM

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Premades = too bad, so sad. Can't, and don't deny people the enjoyment for their time and efforts. One day, you'll be rolling over people as part of a premade and maybe..just maybe..you'll think back at it and laugh icon_rolleyes.gif

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TSaaltong
post Jan 17 2008, 12:40 PM

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Premade is legitimate.
But i wish they make it premade Vs premade. Now that would be interesting, those that won in that match really have bragging right. flex.gif


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post Jan 17 2008, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(CandleJack @ Jan 17 2008, 11:50 AM)
Yeah, they are already trying to stop this.
But that's only half the problem.
The other problem now is premades rclxub.gif
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it never was a problem. if you havent figured that out. afk botting is
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post Jan 17 2008, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(CandleJack @ Jan 17 2008, 12:43 PM)
You guys are supporting premades yet you cry about afkers??
If you're in a premade team, needless to say nobody is afk-ing.
So what's there to QQ about afkers?

If you're a solo player like me, then u got double problems.
Either ur teammates are afk and/or u're up against premades.
A match you can not win.
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I wonder if it has occurred to you that sometimes we solo queue when there is no premades available while sometimes we join a premade when there is one available?
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post Jan 17 2008, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(CandleJack @ Jan 17 2008, 12:45 PM)
P.s i'm not against premades..... just that it's not fair for random players.
There should be a way to balance things out.
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and since your on the page of crying out unfairness.

lets cry bout how its not fair that people are raping you deep down the rear with their shiny epics against your blues? or how your being attacked not with 100% hp and fully buffed to the bone.

seriously.


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QUOTE(seen @ Jan 17 2008, 12:49 PM)
I wonder if it has occurred to you that sometimes we solo queue when there is no premades available while sometimes we join a premade when there is one available?
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yea because its hard to 1-2 shot low resil noobs while doing BG dailies for EZ n' Free 12g in the pocket.

/endsarcasm

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post Jan 17 2008, 01:01 PM

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dude u're just crying over premades. Did you know you can h ave ur own premade? yes you actually can WOOW!!! imagine that. All you need to do is make more friends in game and organise one. As easy as A B C!

Gosh never knew anyone would complain about premades lolx. It's all about strategy dude. I solo into BG as well. But good leadership and good team mates in BG makes for an excellent time. Also it would be good to have a good RL and players that listen to his orders. That's just like a pre-made, almost. hehehe

also if QQ over afkers is very different over premades dude. it seems that u're against premades and are for AFKers. maybe u're one of them! O_O

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post Jan 17 2008, 01:39 PM

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PvP is not a gentlemen's fight with gentlemen's rules.

Get over it.
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post Jan 17 2008, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(Noyze @ Jan 17 2008, 01:01 PM)
dude u're just crying over premades. Did you know you can h ave ur own premade? yes you actually can WOOW!!! imagine that. All you need to do is make more friends in game and organise one. As easy as A B C!

Gosh never knew anyone would complain about premades lolx. It's all about strategy dude. I solo into BG as well. But good leadership and good team mates in BG makes for an excellent time. Also it would be good to have a good RL and players that listen to his orders. That's just like a pre-made, almost. hehehe

also if QQ over afkers is very different over premades dude. it seems that u're against premades and are for AFKers. maybe u're one of them! O_O
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some LYNs can testify against my leadership over PUG bgs, doesnt even really take a premade to win against a premade too. and yes, im saying ive curbstomped premades with pure pugs.


Added on January 17, 2008, 2:26 pm
QUOTE(myremi @ Jan 17 2008, 01:39 PM)
PvP is not a gentlemen's fight with gentlemen's rules.

Get over it.
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actually it is. the higher end and "upper level society" of pvp maintains their honor and dignity. think of it as old school mafia vs street punks.

want some solid article read?
http://www.gameriot.com/blogs/World-of-Ming/lolarena/

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post Jan 17 2008, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(CandleJack @ Jan 17 2008, 12:56 PM)
I don't know which is worse..
- ur teammates afk or
- having unorganized random players with no communication run all over the place vs well organized + good communication premades.

If you QQ about afk, u should QQ about premades too.

But premades is not wrong.
Just that there should be another place for them for better fair play.
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Premade vs Premade/Pug = something to do..
Afk vs Afk = nothing to do..

At least people who are playing, albeit randomly running around, can be persuaded to follow tactics. Afkers, what can you do? Spam GTFO won't get you anywhere. The chance is there for you to do something about clueless pugs. With afkers, you have no chance at all.


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post Jan 17 2008, 03:24 PM

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u know what isn't fair? The fact that i don't have billions of dollars...
QQ!!!
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post Jan 17 2008, 03:41 PM

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i rather get smoked to the ground by premade then loose to a bunch of fkn afkers......and premades vs premades will only lead to the other one leaving unless they are frm an arena team then its a whole new story lol
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post Jan 17 2008, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(CandleJack @ Jan 17 2008, 02:22 PM)
on another note, 3hours ban is for the LuLz...
what is 3 hours? ROFL
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3 hours is nothing but the gears they bought from BG is something. no?
Just imagine, full BG gears, all enchant and gems up. Suddenly all gone from your bags or bank. shocking.gif

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post Jan 17 2008, 04:14 PM

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bro, i think you still don't understand.
Premade = No AFKers
Pug = Easily 3-4 people AFK'ing
Therefore Premade Vs Pug = Premade win 90~99%. (assuming both side having same gears lvl)

If this step taken by blizzard will eliminate AFK
Therefore,
Pug = No AFKers also.
hence, Premade Vs Pug = Premade win 50~70%, due to better communication (again assuming both side having same gears lvl)

make sense??











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post Jan 17 2008, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(aaltong @ Jan 17 2008, 04:14 PM)
bro, i think you still don't understand.
Premade = No AFKers
Pug = Easily 3-4 people AFK'ing
Therefore Premade Vs Pug = Premade win 90~99%. (assuming both side having same gears lvl)

If this step taken by blizzard will eliminate AFK
Therefore,
Pug = No AFKers also.
hence, Premade Vs Pug = Premade win 50~70%, due to better communication (again assuming both side having same gears lvl)

make sense??
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that is one complex mathematical calculation sir
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post Jan 17 2008, 10:20 PM

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alltong i dont really agree with you...coz in premades in jubei'thos la not saying all servers...they even use vent and they check your gear so you at least have above 300 resil else u will be rolling with pug's and iv never seen horde premade loose
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post Jan 18 2008, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Jan 17 2008, 10:20 PM)
alltong i dont really agree with you...coz in premades in jubei'thos la not saying all servers...they even use vent and they check your gear so you at least have above 300 resil else u will be rolling with pug's and iv never seen horde premade loose
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recheck back my post, i said assuming same gears lvl mah.
In my servers also have people require atleaset 300 resil. but there are also some that just want to form premade to make sure no afkers.
I personally have been to few matches where we beat the premade.
So it is not impossible to beat them.
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QUOTE(aaltong @ Jan 17 2008, 03:43 PM)
3 hours is nothing but the gears they bought from BG is something. no?
Just imagine, full BG gears, all enchant and gems up. Suddenly all gone from your bags or bank.  shocking.gif
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yeah
theres quite a few people ive noticed running around without their shirts or pants on
lol busted big time doh.gif
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post Jan 19 2008, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(aaltong @ Jan 18 2008, 08:48 AM)
recheck back my post, i said assuming same gears lvl mah.
In my servers also have people require atleaset 300 resil. but there are also some that just want to form premade to make sure no afkers.
I personally have been to few matches where we beat the premade.
So it is not impossible to beat them.
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yup..im from jubei too, jubei thos players are somehow serious players (mostly).....including raids, and pvps =/ they do check for your gears resil, and also requires vent for some teams
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premades who que another bg when meeting another premades are noobssss lololol
want fast honor but no skill
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raptar_eric what is ur cha name in jthos allie or horde?? got guild or not?? msian guild or aussie/others?? kasi info
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No need to whine about premades, dude. I regularly get my arse handed to me by premades and has been that way for the last 3 years, and that will not change. PVP is the highest sport in WOW. Its gamer vs gamer with no holds barred. They better than you (or luckier), they win. You better than them you win. And any tactics within the rules of the game are fair because fighting is like that. You want to play then don't cry.



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post Jan 24 2008, 06:36 PM

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I'm in a PvP guild and we steamroll all BG with premades or preformAV.

WSG - Game longer than 10 minutes isn't worth playing.
AB - 5 cap is the only way to play this map.
EOTS - 4 cap + farm them at starting point.

For the horde!
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QUOTE(jameslsy @ Jan 24 2008, 06:36 PM)
I'm in a PvP guild and we steamroll all BG with premades or preformAV.

WSG - Game longer than 10 minutes isn't worth playing.
AB - 5 cap is the only way to play this map.
EOTS - 4 cap + farm them at starting point.

For the horde!
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I only queue AV when im not in a PM, Getting in a PM is funny tho, 15 noobs in greens actually can scare people from elite pvp servers (tich, blackrock). They leave just before the game start and we cap everything. easy honor.

BGs were never fun to begin with, people just do it for honor... arena items to overpowered IMO
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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Jan 24 2008, 11:47 PM)
I only queue AV when im not in a PM, Getting in a PM is funny tho, 15 noobs in greens actually can scare people from elite pvp servers (tich, blackrock). They leave just before the game start and we cap everything. easy honor.

BGs were never fun to begin with, people just do it for honor... arena items to overpowered IMO
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only people that claim arena items are overpowered:

- scrubs
- pve scrubs

which are you?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 25 2008, 09:35 AM)
only people that claim arena items are overpowered:

- scrubs
- pve scrubs

which are you?
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Sorry if you misunderstood me, by "overpowered", im just saying they are upgrading it too fast, and people with 0 arena gear dont stand a chance in arenas, it has become more geared based, instead of skill based like in season 1 or 2.(Of course you still need skill to be high ranked)

Im 4/5 S3 btw, getting my 5th piece soon, i am not trying to brag here, just to show some form of credibility, There is no need to call me a scrub.

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Jan 25 2008, 10:37 PM)
Sorry if you misunderstood me, by "overpowered", im just saying they are upgrading it too fast, and people with 0 arena gear dont stand a chance in arenas, it has become more geared based, instead of skill based like in season 1 or 2.(Of course you still need skill to be high ranked)

Im 4/5 S3 btw, getting my 5th piece soon, i am not trying to brag here, just to show some form of credibility, There is no need to call me a scrub.
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if you havent noticed, the only thing they are doing is closing the gear cap.

the difference between s1 and s3 gear arent huge compared to say, blue hwl gear. and farming honor takes no skill, just time. of course, having skill poured into farming honor does makes it faster and more effecient. but thats not the point. at the end of the day, new players can go full set arena gear in say 2-5 days give or take the moment he hits 70, then later on its up to his arena team to decide if he can get fat ratings or not, and if he does, it doesnt take long for him to get 100% full s3.

obviously you dont get to own faces with scrub gears. what, you expect someone that spent time to grind honor and arena points in full s3 to be "on par" to someone that played an hour or 2 per day and 2-3 days per week wearing blues and greens? its a mmorpg, if you want 100% skill based, go play a random multiplayer FPS or RTS instead. hell, put you in their shoes, what would you think if you have full s3, and your difference against a green geared scrub isnt huge, and you have a high risk of losing against him, wouldnt it make you look f***ing stupid for spending the effort to even obtain your gear?

seriously, think about it for once.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 26 2008, 01:03 AM)
if you havent noticed, the only thing they are doing is closing the gear cap.

the difference between s1 and s3 gear arent huge compared to say, blue hwl gear. and farming honor takes no skill, just time. of course, having skill poured into farming honor does makes it faster and more effecient. but thats not the point. at the end of the day, new players can go full set arena gear in say 2-5 days give or take the moment he hits 70, then later on its up to his arena team to decide if he can get fat ratings or not, and if he does, it doesnt take long for him to get 100% full s3.

obviously you dont get to own faces with scrub gears. what, you expect someone that spent time to grind honor and arena points in full s3 to be "on par" to someone that played an hour or 2 per day and 2-3 days per week wearing blues and greens? its a mmorpg, if you want 100% skill based, go play a random multiplayer FPS or RTS instead. hell, put you in their shoes, what would you think if you have full s3, and your difference against a green geared scrub isnt huge, and you have a high risk of losing against him, wouldnt it make you look f***ing stupid for spending the effort to even obtain your gear?

seriously, think about it for once.
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And all these leads to the sad state of BG now. it used to be afks, now its premades. I am not QQing about premades, all i ask is that blizz make it premades vs premades. BGs are just used to farm honor, its not about pawning people and having fun anymore. When was the last time you were in a BG that was fun? i dont know what happens in your battlegroup, but in BG9, its bad man. EOTS and AB lasts 2 mins, 1 hr queue on horde side.

You say s1 gear and s3 gear do not have a huge difference, unfortunately i cannot agree with that. I am not asking for 100% skill based, maybe 60-70% instead. Now i see arenas as 60% gear 40% skill.

Perhaps im complaining juz because its so freaking hard to get gear for my pally i just leveled. I am just asking for BGs to be fun, not as a prereq to obtain a decent rating in arena (lets say 1500-1600 ish)
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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Jan 26 2008, 03:59 AM)
And all these leads to the sad state of BG now. it used to be afks, now its premades. I am not QQing about premades, all i ask is that blizz make it premades vs premades. BGs are just used to farm honor, its not about pawning people and having fun anymore. When was the last time you were in a BG that was fun? i dont know what happens in your battlegroup, but in BG9, its bad man. EOTS and AB lasts 2 mins, 1 hr queue on horde side.

You say s1 gear and s3 gear do not have a huge difference, unfortunately i cannot agree with that. I am not asking for 100% skill based, maybe 60-70% instead. Now i see arenas as 60% gear 40% skill.

Perhaps im complaining juz because its so freaking hard to get gear for my pally i just leveled. I am just asking for BGs to be fun, not as a prereq to obtain a decent rating in arena (lets say 1500-1600 ish)
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first you want premade vs premade, then you complaint bout queue times. do you realize to get a premade vs premade match up it would only worsen the queue times? unless you pre-arranged with the alliance to do premades at the same time you are doing.

BG can be fun whenever you decide it to be fun, in fact i just had a fun game of WSG daily yesterday with my guildies. but really though, try to exaggerate less, EOTS with the best winning condition you'd still need aprox 7-9 mins to win, AB 5-6 mins. 2mins? lolwut?! (unless you wanna include lolsploits capping nodes before gate even open but seriously now)

now you say arenas are 60% gear 40% skill, tell me, what determines the outcome of an arena match, when both side all members are having maxed out s3 gears (pretty much same gears)? still gear? thats right, only skill/class composition/talents/RNG/RPS etc etc left to determine the outcome, gear is no longer in the equation.

and if ur "pre-req" to arena is just 1500-1600 ratings, you really dont need decent arena gears to do it, so long you do bg and have few good pieces of s3 honor, it should be more than enough. hell your a paladin, its even easier to get decent ratings in shitty gear.

 

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