Question: How do you upgrade your iPod Touch if you have neither AOL nor .Mac accounts?

huh?

don't understand what are you asking

via iTunes ....

he is asking about the new upgrade featured on new ipod-touch...
geram..

they add mail, notes, maps, weather ....

it cost USD20 bucks...

you need iTunes, an iTunes account, and the ability to purchase with that account. this is for the 5 apps.

however, upgrading to 1.1.3 firmware is free via iTunes.

This post has been edited by ihawk98: Jan 16 2008, 05:08 PM

what are the fixes in the new firmware??

1 word,cant upgrade now?

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Added on January 16, 2008, 5:30 pmnew appz.

This post has been edited by feizaiII: Jan 16 2008, 05:30 PM

I'm one of those bizarre people who is against jailbreaking and go for original. Am now downloading the new upgrade. Hopefully they added the ability to view lyrics. *crosses fingers*

Anyone bought the new 5 apps from iTunes yet?

20U$ for 5 extra apps? Please jailbreak for the love of god. I don't think its justifiable spending RM70 on widgets.

Some people would rather use things the way it's intended. I bet you've burnt RM70 on something more menial, yes?

To TS: Maybe we can use iTunes gift cards to purchase the 5 apps. I'll check around and re-confirm.

What if you need to Restore your iPod if something goes wrong, pay another 20 bucks? What if it save inside our PC system and if system crash, format and pay another 20 bucks for another apps cause the copy already cleaned.

What if apple change to FOC tomorrow?

Btw, we got a new dock for iPod touch.



...just like an iPhone dock, now they both are truly brothers.

This post has been edited by Mike3300: Jan 16 2008, 07:18 PM

quite frankly, the iphone dock is ugly....i prefer the 1.1.1/1.1.2 ipod touch dock.

1.1.3 is free upgrade for anyone
and u only need to pay for the extra apps, lyric/chapter/organize icon is part of the paid upgrade as well, they doesnt come with 1.1.3

will they include flash? and to view pdf files?

you can already view PDF files...
flash... not yet...

1.1.3 is a tempting update for me, cause with all the new features excluding the apps. If the 1.1.3 updates including free apps, I'll be done jailbreaking, revert to stock and update to new firmware happily. My only reason on why I jailbreak is because of the 4 apps, I don't use Stocks.

agree, the old dock looks much more better!

it's kinda nonsense for charging for the extras, while new iPod Touch that starts shipping today have that new apps for free, preinstalled.This may give an impression that Apple is screwing up early adopters of Touch. but it's up to users to choose. now they got 3 options :
1) Add the features via jailbreak
2) Add via iTunes (owww...USD20 terbang...)
3) Not adding at all

mmm...also i think that xtras can't be purchased 'officially' here as the whole procedure is through iTunes.

after the update and i thought we could move icons around...but doesnt seem to be working for me...

Easier to say, just make it free.

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Added on January 16, 2008, 11:10 pmPress any icons for few seconds till you see all of the icons jiggle/shaking. Did you?

This post has been edited by Mike3300: Jan 16 2008, 11:10 PM

yeah, it should be free. the long version of my thought is for satisfying every thoughts like "hey, it can already achieved by jailbreaking" and "mmm...i only support legiti
ate softwares, so i will only upgrade legally" and "oh, i don't need that upgrade, hell with that".

ipod touch can install dictionary?
very useful app when in class.. can check the words..

Just read from Engadget that you can move icons in the around from the US$20 update. Lyrics too. Trying to look for details of the 1.1.3 update but no luck yet. Anyone who come across any please post it here for the convenience of other readers.

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Added on January 17, 2008, 3:42 amBy the way I think the new look to the homepage looks awesome. It clearly distinguishes the icons in the bar from the ones on the main page. Sweetness.

I salute Apple for making me fall harder in love with my iPod Touch. Now looking for ways to get the 5 apps the legit way!

This post has been edited by zacharoo: Jan 17 2008, 03:42 AM

Im thinking apple screwed up the early adopters of the iPod touch, making us pay the USD20 for all these apps that will come free with the new version of it.

But heck, I would upgrade in a heartbeat if we can do it easily here

other than apps will the new update save us on battery life?....what other bugs have they fixed?...if they put in a 5 band eq i'm updating!.LOL

Not the $20 get you the new updates but just the 5 apps. 1.1.3 firmware update gets you all the lyrics/more playback control when playing movies/etc.

Ait. Are you sure about that? I've upgraded mine to 1.1.3 but I don't seem to see any way of viewing lyrics? Can somebody share how to do this? Engadget reported that this feature is only available in the US$20 plus the 5 apps.

Puzzling.

yapp yapp .. pay 20,than you have it.

My bad, read up at Engadget as well, you need $20 bucks plus 1.1.3 for the full update features.

Apple is smart eh?

why not $5 only? 1 app for 1 bucks, hehehe...

mmm...why doesnt apple just include them in the firmware? maybe they thought that the extras deserved a price. strange, this is not like an OS upgrade where we stuck with an earlier version, and the new same device got all the new features preinstalled, while we have to pay for opting for the extras. huhu...

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Jan 18 2008, 12:58 AM

does the fake gps thingy work in malaysia?

Thank you for verifying.

from what i've read from the live keynote address,

"...we're working with two companies. Google, and Skyhook wireless -- we've driven the US and Canada and mapped WiFi hotspots, they have 23m hotspots in their database...."

so maybe it still doesnt work for us yet.

thing is though, the GPS won't come to Msia for a while.
and what happens when someone shifts their router/hotspot. you'll get really bad directions then.

This post has been edited by jinXxxx: Jan 18 2008, 04:56 AM

Maybe they map hotspots which are permanent, such as wifi from certain providers like TM, P1, Jaring or Time. They will not blindly record location data of personal wifi routers. Like they're doing now in US, they're partnering with Skyhook Wireless for record of the mapping data.

The downside of this Touch 'GPS' is it is not tracking via the triangulation of cellular tower.

Yes. True that. But then the GPS would be quite pointless when you move out of the City limits when there's no hotspots available.

It doesn't a cellular phone radio built-in. If it had it'd been called the i-Phone. haha...

mmm...if you can hook some cash, y not opt for a dock GPS module that should be available in february? yes, it is a real gps. but dunno if it will be on market or not.

how ooo ?
third party apps ?

in Mail app can already view PDF (Mail is available with the 20 bucks software update pack, or through jailbreak). But it is limited to the Mail environment. There's a 3rd party software called PDF Viewer that make use the PDF viewing capability into a software, which is an app in iPod Touch.

Yes, needs to jailbreak. But the catch is that there's still no jailbreak method available for the 1.1.3. So to view the PDF natively you need a jailbreak version of Mail, not the official one which is only supported on 1.1.3 platform.

its really stupid to have such a good device, but the application capabilities are limited somehow or someway with some stupid conditions.

when jailbreak liaw, no more warranty cover. it was like "what the fark"

This post has been edited by wingcross: Jan 18 2008, 10:42 AM

You mean sort of like an add-on to the Touch, or a standalone item?
Either way, it's not a biggie. It's an iPod and I'm supposed to play music on it. Having a GPS is an extra but not something that I'd miss.

The warranty is still there mah.. you can restore it.

I'm planning to purchase the US$25 itunes card to purchase the update,

but,

anyone did it and can roughly tell us hows the procedures ?

Thax = )

I believe that the ways of creating iTunes account and adding the store amount has been explained many times but the latest i've seen is on the iPod Touch thread. so that's gonna be straight.

Ok, 1st make sure that you've updated the firmware to 1.1.3. After you've your account with the iTunes Store amount, open the iTunes Store and click on "iPod Touch : January Software Update". The procedure then is straightforward. It will download another update to the firmware (the .ipa file i guess) and then it is installed to your iPod Touch.

the ipod touch software update is really tempting,i hope the gps will be available when iphone is officially launched here(which i dunno when)

Ur reply always full of tips and info,of cos a friendly member. Pin it up somewhere plx,mod.

well dude, the explanation sounds like a crappy one... it sounds like u juz do a few clicks and the software pops up... thax the help

anyway, anyone be kind to show a few screenshots of it if you had done the upgrade?
since it's expensive to do so, i would like to know it's easy to do then i purchase the itunes cash card.
Thax guys = ) much appreciated.

Actually it is really easy and straightforward as the upgrade is made around the interface of iTunes Music Store. It is almost like doing the firmware update. The only difference is you need to pay, in which it will prompt for your iTunes password just like when you are doing any purchase of song. If you find the firmware upgrade (if you had done before) is straightforward, this also almost the same. But remember to connect first your iPod Touch before clicking the "January Software Update" icon. And then it will bring you to the download page. And at the page it tells you the details of the 5 applications plus other functions such as the icon rearrangement.

I know maybe you need more convincing explanation as money is involved here. But if you doubt it, just go to apple.com and click Support. But I heard that some apple reseller here now bring in USD25 iTunes card for helping of this purpose. Maybe if they're kind enough you can ask them how to do it. Yeah they should be kind as they jack up the price of the cards here.

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Added on January 20, 2008, 1:35 pmBut if you're a beginner of the iTunes Store, it will be easier if you familiarise 1st with the iTunes Store interface. Just create a free iTunes account by using the free music coupon code guide that's mentioned around this AppleByte forum. And then just browse around the music store. I know you'll get addicted by the free pilot episodes of TV Shows or maybe free musics featured. As you getting accustomed to it, you'll eventually know that everything's from Apple is kinda straightforward.

Sorry off topic. But I think this is great as an exposure for people that want to upgrade their January Software Update.

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Jan 20 2008, 01:35 PM

Erm the itunestore is not available in malaysia... am i right?
So are we able to purchase items from there?

Yeah, with iTunes Store Gift Card.

Sorry if this is a lame question, but which mall sells these?

I've read this on the iPod Touch thread:

Maybe this should help. But yeah, the price is steep. But it's more convenient if you'd like to ask the procedures from them, alongside with your purchase of iTunes Store card. But if you want a cheaper solution, there's a thread around that sells the iTunes credit. Yeah way more cheaper. Or maybe you can get the iTunes credit from eBay. There are so many options.

cool... thax a lot for the explanation...
will get the card and try it out in these few days time... hope got ppl starts selling it...
u r the best

I got mine 16GB at rm1499 and updated to 1.1.3 and pay USD20 (deduct from iTunes store credit) to get the 5 apps.

Upgrade firmware and buy additional apps was just a breeze. I love the lyrics vieiwing feature and Mail app where i can check my .Mac and Gmail on the touch.

Been "touching" it day and night ;-p

neekun, where u get the itunes card? or u r living in overseas...

care to capture screen for us to have a look of your newly upgaded iPod Touch f/w 1.1.3 ?

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Added on January 22, 2008, 1:52 pmcare to capture screen for us to have a look of your newly upgaded iPod Touch f/w 1.1.3 ?


This post has been edited by friends: Jan 22 2008, 01:52 PM

I took some photos of the iPod Touch showing lyrics, Google maps, new appliations :-)





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i have both uk debit and credit cards. there is an itunes uk store. i might be able to help though at a small fraction of profit



uk's ipod touch january software upgrade retails at £12.99 and the next closest available itunes gift card denominator is £15.

I just got the January upgrade today and was happy with it. However, as I was reading up on jailbreaking and thought that my upgrade wasn't that worth it anymore. I used to think that jailbreaking would void my iPod's warranty but apparently restoring the iPod using iTunes would return it to its original condition with no obvious sign of having been jailbroken. I thought I would feel better doing things the legal way but now I'm quite bummed.

P.S. It looks like it's cheaper to buy the upgrade on the US iTunes store than the UK one. I have a US iTunes store account and can help with buying gift cards too! It's also cheaper than buying the gift card from an Apple authorized reseller in Malaysia. Let me know!

You shouldn't rush on things. Btw, Apple Authorized Resellers are selling it at RM119 for the USD25 gift card. How much did you bought for yourself?

Btw, remember the SDK will be release to developers in Feb? 1.1.3 is the firmware that is ready to load/install all the softwares/applications, 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 will be unable to do so.

Those who runs 1.1.3 on their iPod Touch or iPhone can load their apps pretty fast than before too cause all the apps aren't stored in Root folder but instead Mobile folder, so I guess it's pretty fast to load apps without missing things behind.

This post has been edited by Mike3300: Jan 23 2008, 10:10 PM

May I know where can I buy iTunes Store Gift Card somewhere in KL and Selangor?

I need it to upgrade my ipod touch...

For one thing, when u create the iTunes account, shall i not put in the address since Malaysia does not have an iTunes Store here...

I thought I'd just give it a try. Guess I couldn't wait till the release of the SDK in February and till someone makes the applications I want to use. I'm finding the Mail application really useful.

I paid for my January software upgrade in USD using my US iTunes Store account, not using the gift card. So it's the published price, USD19.9~MYR66.

Now that you asked me to state the price in MYR, it's not as bad.

Here is why Apple charges 20$ for upgrade: http://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/23/skyhoo...one-ipod-touch/

USAToday profiles Skyhook Wireless who helps provide some of the technology behind Apple's new GPS-like location features in the iPhone and iPod Touch's Google Maps application.

Skyhook Wireless was formed in 2003 and uses a database of Wi-Fi hotspots to determine your geographic location. The process is explained:

"Every Wi-Fi access point, whether public or private, sends out a signal every second or so, like a lighthouse. We pick up those signals and use our technology to calculate your exact location."

While Wi-Fi hotspots are detected based on these signals, no direct connection is made to them. To seed the system with data, Skyhook sent teams of drives around the US and Canada to map out hotspots. They say they have 70% of North America covered, and are currently adding Europe and Asia. Unlike GPS, Skyhook's system works better indoors and in urban settings.

Of interest, Skyhook generally receives a payment per device sold with the technology, and this fee may be built into the fee Apple is charging for the iPod touch software update. For the iPhone, Apple starts with Skyhook's Wifi database first, and if unable to find a hotspot, it then falls back to using less-precise cellular tower information provided by Google.

A company called Navizon had provided very similar technology for iPhone users as an unofficial 3rd party application.

This post has been edited by Voxe: Jan 23 2008, 11:37 PM

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for posting it up.

Do you really need to pay USD 20 for ipod Touch upgrade to get 5 appl?

I can browse google map, weather.com, gmail instantly, after bookmarking them in Safari browser. I have 1.1.3 firmware updated, i can view pdf, MS excel, MS document files from gmail easily.

This post has been edited by auronthas: Jan 24 2008, 09:32 AM

It's your choice. Some people think it's alright since they use these few apps alot.


On the other hand, some people might not spend as much on speakers...

(Nice audio setup!)

which model worth to buy ? 8G ? or 16G ?

Ipod touch can view ms word,powerpoint n pdf ?

personally, i have the 16GB and love it to death.

as for your 2nd question, in its native form (straight out of the box), it cannot handle any attachments. once it is jailbroken, there is a PDF viewer app that can be installed. But i don't think it can handle MS office docs (anyone can confirm this?).

for more detailed information about unleashing the power of the ipod Touch, please check the sticky thread in this sub-forum.

This post has been edited by ihawk98: Jan 24 2008, 01:16 PM

As mentioned in my earlier post, i can view MS word, excel, pdf from gmail. When i click on attachment (say pdf), a separate pdf page is loaded. My iPod Touch firmware is 1.1.3.

Just had a hands on my new touch &
I'm about to jailbreak mine when i found this topic..

Now I'm wondering wheather want to be "bad" or "clean"..
BTW, still thinking what kind of man aka alien develope this kind
of device?? its freakin' cool!!

for RM66..hmm..its quite tempting..
its more iphone now eh

If you face a dilemma deciding whether to be "bad" or "clean"...then you would rather be "clean"...like me...RM66 is not that bad after all right??? Yea it was tempting...I didn't want to buy it at first...After I got the firmware upgrade, my iTunes store was redirected to the January software upgrade purchase page...the pictures and description looked so tempting I just clicked the buy button

I just hope Apple won't make me have to pay again in the future...I don't think I can stand the...uhm...extortion

i saw the picture on page 3, i realize when the music is played there are lyrics too, how do u do that?

That's one of the features u will get for 20 bucks (i mean US Dollar) upgrade..
the one we all talk about here

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Added on January 25, 2008, 9:28 amI think i will stick to jailbreak method to try it max potential..
When the time come i'll be back to virgin state..heheh
We can alway restore to factory condition right?
Can anyone confirm this?

This post has been edited by lone_rider: Jan 25 2008, 09:28 AM

from everything that i've read so far, yes. a simple restore via iTunes will get your ipod back to "virgin" state but all your songs and vids in your ipod also gone so need to resync.