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 Is spaying / neutering your pet cruel?, Please read the first post before voting

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Cimredopyh
post Jan 14 2008, 11:45 PM

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Theres a woman who lives on the same row as my family home who is amazingly kind enough to catch female stray cats, take them to the vet and pay out of her own pocket to have them spayed
why do i say 'kind' ?
well...because the life of a female stray is pretty much giving birth non stop the body getting weaker and weaker with each birth. Not to mention the poor worm ridden kittens who almost never survive. They keep getting sick, starving, getting run over by cars and if they manage to make it to adulthood only end up in the same situation as their parents.
I really look up to this lady, its hard to find people who care and actually DO something to make a difference. Talk is cheap.
Feeding strays is well and good, im not saying dont do it (i do it too) but unless you are willing to care for them full time, even i have to admit that the sad reality is that it changes..well...pretty much nothing

'It's all created for the conveniences of mankind'
Yes it probably was created for convinience. But to be fair you must realize that not every pet owner is doing this for their own selfish reasons. There are many very valid, very real reasons to do it for the health of the animal.

If you are choose not to have it done and can be 100% responsible for your animal and its offspring thats ok with me.
But to say that spaying/neutering is cruel, i think this is a rather one sided biased view of it, as in the example of the lady above and in so many situations that are easily overlooked, I have to say that spaying/neutering is the kind, resposible and humane thing to do.

Needless to say i voted for neutering/spaying. Both my cats (adopted from a litter abandoned behind my house ) have had it done
Cimredopyh
post Jan 15 2008, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jan 14 2008, 11:55 PM)
This is the best sounding post I have ever read and what the woman is doing is really something worthy of respect. How does she catch the cat? If you put it in a cycle like that, I can see the picture better.
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In part i think the cats in the area are familiar with her as she puts food and water out for them daily. I know she uses a cat carrier to transport them but how exactly she catches them i do not know.

QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jan 14 2008, 11:55 PM)
Even though I agree with this but I only see this as a point of view for strays and not properly home owned pets. If we were to house a pet, we were to care and be responsible for it for life.
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Strays are the direct result of irresponsible pet owners, in an ideal world everyone would be responsible, but we all know how that works out in reality >.>.
Every single one of those strays running the streets is because somewhere down the line a pet owner was irresponsible in some way or another

PS: Thanks Pennywise for sticking to your guns in a mature way, you can be sure people who do not see neutering/spaying as cruel will take what you have to say into serious consideration even though they may not agree with you



Cimredopyh
post Jan 16 2008, 04:40 AM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jan 15 2008, 11:42 PM)
That's IF you wanted to spay / neuter... If you wanted to get a next generation and you just came home with the other half of your furkid. You'd scream and kill the founder.
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You lost your pet, so pretty much it found itself living the life of a stray ( a purebreed with a collar and no way of tracing to any owner is a stray ) then by some amazing luck you find it in in the hands of someone who cares enough to spend money to do something they believe was best for an animal that isnt even theirs, even if you had intended to breed i doubt you would scream and yell to find a much loved pet in the hands of someone like that.
The only person who would scream and yell in such a situation, in my opinion, does not care for that pet as a companion, Thats someone who just cares about breeding
for anyone else the joy of finding them again would eclipse the disapointment of being unable to breed

QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jan 15 2008, 11:42 PM)
Scenario 1 - when the unfortunate happen - we are unable to take care of our pets anymore and have to give them up for adoption.
- I would give them up for adoption as nature would want it - NO AGAIN TO NEUTER / SPAY! Why? Ok, if God intended their life to be a horrible one, nobody can help it. I know I could have with the spaying and neutering thing but then I do not wish to play God. I see it as a sin, as minor as it could be. As light as it is compared to debark / declaw. I will let the next owner carry the sin, give the owner a chance to choose what's best for their new furkid. I wont go deciding on other people's behalf - that's not right, I think. I know it probably sound selfish that I do not have the courage to bear the sin. It's nothing about guts but I'm all against taking mother nature and modify it into something else. I ain't Captain Planet but I love them too much to hurt them. Discipline / cane them, I think OK... Cut them, NO!
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No matter how i look at it if you give your pet to someone who is irresponsible or someone who takes advantage of your pets ability to reproduce, the 'blood' is still on your hands.

You knew there was a chance it could happen. You were the one who put them in that situation. You made the choices for your pet that resulted in that situation.
If you had done everything you could and still something bad happens, THEN only you can say that it was fate
Accidents happen, priorities and situations can change.
You cant controll or predict what happens in the hands of the new owner so you should do everything you can to make sure your pet stands the best chance at a happy, healthy rest of his/her life

If you didnt do something but knew maybe you should have, when something bad happens, sorry but you are the guilty one. Too easy to blame everything on God.


Not a flame, just my 2c. If i sound like im hot under the collar its because this was written from the heart. smile.gif


 

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