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kenji_britney
post Jun 15 2008, 03:22 PM

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I just got bambi a new cage yesterday from jtl's pet shack and 2 extra play pens, she's got an upgrade from 'link house' to 'bungalow' now hehe.

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post Jun 15 2008, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(11Jan @ Jun 15 2008, 03:38 PM)
nice setup for bambi, she must be enjoying her new bungalow!

how's her litter training coming along? nice potty you got for her smile.gif
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haha i think she assumes the litter tray as her bed which is also good la, the more she sits there then the more she can poo there. but she still poos all over the cage so have to still slowly train her.
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post Jun 15 2008, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(11Jan @ Jun 15 2008, 03:44 PM)
lol, maybe its a new cage, so she's busy marking it as hers tongue.gif you can move her hay and pellets nearer to her potty, if she can sit on her potty and reach her food at the same time, that will help cos they usually poo when they eat and soon, she'll get the hang of it
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ah ok thanks for the tip! oh she doesn't climb up to the 2nd level much which makes me think she's not the type to climb much.
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post Jun 15 2008, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(bebee @ Jun 15 2008, 06:03 PM)
scare of height ?
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i dunno wor, maybe la but then this morning we found her sleeping on the 2nd floor. so maybe she just malas to climb sweat.gif
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post Jun 15 2008, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(jaanu1128 @ Jun 15 2008, 06:12 PM)
so sweet...i also looking a new cage for my rabbit...i think the current one seems small for him...i'm sure my LULI will be happier if he get the cage like you coz he's so notty and love to jump...
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hehe how big is his cage now? is it a small one like my previous one?
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post Jun 15 2008, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(jaanu1128 @ Jun 15 2008, 06:23 PM)
nope...smaller that ur previous cage...when i bought him last time he just as big as my palm ...but after 1 and half month he become bigger already...need to find bigger cage to make sure he feel comfortable...
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my previous cage very small leh, roughly 60cm x 40cm x 50cm. i can't imagine any smaller cage lol. anyway i'm sure most petshops would have big cages, maybe even carrefour has.

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post Jun 15 2008, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(jaanu1128 @ Jun 15 2008, 06:33 PM)
mine roughly 46cmx30cmx35cm...yeah, i'm going to buy the bigger one..planning to buy bunglow like urs but now in process calculation...heheh blush.gif
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wah slightly smaller than mine! lol yeah try find nice big bungalow let him run and jump around inside. hehe.. go do survey first before you buy, maybe can find cheaper one thumbup.gif
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post Jun 15 2008, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(sangterap @ Jun 15 2008, 06:39 PM)
hahaha....will share my bunny apartment soon! LOL!!!!
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lol join in the fun! you using the diy panels one ah?
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post Jun 15 2008, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(sangterap @ Jun 15 2008, 06:44 PM)
no la...no diy panels....

improvision of all technology....

give me 2 more weeks.....

the apartment takes time to build....lol....
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hehe interesting rclxms.gif , can't wait to see your 'megastructure' tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jaanu1128 @ Jun 15 2008, 06:52 PM)
urghhhhh...can't wait to see ur new apartment....need to get some idea for my bunny new bungalow... rclxm9.gif

Added on June 15, 2008, 7:01 pmguys...i need to know about soft stool for bunny...i know that normal time for  bunny to produce soft stools early in the morning and late night... they will eat directly from the anus..is the soft stool have very bad smell? how long normally they will produce it?? 2 hours? 3 hrs?my LULI produce a lot of it and sometime the soft stools will stick to his hair..and will mess the hair...
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hmm partly because you have a small cage that's why he got no other place to poo, so his poo will eventually stick to his backside. but normally rabbits don't have much soft stools, bambi only has 1 or 2 soft stools a day, and not everyday it occurs but when it does, it stinks. tongue.gif i think the pee smells even worse actually. when you get a bigger cage then you can litter train LULI.
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post Jun 15 2008, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(11Jan @ Jun 15 2008, 07:58 PM)
When a rabbit produces excess soft stool (cecals), the first thing to do is to examine its diet. A diet high in protein is usually the cause of excess cecals (barring any health problems).

What kind of pellets is Luli eating? Is it alfalfa-based pellets? Are you feeding Luli alfalfa hay as well?

Generally, it is recommended to feed baby rabbits with alfalfa-based pellets and alfalfa hay, as alfalfa is high in protein and a baby rabbit needs protein for growth and to strengthen its bones.

But some baby rabbits are sensitive to too much protein. In this case, you can replace alfalfa hay with timothy hay and see if there's improvements (hay is the most important part of a rabbit's diet and the fiber in hay helps to ensure a healthy digestive system).

If after switching to timothy hay, Luli still has excess cecals, cut down on alfalfa based pellets and switch him over to timothy based pellets slowly (i.e. if now he is eating 100% alfalfa pellets, give him 75% alfalfa and 25% timothy pellets, and slowly increase timothy pellets while decreasing alfalfa pellets). Changes to a rabbit's diet must be done slowly to allow time for its digestive tract to adjust to the change.


Added on June 15, 2008, 8:02 pm

to reduce the smell of pee, you can add a few teaspoons of sodium bicarbonate into Bambi's litter, i tried this before and it works (cheap too!  biggrin.gif ). I also tried recycled paper litter, can't remember the brand now, but pet safari sells it, it comes in a few different colours (grey, pink, blue), it works well too in reducing odour. And after their spay & neuter, their pee no longer smells  icon_rolleyes.gif
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very informative thumbup.gif hmm sodium bicarbonate.. that's baking soda right? will try some later, she just loves sitting on the comot tongue.gif actually the odour doesn't really bother me cause it's only when i wake up in the morning.. ughh smelly.. then bring her outside then no more smell anymore. so i only need to tahan in the morning lol.
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post Jun 15 2008, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(jaanu1128 @ Jun 15 2008, 08:16 PM)
Luli eat pallets contains
Crude protein = 17%min
crude fat = 2%min
Crude Fibre = 20%max
Moisture 13%max
Phosphorus = 0.5% min
Calcium = 0.8-1.5%

alfalfa hay contains
Crude protein = 15%min
crude fat = 1%min
Crude Fibre = 30%max

both bought from Beh&Yo shop...

Added on June 15, 2008, 8:23 pmi also gave him papaya tablet from oxbow product one tablet a day...
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hmm i think should try to get some timothy hay for Luli now since he's not so young anymore. the pellets i'm not too sure, have to seek sifu 11Jan's advice biggrin.gif

here's a few links for your reference
http://www.rabbit.org/faq/sections/diet.html
http://www.rabbit.org/care/veggies.html
http://www.rabbit.org/care/fruits.html
http://www.adoptarabbit.com/articles/toxic.html

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post Jun 15 2008, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(sangterap @ Jun 15 2008, 10:21 PM)
Your vet is rabbit savvy. Probiotics is good particularly the one by the name of BENEBAC. It is a gel like probiotics that can be given to the rabbit. I normally swipe a little on baby rabbits' mouth. They will freak out at first but soon lap em up.

probiotics basically helps with striking a balance in the stomach between good and bad bacteria.

Hope she stop those excessive cecal soon. Through my research, it is quite common for rabbits that has left their mums too early to have this problem. Normally between 6 to 8 weeks the baby rabbit will eat the cecal from their mums. And for those separated from their mums earlier, this phase of their lives are taken away. So, they find it a little difficult to strike a balance in the stomach on their own.
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my parents take probiotics too biggrin.gif it's to boost the good bacteria, for us humans especially after we've taken antibiotics which kills ALL bacteria, probiotics rebuilds the good bacteria.
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post Jun 16 2008, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(lm_meileng @ Jun 16 2008, 09:24 AM)
hi, i really learn a lot after reading all the posts pertaining to the topic of bunny soft stools. From the first day i have my bun bun, i learned that they hv a very sensitive stomach, that is why i control their diet from the very early of their age (from 3 months onwards). i give small amount of pellet for them to fill their stomach and the rest of the day they will munch on the unlimited hay, timorthy hay to be exact. i do not simply introduce them other food, only stick on pellets, hay and water. eventhough my bun bun is not really fat, but they r fit and do not give me any health problem......i always believe hay is important, in fact very important to build up bun bun digestive system. campare to pellet, hay is more natural and should give bun bun a lot of them to munch. my two one year plus bun bun only now start to have the papaya tablet, one a day and their r perfectly fine with it. i think yr bun bun have too much protein, u can hv a try on timorthy hay (lower protein content) and slowly cut down the pellet, bun bun above 6 month need to gradually change to timorthy pellets. stick to simple diet plan, give them unlimited hay, water, exercise and of course, yr love.....hope this will help  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i don't feed bambi papaya pellets, are they important ah? i do give her some fruits for treats once in a while though. anyway she runs around the garden eating anything she feels like eating so that's like hay to her.

oh yeah i got one thing to ask.. i brought bambi's cage into my room last night cause it was very hot outside, it's the 2nd time i brought her in. the first time i put her by the patio door, she saw a cat and started stomping, so i thought that would be normal.
Stomping — He's frightened, mad or trying to tell you that there's danger (in his opinion)
then last night i put her against the wall, away from the door and for no reason she started stomping again at about 2.30am for half an hour.. any idea why? takkan she was frightened or mad or there was any danger? or was she just trying to wake me up to get my attention?

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QUOTE(sangterap @ Jun 16 2008, 11:52 AM)
I believe Bambi feels threatened, that's why he stomp. That's a normal behavior for rabbits to tell others that danger is near. Make sure you take this seriously because it is stressful for her and if the "threat" comes near, she may get shocked.
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yeah i tried looking outside but there wasn't anything around. if i leave her in the living room then she won't make any noise (probably cause she can't see anything since there's only walls around her). but we were afraid that it was too hot for her so thinking of giving her ice cubes if she's hot.
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QUOTE(sangterap @ Jun 16 2008, 12:01 PM)
I think giving ice cubes is just temporary measure. Don't you have a place which is shaded well? or better have a fan to help circulate the air?
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i'll try to find a better place for her. it was just last night that was really hot, can even feel it this morning.
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Jun 16 2008, 01:08 PM)
As my rabbits are apartment pets, i cant always take them to the ground, so i made some renovation to their 'house'..
Daddy'd house :

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I was snapping Daddy's cage photos and suddenly he appeared to menyibuk. Daddy si penyibuk!!

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wah very nice, haha Daddy so cute pop out his head.
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Jun 16 2008, 05:40 PM)

Added on June 16, 2008, 5:40 pm
Wah.. nice setup. Lucky Bambi will be very happy..!! U have a big compound there. Mind to let us to play in your compound too?.. hehe kidding!
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lol you can try play at my compound, it's big enough for many little rabbits but i must warn you la, you better look after your rabbits cause you'll never know where it'll go to. now you see it, now you don't. haha, even for me i only got bambi, she happily run around and i have to end up looking for her. so imagine if got rabbit gathering ah, see 5-10 little rabbits hopping about and then their owners chasing after them lol.
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QUOTE(djspinnet @ Jun 16 2008, 09:28 PM)
Sprinkles seems alright for now, although the whole of yesterday she was hiding under a cabinet in the garden instead of digging, and she kept running to Proudfoot's grave (that spot is Proudfoot's favourite digging spot) although we've covered it up with loads of heavy pots so that Sprinkles doesn't dig it up.

Up till the moment Proudfoot died, we've always let Sprinkles play with Proudfoot or at least rest near Proudfoot's cage when Proudfoot's resting in it. She knew Proudfoot was going to go. And when Proudfoot died, we put her body on the ground, and Sprinkles came over to the body. This part was especially heart wrenching for me and my mom. Sprinkles came over to Proudfoot, sniffed her, and then she nuzzled Proudfoot's head lovingly, groomed the head slightly, kissed Proudfoot's forehead before bounding off...
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aww just to read that oso feels so touching. hope you all will feel better soon.
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Jun 17 2008, 12:42 PM)
KENJI > Haha.. i cant imagine if we do a rabbits gathering in a big compound and see all onwers chasing their bunnies. I cant even imagine Bebee chasing her 12 bunnies at the same time. She definately bising to kcng to help her chase tongue.gif. Sori Bebee, just joking... If there is any gathering, i wont bring my bunnies along laa.... To far... They'll get stress. But i definately go home with poeple's bunny (kidnap!). Maybe Sangterap's Holly Hope? Or maybe a cute HL from Beh's farm? Hehehe...
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QUOTE(sangterap @ Jun 17 2008, 01:14 PM)
HAHA me too. Kidnap others' before they kidnap mine....
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lol you all evil fellas. i doubt anybody can kidnap bambi haha.. i myself wanna grab her oso cannot.


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