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TSmypetridish
post Jan 11 2008, 06:26 AM, updated 18y ago

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I'm getting my 360 to output 1080p signal to my TV, but I dont see much difference between setting the system at 720p and 1080p when playing games like gears of war. Are all 360 games 720p native? Someone in MS claims that "we ccan do 1080p with just a simple syste update" bleh, what good is that if all it does is upscaling and dddall the games are natively lower res?

- my tv is a 37" with 1080p native
- using vga cable to connect (360 dash board says that it is outputting at 1080p)

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post Jan 11 2008, 08:47 AM

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most 360 games are 720p..
u wont have much luck finding 1080p games

ps3 has some.. still very few.. can count with 1 hand..
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post Jan 11 2008, 10:15 AM

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MGS4 will be 1080p.. im thinking of changing my platform sad.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 11:12 AM

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At 37", the difference between 720P and 1080P won't be readily apparent at first glance, unless you start scrutinising the screen. tongue.gif

50" and above, can start see the difference. At 80" and above, can really see the difference.
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post Jan 11 2008, 11:26 AM

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do the details play an important part for you?
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post Jan 11 2008, 12:11 PM

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yeah it does. it tickles me knowing that im not getting the best of my money..heh

but seriously though, i CAN tell the difference between high def demo videos from my pc between 1080p and 720p.. my eyes and tv are capable of ddifferentiating between the 2. im worried that 720p might ot be too great once every ps3 games go 720p native


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post Jan 11 2008, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(am_eniey @ Jan 11 2008, 11:26 AM)
do the details play an important part for you?
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It matters greatly for most next gen gamers. Thats why most of us got the LCD display that at least supports up to 1080i.
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post Jan 11 2008, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(mypetridish @ Jan 11 2008, 12:11 PM)
yeah it does. it tickles me knowing that im not getting the best of my money..heh

but seriously though, i CAN tell the difference between high def demo videos from my pc between 1080p and 720p.. my eyes and tv are capable of ddifferentiating between the 2. im worried that 720p might ot be too great once every ps3 games go 720p native
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its true.. LCD monitor that we use the pixel are so small that we can differentiate very easily 720p/1080p
but like mk84 said.. which i agree, try 720p on a LCD TV.. it wows u like u havent see before on ur LCD monitor..
i played the same game running on 720p on LCD monitor then switch to LCD tv 40" running also at 720p..
u start to see much more detail into it.. as compared to monitor
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post Jan 11 2008, 01:52 PM

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yeah, what does he know. he's probably still stuck with crt monitors

/kidding

but i want to know if the 360 is 1080p native capable...
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post Jan 11 2008, 04:04 PM

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Yup I'm stuck.... with this... tongue.gif

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There's a list somewhere of all the native resolution for XBOX360 and PS3 games.
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post Jan 11 2008, 04:37 PM

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mk84 is tht a photo frame? and where u get tht poster?
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post Jan 11 2008, 04:46 PM

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Custom printed hehehehe
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post Jan 11 2008, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Jan 11 2008, 04:04 PM)
Yup I'm stuck.... with this... tongue.gif

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There's a list somewhere of all the native resolution for XBOX360 and PS3 games.
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Wow... so small. laugh.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 04:59 PM

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heheh... how u know MK84 very "small"? tongue.gif


hehehe... 42" also small?

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post Jan 11 2008, 05:06 PM

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^ Err.... that sounds so wrong on so many levels... laugh.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 07:42 PM

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the 360 is 1080p capable, but only if the game itself support it. the few 1080p 360 games i remember are:
- Virtua Tennis 3
- NBA Street Homecourt

and of course the HD DVD add on, that does 1080p too

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post Jan 11 2008, 08:26 PM

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100hz important ah ??? if important , does the bravia x 46" has it ??? if not i wanna cancel..and go for the new samsung.. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 08:51 PM

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Pulled from another forum, console games (Xbox 360 and PS3) and their NATIVE (not upscaled) resolution:

Assassin's Creed: 1280x720p - PS3
Assassin's Creed: 1280x720p - Xbox 360
Bioshock: 1280x720p - Xbox 360
Blast Factor Demo: 1920x1080p - PS3
Call of Duty 3: 1120x630p - Xbox 360
Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare: 1024x600p (2xAA) - PS3
Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare: 1024x600p (2xAA) - Xbox 360
Conan Demo: 720x576p - Xbox 360
Def Jam ICON: 1152x648p - PS3
FIFA 08: 1280x720p - PS3
FIFA 08: 1280x720p (AA 2x) - Xbox 360
Forza Motorsport 2: 1280x720p (MSAA 2x) - Xbox 360
Full Auto 2: 1920x1080p (AA 4x, bad framerate) - PS3
Gears of War: 960x720p - Xbox 360
GranTurismo HD: 1440x1080p - PS3
GRAW 2: 1280x720p - PS3
GRAW 2: 1280x720p (AA 2x) - Xbox 360
GT5 Prologue Demo:1280x1080p - PS3 (Show Room and the Pit/Garage is full 1920x1080)
Halo 3: 1152x640p - 360
Harry Potter: 1280x720p (MSAA 2x) - PS3
Heavenly Sword: 1280x720p (AA 4x) - PS3
Jericho Demo: 840x560p - PS3
Jericho Demo: 1280x720p - Xbox 360
LocoRoco Cocoreccho: 1920x1080p (MSAA 2x) -PS3
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance: 1920x1080p - PS3
MotorStorm: 1280x720p with (MS AA 2x) - PS3 (the AA effect is little decreased because hard contrast and bloom effect)
MX vs ATV: 1024x576p - PS3
MX vs ATV: 1280x720p - Xbox 360
NBA 07: 1920x1080p - PS3
NBA 08: 1920x1080p - PS3
NBA Street: 1920x1080p (AA 4x, 30-60fps) - Xbox 360
NCAA Football 08 Demo: 1024x600p (AA 2x) - PS3
NCAA Football 08 Demo: 1024x600p (AA 2x) - Xbox 360
NCAA Football 07 Demo: 1280x720p - PS3
NCAA Football 07 Demo: 1280x720p - Xbox 360
Need For Speed Pro Street: 1280x720p (AA) - PS3
Need For Speed Pro Street: 1280x720p (MSAA 4x) - Xbox 360
Ninja Gaiden Sigma: 1280x720p - PS3
Oblivion Elder Scrolls: 1280x720p - PS3
Oblivion Elder Scrolls: 1024x600p - Xbox 360
Perfect Dark Zero: 1140x640p - Xbox 360
Pirates of Caribbean: 960x720p - PS3
Pixel Junk Racers: 1920x1080p - PS3
Project Gotham Racing 3: 1024x600p - Xbox 360
Project Gotham Racing 4: 1280x720p (MSAA 2x) - Xbox 360
Resistance: 1280x720p (MSAA 2x) - PS3
Ridge Racer 6: 1440x810p - Xbox 360
Ridge Racer 7: 1920x1080p - PS3
Skate: 1536x864p - PS3
Skate: 1280x720p (AA) - Xbox 360
Super Rub a Dub: 1600x1080p - PS3
Super Stardust HD: 1280x1080p - PS3
Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection HD: 1920x1080p - PS3
The Darkness Demo: 1024x576p - PS3
Tomb Raider: 1024x600p (MSAA 2x) - Xbox 360
Tomb Raider: 1024x600p - Xbox 360
Tony Hawk Project 8: 1040x585p AA - Xbox 360
Tony Hawk Project 8: 1280x720p - PS3
Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 1024x600p - PS3
Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 1280x720p - Xbox 360
Transformers: 960x1080p - PS3
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune: 1280x720p (AA 2x) - PS3
Virtua Figher 5: 1024x1024p (AA) - Xbox 360
Virtua Figher 5: 1024x1024p - PS3 (native resolution for the 720p, but for 1080p output is 1024x768)
Virtua Tennis 3: 1920x1080p (AA 2x) - PS3
Virtua Tennis 3: 1920x1080p (AA 2x) - Xbox 360
PlayStation XMB: 1920x1080p
Xbox 360 Dashboard: 1280x720p

Hope you'd like the list i've gathered from the web. nod.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 10:20 PM

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I don't think we'll see any great games with full 1080p on the Xbox 360, ever. If you're familiar with game resolutions on the PC, you'll know a higher res means more processing power needed on the GPU, and i think the same thing applies to the Xbox 360. See even Bungie reduced Halo 3 to 640p to increase performance(usually when ppl say performance they mean framerates). Why does games like Virtua Tennis support 1080p, thats because its just a small scene with very little things to render.
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QUOTE(ImSIEBEL @ Jan 11 2008, 08:26 PM)
100hz important ah ??? if important , does the bravia x 46" has it ??? if not i wanna cancel..and go for the new samsung.. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 12 2008, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Jan 11 2008, 04:04 PM)
Yup I'm stuck.... with this... tongue.gif

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There's a list somewhere of all the native resolution for XBOX360 and PS3 games.
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wow xbox360 look so small for the first time...
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post Jan 12 2008, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(ImSIEBEL @ Jan 12 2008, 09:54 AM)
?????????
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if X300 yeap
X200 nope
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post Jan 12 2008, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Synco @ Jan 12 2008, 11:42 AM)
if X300 yeap
X200  nope
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46x300a..
TSmypetridish
post Jan 12 2008, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Jan 11 2008, 03:04 AM)
Yup I'm stuck.... with this... tongue.gif

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There's a list somewhere of all the native resolution for XBOX360 and PS3 games.
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er.. sure. how would we know that u didnt fetch that picture off google image search?

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post Jan 12 2008, 03:53 PM

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^^ uh oh.... someone is asking for it... whistling.gif
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post Jan 12 2008, 03:56 PM

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that was an honest question. i have a comparable setup, albeit a step lower
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post Jan 12 2008, 07:40 PM

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LCDs are all over Malaysia now you know..and some of us can afford it...is not like we are still in 5th Malaysia Plan period.
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QUOTE(MK84 @ Jan 11 2008, 04:04 PM)
Yup I'm stuck.... with this... tongue.gif

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There's a list somewhere of all the native resolution for XBOX360 and PS3 games.
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time to upgrade!! laugh.gif

MK84! upgrade a bigger want la tongue.gif
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post Jan 12 2008, 10:02 PM

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i think to have res of 1080p will sacrifice the frame rate .
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post Jan 14 2008, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Jan 12 2008, 09:52 PM)
time to upgrade!! laugh.gif

MK84! upgrade a bigger want la tongue.gif
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Ish.... kenot ler. That's maximum size already for the room. I don't have the luxury of dedicated AV room. Everything throw in the living room. tongue.gif

Anyways these days can get similar setup for the price of a 40" Bravia LCD TV.
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QUOTE(MK84 @ Jan 14 2008, 10:34 AM)
Ish.... kenot ler. That's maximum size already for the room. I don't have the luxury of dedicated AV room. Everything throw in the living room. tongue.gif

Anyways these days can get similar setup for the price of a 40" Bravia LCD TV.
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Maybe you can upgrade your 720p projector to 1080p Native projector. brows.gif
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post Jan 14 2008, 01:05 PM

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got one question here...wht is the name of the cable that can use for connect lcd monitor(computer) and x360
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QUOTE(amalost @ Jan 14 2008, 01:05 PM)
got one question here...wht is the name of the cable that can use for connect lcd monitor(computer) and x360
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Xbox 360 VGA HD AV Cable.

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QUOTE(mypetridish @ Jan 12 2008, 03:41 PM)
er.. sure. how would we know that u didnt fetch that picture off google image search?

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I smell someone jealous here whistling.gif
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post Jan 14 2008, 04:59 PM

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meh... surela jealous. it's bigger than my 37" tv... what do u have?
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I've been to MK's AVmindblowing Shrine, and was awed.

Am still awed.

It's exactly as teh pictar.
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QUOTE(MK84 @ Jan 11 2008, 04:04 PM)
Yup I'm stuck.... with this... tongue.gif

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There's a list somewhere of all the native resolution for XBOX360 and PS3 games.
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aijoh if you didn't post your setup first at least i still have face to post mine... like that no need to post already hahahahaha...

OT: MK you want anything from my spare bin ah??? the av room has now been converted to an office...
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post Jan 16 2008, 09:37 AM

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Yoroi.... no budget ler bro... thanks for the offer. Now I also clearing my spare bin.
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post Jan 16 2008, 11:19 AM

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hey mk...

u can put in my av room if u wanna get bigger LCD tongue.gif


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MK, with a screen like that you're not playing COD4 MP?

Kamon MK kamon! COD4 or bust!
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QUOTE(MK84 @ Jan 16 2008, 09:37 AM)
Yoroi.... no budget ler bro... thanks for the offer. Now I also clearing my spare bin.
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you also kah??? hahahaha ok ok... pm me a list of the stuff you're selling too hehehehe
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QUOTE(ImSIEBEL @ Jan 11 2008, 08:26 PM)
100hz important ah ??? if important , does the bravia x 46" has it ??? if not i wanna cancel..and go for the new samsung.. biggrin.gif
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first time i see ppl asking this question. I dont think it's important at the moment, coz most tv IINM runs at 60hz (or was it 70hz)
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QUOTE(Shuvit @ Jan 16 2008, 07:24 PM)
MK, with a screen like that you're not playing COD4 MP?

Kamon MK kamon! COD4 or bust!
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Hahahah nanti la.... no mood for FPS right now. tongue.gif
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post Jan 18 2008, 02:25 PM

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this is a good read on native 1080p/720p games

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453&p=10

dont need to read the whole artivle, just turn to the page ive linked.
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post Jan 20 2008, 02:57 AM

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I am using 37" 1080p at the moment. Windows Vista never looked so good. Thing is, I can get Windows XP to run at 1920x1200 but Vista, stuck at 1360x768... dunno how to increase further blush.gif

1080p games are rare as a liger, but they exist and that's cool. Better get a 1080p HDTV for future-proof. Also, HD content would be sweet on it... (scared to mention hd dvd/blu-ray... sweat.gif )
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its not very important between 1080p and 720p....u see...even though the ps3
game ori resolution is up to 1080p but their detail and effect still cant compare wif the 720p only xbox 360. So its no use to know the differences....
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Jan 19 2008, 01:57 PM)
I am using 37" 1080p at the moment. Windows Vista never looked so good. Thing is, I can get Windows XP to run at 1920x1200 but Vista, stuck at 1360x768... dunno how to increase further  blush.gif

1080p games are rare as a liger, but they exist and that's cool. Better get a 1080p HDTV for future-proof. Also, HD content would be sweet on it... (scared to mention hd dvd/blu-ray...  sweat.gif )
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have u tried a newer driver? ive never tried vista but we have the same tv setup: 37" 1080p. can get full res with xp too. now that im already using a hdtv, i find those 700mb movie files (ripped from dvd) to be in adequate to my satisfaction. i only dl hd movies now, that is when i can. been purging my old collection of SD movies, they look so blocky and ugly

QUOTE(neo_lam @ Jan 19 2008, 11:31 PM)
its not very important between 1080p and 720p....u see...even though the ps3 
game ori resolution is up to 1080p but their detail and effect still cant compare wif the 720p only xbox 360. So its no use to know the differences....
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emm, well i guess that depends on the game as mentioned in the article i linked above. also it depends on the programmer to code efficiently
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post Jan 21 2008, 11:35 AM

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Either newer driver, or specify custom resolution.
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post Jan 21 2008, 12:00 PM

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what are you talking about?

 

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