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post Nov 21 2008, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Nov 21 2008, 11:30 PM)
If I send a buy order for queuing.
Then during trading time, market falls like hell. I quickly decide not to buy.
Can I cancel the queue order?
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Yes, you can cancel your queue as long as there are no matches (i.e. the "deal/transaction" did not go through and your order is still in the queue....)
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post Dec 7 2008, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Sh@rty 5 @ Dec 7 2008, 09:53 PM)
blush.gif just wanna ask bout this queuing thingy..means u tell ur broker at wat price to buy? i dun get wat this queuing thingy is all about * newbie x5 icon_question.gif
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When you want to buy stocks, you have to queue. If there is a matching seller, then you will get the stocks at the price you quoted...... smile.gif

Say a counter is priced at RM2.50 at that moment in time....

There will be people queuing at RM2.50, some higher at RM2.55 and some lower at RM 2.45 or RM2.40..... Those that queue at higher prices will usually get it first as sellers would want to sell their shares at a higher price.... if you queue very low e.g. at RM2.30, there might not be any sellers willing to sell the stock at that price, so you won't get that stock....

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QUOTE(skymei @ Dec 13 2008, 04:44 PM)
Thanks Cherroy,

How about if i have RM10,000 in my invested account and i have finished using. But there is another RM20,000 available (3Xdeposited money).
the following matched orders will straight away deducted from the RM20k automatically? and i need to deposit the money RM10,000 as soon as possible? (let say the next transaction is RM 1,000)

Correct me if i am wrong:) thx
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If you have RM10,000 in your account, you will have a RM30,000 margin to trade with. As long as the stocks that you buy does not go beyond T+3 (trading day + 3 days), you don't have to use your RM10,000 to pay with (that is, IF you make money from selling the shares within T+3). Once your shares goes past T+3, then you will have to pay that value from your RM10,000. If your shares are more that RM10,000, for example, RM15,000, then you have to deposit another RM5,000 once the shares goes past T+3.....

That's what I understand cause I don't use a margin account.... wink.gif


Haizzzz.... so boring..... 5 more days till reload.... hope still have time..... cry.gif

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Anybody knows why my brokerage fees (maybank/aseambankders) for UCHITEC is higher?

Normal rate for online trading is 0.42% or RM12 minimum.

When I bought UCHITEC, they charged me 0.60% or RM40 minimum!!! vmad.gif

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 21 2008, 08:16 AM)
Call your remisier and ask him/her to explain  wink.gif
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Ya, gonna do that on Monday..... just received the statement on Friday, didn't have time to call....

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QUOTE(Quinn @ Jan 3 2009, 06:58 PM)
i want to get started in stock market. any advise given?
what is the difference between stock market and option trading?
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I'm also new in stock trading. For me, the first thing is to have spare cash and not use your emergency funds/savings to play stocks. Secondly, try to read as much as you can regarding the company/counters you are interested in. There are many links/good info posted by our forumers in many of the threads. Another good source of information is "The Edge Magazine" which is published weekly and cost only RM5-6. There's a lot of useful infomation in there.... Lastly, stock market is risky. Be prepared to lose money.... wink.gif That's my 0.2 cents advice.... smile.gif

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QUOTE(sentro2020 @ Jan 27 2009, 12:04 PM)
may i know how to look at the prices ??

long time ago, i see the stock thing from TV when i small

its like RM8.00 = RM8k each unit
RM0.50 = rm500 each unut

if i buy rm8 5 unit means = rm8k x 5= rm40k

If the stock price increase to rm45k n i sell, mean i earn rm5k

am i right ?
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The prices reflect the value of each share. If the price is stated as RM8, it means each share is RM8.

Most of the time, people buy shares in lots, as it is easier to handle. Last time, 1 lot = 1000 shares. Nowadays, 1 lot is generally equal to 100 shares.

So, if the price is RM8 and you bought 100 shares (1 lot), you have to pay RM800:

RM8 x 100 shares (1 lot) = RM800

If the share price then increases to RM9, your profit is RM 100:

RM9 x 100 shares (that you hold) = RM900

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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Aug 4 2009, 11:52 PM)
errmmm ..please do help some noob question..

option 1 : buy counter A ..price go up then keep..then later average up
option 2 : buy counter A.. price go up..lock profit..then buy back the share at lower price(may miss the boat or end up in wrong boat).

which option is better? or is there better strategy?
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I don't think anybody can answer you as there is no best or better strategy. It all depends on market trends and especially on your own expectation.

Option 1 - good strategy if the stock price keeps on going up
Option 2 - if the stock is volatile with lots of ups and down

In the end, nobody knows the future and either option can be a good or bad choice (on hindsight!)..... smile.gif
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QUOTE(aiko_18 @ Aug 20 2009, 10:26 PM)
newbie here.i wanna ask where can i download the maybank2u live quote?
i was told my account is activated and i logged in.I follow the instruction which i have to click on the live quote bar however my page doesnt have any live quote but only user guide to click on. Pro, what is my problem?
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Did you install the CAB files? When I first logged into maybank2u, I had no problems getting the live quote. Maybe ask your remisier?
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QUOTE(Swordxend @ Aug 30 2009, 08:12 PM)
I would like to know how many unit is minimum unit for trading of stock or share? for example stock A price is RM2.30.. could I buy 100 stock by RM230 or must buy at least RM2300 for 1000 units of stock??
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On KLSE, for trading normal shares, minimum is 1 lot = 100 units. So, in your case, you have to buy 100 units of shares = RM230.

There are the odd units but I don't know about those..... wink.gif
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QUOTE(ss_izal @ Jan 31 2010, 03:17 AM)
basic question here
kochin mentioned about MAS - WA, MAS - CA, what does this denotes means? googled the denotes out but no result so does search result in lyn, to short. LOL
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Those are call warrants. You can check out the simple basic guide on warrants here (Post #6): http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1039913

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QUOTE(gsutharison @ May 31 2010, 07:53 PM)
Hi Guys,
I have opened an account in M2U Online Stock Trading. Attached is the screen of my interface. Can anyone able to teach me what to see 1st in the interface before buying and selling a stock? I really can't understand all the numbers over there. Some said we can't simply buy cause we can only buy the amount of stock others are selling. Even if you want buy, we must wait till someone sell their stock is it?
Just teach me the simplest way, and I will learn from there. I just need to know how the flow works.

I'll be most grateful if any of you could teach me a simple calculation in buying/selling stock from the interface that I have attached..

P.S. Many thanks to Kmarc
[attachmentid=1602890]
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From your screen, you have to know a few terms. Take for example the stock "Axiata".

B-Q = Buy Queue = 10934 lots
--- this means that people are queuing to buy (a total of 10934 lots)
--- At what price? At RM3.76 (see "Buy" column)
--- If you put in an order to buy at RM3.76, say 25 lots, then the total B-Q = 10934 + 25 = 10959

S-Q = Sell Queue = 433 lots
--- this means that people are queuing to sell
--- At what price? At RM3.77 (see "Sell" column)

Can you buy "Axiata" stocks immediate at that time? Yes, instead of waiting to queue to buy at RM3.76, you can buy straight away at RM3.77 as people have queued to sell at that price.
- say you put in an order to buy 30 lots at RM3.77
- the transaction will go through as there are people waiting to sell at that price
- Once the transaction is done, the S-Q = 433 - 30 = 403 lots left waiting to be sold

You can see the queue in more detail by double clicking on "Axiata" and then select this icon to see more:

Attached Image

Note : 1 lot = 100 shares

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QUOTE(gsutharison @ Jun 1 2010, 05:00 PM)
Hi Kmarc,
Thanks for your reply.

Using the examples above;
1. People are selling Axiata for RM3.77. And I want to buy for the price RM3.76. So when someone sells their stock for RM3.76, the first guy who request for RM3.76 will successful in the bid is it?

2. Let's say I wanna sell my stock of Axiata of 50 lots. So the S-Q = 433+50=483. Am I right? So my stock will be in the S-Q till someone buys my stock right? So until someone buys it, I won't get my money is it?

3. I just tried in Online Stock Game. It's simulator. I tried buying stocks. But then the status is showing 'Unable to Detect Dealer'. What does it means? Is it how it works? Or must I contact Maybank? (Attached below are the interface)

[attachmentid=1604674]
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1) Yes, you have to wait for your queue. It is something like standing in-line to buy your shares at RM3.76. You can only buy it when you turn comes.
- alternatively, as mentioned above, if you don't want to wait to buy, you can key-in to buy at RM3.77. As there are nobody waiting in-line to buy at RM3.77, your transaction will take place almost immediately.

2) That is correct. You have to wait your turn at RM3.77.
- Another example, if one guy straight away key in RM3.77 to buy 500 lots, he will have snapped up all the 483 lots (in the S-Q column at RM3.77), leaving 17 lots left not bought in the RM3.77 B-Q column.
- If you are successful in selling your stocks, you will only get your money after T+3 (same as buying)

3) Errmm... not too sure about that as I never tried the game. wink.gif

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QUOTE(gsutharison @ Jun 3 2010, 03:51 AM)
Hi Kmarc,
Thanks for your reply. Sorry for troubling you again.
1. In your previous answer for 'Question 2', you mentioned "you will only get your money after T+3 (same as buying)". I don't really get you on that.
Let's say my Trading Account has RM2000.00 and I want to buy stocks for RM1400.00, once I bought the stock they will deduct the amount from my account right(RM2000-RM1400=Balance RM600)? And once I sell the stock for RM1450, they will top-up my account right(RM600+RM1450=RM2050)? hmm.gif  >>>I can check the debit and credit update after few minutes in my account right?
*i didn't include brokerage fee, contract stamp and clearing fees; above calculation is just for example!

or

Once i buy the stock, they will deduct the money on the 3rd working day, and when I have successfully sold the stock, they will bank-in the money on the 3rd working day is it? hmm.gif

The 2nd example is the correct one. T+3 meaning your transaction will only be reflected after 3 working days. You won't see any changes in your accounts if you check after a few minutes, a few hours or day 1 or day 2. wink.gif If you buy a stock, money will be deducted after 3 working days. If you sold a stock, money will be banked-in after 3 working days.

2. I read your article about T+3 in "LYN stock market FAQs & Guide" but don't really get it. blink.gif
T+3 system works when we want to buy stocks amount 3xhigher than the money value we currently have in our account right? Let's say I have enough cash to buy the stock, T+3 won't work right? hmm.gif

or

T+3 means what ever transactions we do, they will deduct(buying) and cash-in(selling) after 3 working days is it? hmm.gif


Again, the 2nd answer is the correct one. T+3 nothing to do with 3x higher than the value. T+3 means after "T"ransaction day + 3 working days. smile.gif


3. (>>>If you know) How much is the BROKERAGE FEES in Maybank? From my findings from other forums, they mentioned minimum is RM 28 through online and RM40 through remeiser (or 0.700%; which ever is higher). Is it correct?icon_question.gif
Hope you can clear my doubts![/b]

At the moment, there is a promotion from maybank. RM8 for brokerage fees for online trading. Intraday contra is cheaper but I can't remember how much. Calling remisier is still the standard RM40. Maybank will still charge you the full rate but will rebate some money on the 10th of every month under "stock incentive" statement. Not too sure how long the promotion is going to last as maybank keep on extending the promotion since Sept 2008


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Answered above in blue. wink.gif

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QUOTE(gsutharison @ Jun 7 2010, 04:45 PM)
Hi Kmarc,
I have a question here, hope you can answer it.

According to the attachment below, the sell value in S-Q is 0.140, so at the current moment i can only buy the stock for 0.140 only is it? I can't buy for 0.135 or 0.130 is it? Because I can see the amount in "Buy vs Sell" option too but once when I want to buy that amount, the transactions in not going through. Attached below is the Buy vs Sell value.
[attachmentid=1614881]
Thanks & Regards,
Sutharison

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Errrmmm... there's nobody queing up to sell at 0.135 or 0.130 ma.... how to buy?

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QUOTE(gsutharison @ Jun 7 2010, 09:51 PM)
Hi Kmarc,
Aiyaa, sorry ya. I've been confused all this while. Let's say Guy A sell his stock lot of 100, Guy B is 50, Guy C is 100 and Guy D is 50.

1. If I wanna buy 200 lots, will it be
100 lots from Guy A and 100 lots from Guy C?

or

100 lots from Guy A, 50 lots from Guy B and 50 lots from Guy C?
2. According to the attachment below, in the highlighted line, under 'Vol', 600 is the lot of shares people have sell is it?

[attachmentid=1615379]
Thanks & Regards,
Sutharison



Added on June 7, 2010, 9:54 pm

Hi Smartly,
Thanks a lot for your answer. I guess, I should always check if anyone selling for lower price.

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1) Errmm.. why are you concern from where you bought the shares from? hmm.gif To answer your question, it is as explained earlier. You trade by Q. Assuming that A (100 lots) queue first, then B (50 lots), then C (100 lots) then D (50 lots), if you bought the shares from their Q by 200 lots, you would have bought 100 lots from A, 50 lots from B and 50 lots from C. This is done automatically and does not need any effort from your part. C would have 50 lots left to sell. If another guy comes to buy 10 lots from that Q, it would be from C's 50 lots (as C is now at the front of the Q because A and B already sold their shares), 50-10 = 40 lots left from C. Remember that we're talking about people queueing up to sell at a certain price point.

2) Haha, that's the transaction that was done. In that picture, 600 lots were sold at 0.415 at 4:50:05 pm. Red colour for sold, green colour for bought. wink.gif

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