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Irzani
post Nov 14 2008, 02:57 PM

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Nowadays I just realised some investors are only rely on the dividend counter as their income, my question is, does it mean for every quarter there will be a dividend? or it only paid once per year? Assume that this is a good counter like TM, or Digi or Maybank or whatever it is .. hmm.gif . How the dividend distributed? 3 month? 6 month? or more than a year?
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post Nov 14 2008, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Nov 14 2008, 03:12 PM)
The answer will be as good as the question. tongue.gif 
It all down to management of the company. Some give quarterly, some half yearly and some yearly. Unless stated in their dividend policy, else board of director is free to declare or change dividend distribution in the company's benefit (except final dividend which required to be voted pass during AGM).
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So, whenever there's a news like "Quarterly rpt on consolidated results for the financial period ended xx/x/2008" and it stated "Proposed/Declared dividend per share (sen) - "Rm xx.xx", does it mean the investor will receive money for that quarter? Is it possible to get dividend for 4 times a year?
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post Nov 14 2008, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 14 2008, 03:32 PM)
Yes, if they proposed it.

Normally and majority opt for 2 times per financial year, one interim one final.
Only a few give quarterly.
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Owh, 2 times only .. I thought every quarter .. whistling.gif

Look like next time I should consider to play dividend counter if so lazy to monitor the price or choosing a good counter for short term ..

TQ for the info notworthy.gif
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post Nov 14 2008, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 14 2008, 05:44 PM)
As long as you have the share before ex-date of the dividend, then you are entitled for it. Be it buy just before the ex-date or 3 months ago.
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3 months? hmm.gif

Okies, how about this example :

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EX-date : 26/11/2008 
Entitlement date : 28/11/2008 
Entitlement time : 05:00:00 PM 
Entitlement subject : Others
Entitlement description : Share split involving the subdivision of each of the ordinary shares of RM1.00 each in Formosa Prosonic Industries Berhad (“FPIB”) held after the bonus issue into 2 ordinary shares of RM0.50 each in FPIB (“Subdivided Shares”)



Payment date  : 
a. Securities transferred into the Depositor's Securities Account before 4:00 pm in respect of transfers
: 28/11/2008
b. Securities deposited into the Depositor's Securities Account before 12:30 pm in respect of securities exempted from mandatory deposit

c. Securities bought on the Exchange on a cum entitlement basis according to the Rules of the Exchange.

Number of new shares/securities issued (units) (If applicable)

Entitlement indicator : Ratio
Ratio  : 2 : 1 
Rights Issues/Offer Price  :



Remarks :
In accordance with the Listing Requirements of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad, the date of listing of and quotation for the Subdivided Shares will be on 1 December 2008, being the next market day after the entitlement date.

FPIB’s Registrar will issue and despatch notices of allotment to the entitled shareholders by 5 December 2008.
Can you give a little summary about this and how to read it?

P/s: Noob here ..

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post Nov 14 2008, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Nov 14 2008, 11:05 PM)
Means if you hold through 28/11/08 (sell after the date), you will entitle for the split share (1 share become 2 share, your ordinary share remains and they will issue you with another share, but the PAR value halved). You can sell your share immediately after the ex-date (only the ordinary one, split one need to wait a bit to be safe.

Example:
ordinary holding: 1,000 share of RM1.00 PAR value.
on 29/11/08
ordinary holding become 1,000 share of RM0.50 PAR value
+ split share of 1,000 share of RM0.50 PAR value

Hope I make it clear. tongue.gif
Please correct me if I am wrong. biggrin.gif
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So, if 1 shares split into two. Isn't that it's still the same value in price?

Example:

1 lot= 1000 shares = Rm 1

After entitlement :

Split 1 share to become two share but par value half : 2 shares : (1000+1000) = 2000 share = Rm 1

Like that? Or I'm too noob here .. tongue.gif

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post Nov 14 2008, 11:25 PM

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Owh, the important one is the premium, if no premium, there's no profit right? nod.gif
Irzani
post Nov 15 2008, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(LalaMui @ Nov 15 2008, 03:52 AM)
Gucci... singaporean underage... well... everything else is history.

i carry more than $20k to bank-in every monday in plastic bag. once ive ever carry bout $70k oso in plastic bag oni.
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Woo .. tq, now I already understand about entitlement notice of split shares, next time will be divident reading for newbies ... tongue.gif~
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post Nov 17 2008, 03:17 AM

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The last time I give a question about share split from entitlement. Now, just find the right one example for the dividend ..

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MELEWAR INDUSTRIAL GROUP BERHAD

EX-date : 11/12/2008 
Entitlement date : 15/12/2008 
Entitlement time : 05:00:00 PM 
Entitlement subject : First and Final Dividend
Entitlement description : First and Final Dividend of 4% less 25% Tax


Payment date  : 30/12/2008
a. Securities transferred into the Depositor's Securities Account before 4:00 pm in respect of transfers
: 15/12/2008
b. Securities deposited into the Depositor's Securities Account before 12:30 pm in respect of securities exempted from mandatory deposit

c. Securities bought on the Exchange on a cum entitlement basis according to the Rules of the Exchange.

Entitlement indicator : Percentage
Entitlement in percentage (%) : 4
Is this the right step?

1) Buy shares from Melewar before closing time 5 pm by or before 11/12/2008.
2) Keep the shares until 15/12/2008.
3) By 9 a.m, 16/12/2008, the shares already can be sell.
3) Get your payment by 30/12/2008.

Like this? Or I'm wrong? Hehehe .. very naive .. tongue.gif

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post Nov 20 2008, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 17 2008, 08:59 AM)
1) Buy before 11/12 meaning last transaction should be before 10/12 5pm. On 11/12 trading day, the counter would already be adjusted.

2) No need to keep until 15/12. You can sell on the 11/12 which is the ex-date after the counter adjusted.

3) -

4) Profit!
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Thanks, this help a lot, playing dividends stock look profitable too in short terms .. smile.gif
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post Dec 4 2008, 02:02 AM

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If:

EX-date : 26/12/2008
Entitlement date : 31/12/2008
Entitlement time : 05:00:00 PM

If I bought on 28/12/2008, will it count for the dividend?
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post Dec 4 2008, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 4 2008, 09:18 AM)
To add a point, a simplicity way,
you must buy before ex-date to entitle the dividend, ie the last date you should buy (to entitle the dividend) is 25/12/2008
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Thanks Mr Cherroy, anyway what is the point to put the Entitlement date : 31/12/2008? Knowledge .. knowledge .. thumbup.gif

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post Dec 5 2008, 11:04 PM

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Since this thread has been pinned, isn't that TS can compile all the question here and make it FAQ .. brows.gif
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post Dec 10 2008, 08:49 AM

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My ex-date dividend date is today .. so, when can I start sell the stock again? hmm.gif

EX-date : 10/12/2008
Entitlement date : 12/12/2008
Entitlement time : 05:00:00 PM

P/s: First timer play dividend .. sweat.gif

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post Dec 11 2008, 03:11 AM

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Since this is beginner topic .. sometimes, I've been wondered something like this ....

Price right now : 1.02

Buy :

1) 1.00 - 10
2) 0.99 - 10
3) 0.98 - 10

Sell :

1) 1.03 - 10
2) 1.04 - 10
3) 1.05 - 10


what will be happen if :

Some crazy rich people put 1 million

1) 10000 lot at 0.80 for buy .
2) 10000 lot at 1.10 for sell.


Is there any effect? hmm.gif .

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post Dec 12 2008, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Dec 12 2008, 12:39 PM)
RM0.20 is the par value of the stock
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Par value means? hmm.gif
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post Jan 9 2009, 07:12 PM

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Last time I bought shares A by 3 December 2008:

Ex-Entitlement : 5 December 2008
Lodgement Date : 7 December 2008
Payment Date : 9 January 2009


My question is when will I get the money? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

TQ
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post Jan 9 2009, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 9 2009, 07:26 PM)
Payment Date : 9 January 2009
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So, today already 9 January, the payment should be sent in what way? Cheque? Bank In? Collect at remisier? Don't have any news about this .. sweat.gif
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post Jan 10 2009, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 10 2009, 10:10 AM)
They will send out the cheque on 9 Jan by post. So it takes a few days to reach into your hand.
For nominee account, it depends on the efficiency of the investment house.
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Thanks, I already nervous since this is my first time in playing dividend stocks .. . Anyway, what does it mean by nominee account and the dividend given? Got 2 account of trading? Nominee and ? hmm.gif
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post Jan 10 2009, 05:31 PM

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Wuu .. I'm open an account to use CIMB ITrade, that means I'm in nominee account? According to iklatmy blog, they are going to charge for the dividends .. sweat.gif

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Now you understand why so many investors complained that they are not receiving annual reports,dividends ,rights issue form etc from the investee companies.It is because the CDS account opened is a Nominee CDS account and all letters are sent to the PO's office.PO charged a service fee for handling the rights issue,dividend etc.

POs charge you a service fee for all dividends received and paper works done such as accepting rights issue or other corporate exercise that involve filling up of forms.

- Iklatmy blog-
Now, there's a third party behind and the payment will be delay and got hidden charge? hmm.gif

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post Feb 10 2009, 02:36 AM

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Hi all, got a question here :

I'm using ITrade to play shares, my question is :

EG:

If I already own shares A by 1000 shares at 1.00, can in the same day I quote the same stocks A:

Sell : 1000 shares at 1.10
Buy : 2000 shares at 0.90


Thank you nod.gif



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